Joe Rogan Experience #2484 - David Cross
In a Nutshell
Joe Rogan and David Cross reminisce about comedy legends like Art Bell, Phil Hendrie, Barry Crimmins, and Boston's '80s scene traps (local fame, golf, family mortgages stalling national careers), Cross's NewsRadio break, and personal histories from hippie SF to Ali's cultural impact. They pivot to modern perils: AI deepfakes, sentient AGI risks (Mythos exploits, nuclear war games), robot warfare detecting heartbeats miles away, and Middle East escalations without strategy. Cross plugs his new YouTube special *The End of the Beginning*, forged via stage-testing in Brooklyn, reaffirming standup as comedy's irreplaceable core amid pandemic hiatuses.
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Joe Rogan and David Cross reunite after a long time, possibly post-News Radio. They hung out during News Radio appearances. Cross had more hair then; Rogan was fighting to keep his. Rogan is bald except for a failed hair transplant he jokes about: "having a hair transplant is like taking people that are healthy and moving them into a neighborhood where everyone's dying. Where did Bob go? He just flew off the face of the earth."
Cross accepts baldness: better than barbers' boring stories while held hostage with scissors. Rogan dislikes shaving, looks like a turtle without beard, keeps it for attractiveness since he "jerk[s] off to [himself] all the time." Goes to a barber nearby for quick service but endures chit-chat with one talkative guy using a straight razor, forcing politeness.
Beards convey distinction, experience, or homeless alcoholic vibe. Rogan's full white beard is a statement; Cross's is laziness—avoids shaving, gains weight in stomach and neck on thin frame. Lets it grow 6-7 weeks then shaves as hair grows out like a clown. Friend Asan (Indian comedian, ex-doorman at Comedy Store, from LA) shaves head but lets sides grow goofy for stage joke, embraces it despite bald top, still gets laid because funny.
Cross shows photo resembling Art Bell ("From the Kingdom of Night"). Rogan loved Coast to Coast AM, listened driving home from Hollywood Valley nights. Cross did bit on successor George Noory. In Prey video game (underrated, set on '90s reservation bar invaded by aliens), TV plays staticky Art Bell discussing aliens as character approaches—cool detail.
Art treated guests with respect despite insane claims (e.g., ocean community, contradictory theories). Never rude, gave airtime: "Art, I'm a werewolf. Interesting. Tell me more." Featured Bigfoot, aliens, ex-military whistleblowers (e.g., stationed off Singapore witnessing unbelievable events). Had time traveler caller line for those from other times now in present; remote viewers claimed CIA breached time travel via wormholes in 1960s quantum dynamics.
Both love Phil Hendrie, super genius. Best were callers not getting his characters, getting upset. Took time to realize he voiced all (no cross-talk). Saw live: three mics (two regular, one old cradle phone). Did HOA woman (Marjorie?), caller seamlessly, strategic breaths for switches/interruptions—magic act.
Charity CD: high caller dials station thinking Pizza Hut. Hendrie voices woman (black "honey" character), automated system, himself: upsells 16-inch deep pan thick crust (puff? cheese balls? buffalo wings?), cheese options (blue, Swiss, cheddar, monster), transfers. Caller orders delivery at La Cienega/Venice; more automation (press for cheese/meatball/sausage). Ends with fish pizza, caller rejects. Real unscheduled call.
Met Hendrie briefly at Aspen Comedy Festival live show long ago; panel with Bob Odenkirk, Doug Stanhope, Adam Carolla (Canada? Montreal Comedy Festival ~2001) on TV pilot process (his sitcom never happened). Nicer than expected, not insane despite nightly pranks. Exhausting mentally like improv remembering details across characters.
TJ Jagodowski and Dave Pasquesi (Chicago kings), tour improvised shows with cult following (NY sells out instantly). Two shows needed for wildly different results. Start casual ("How's it going? You in line?"), build to DMV/room outside, introduce kid/wife via exits/returns, wraps as big story. Seen 30-40 times; some funnier/poignant than scripted plays. Tim Meadows (SNL, Second City) guest once: most terrifying due to genius detail recall. If character claims marine biologist, must know subject to sustain.
Ranting like Tim Dillon (solo podcasts) or old AM solo hosts (3-4 hours, 4-5x/week) builds muscle for content production. Cross listened to crazy right-wing shows (Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh) out of curiosity, never knew such people. Balanced by Art Bell/Phil Hendrie.
Originated confrontational TV like Morton Downey Jr. Low-budget cable access: audience hoots, guests (some fakers embodying stereotypes to provoke) kicked off mid-talk ("Get the fuck out of here!"). Rebecca De Mornay's dad (Risky Business). Married ~10 times, 6+ kids.
Fleetwood Mac guy (182?) marrying 5th time baffling. People believe "this is the one." Rogan married 17 years (14 in October?); Cross 2017? (6 years in area?). Both: divorce ends it—no more kids, no legal binding needed, just hang out. Met right person eventually. Give 3 marriages (one fishy); 4-6th (Rupert Murdoch) pointless—what's wrong with participants?
Local woman: married/divorced twice, now third in 6 years—red flag unless hot/sex great ("men are dumb"). Exes might lie/blame her; pattern suggests messed-up partners. Don't get married without kids.
David Cross stays in his marriage for the sake of his kid despite no major issues with his wife. Joe Rogan agrees divorce fucks kids up. Rogan’s parents split when he was five, mother remarried when he was seven, and they’ve had a great relationship ever since; he just saw them this weekend. Rogan grew up in Florida. Cross was born in New Jersey, moved to San Francisco at seven, lived there from 7 to 11 during the height of the Vietnam War in a hippie town, then Florida from 11 to 13.
Florida was the opposite of San Francisco. First time Cross heard the n-word and had to ask his mom what it meant; never heard it in San Francisco. San Francisco in the 1970s between ages 7 and 11 was a wild amazing time in the counterculture movement, Berkeley, lived right down the street from Lombard Street. Vietnam War ended around 1974-1975 (US withdrawal 1973, officially April 30, 1975). Cross remembers thinking as a kid, thank god they figured out war is bad, we’re never going to do this again. His stepfather didn’t get drafted, got lucky; a family friend moved to Canada to avoid the war. Concept of draft and conscription terrifying for a kid from a broken home.
Stepdad was a computer programmer who wanted to become an architect, went to school in San Francisco, University of Florida in Gainesville, then Boston Architectural Center, so they moved to Boston when Cross was 13. Parents were hippies, not into sports. Muhammad Ali became a counterculture hero for opposing Vietnam War. Parents watched Muhammad Ali vs. Leon Spinks (rematch where Ali won back title) rooting for Ali despite hating violence and boxing. Ali was a strategist, but by then had slowed down considerably.
He was a God, you want to talk about a unique human being, like a one-of-one.
Seen When We Were Kings, amazing documentary. No figure like Ali in boxing outside Mike Tyson. Sugar Ray Leonard a little but not to that extent; Ali represented something during civil rights movement, changed name to Muhammad Ali when people were terrified of Muslims. Government portrayed black urban people as potentially Muslim Brotherhood or Black Israelites/12 Tribes, still around, used to preach in Times Square.
Cross hung out with Black Israelites in New York, wrote a piece for his website. They had microphone and speaker, read Bible with bizarre translation: everybody was black, George Washington was black, "so-called Jews" were black Israelites, 12th tribe written out of history. Told Cross he’s not white (he’s Italian), so they didn’t hate him. Dressed like superheroes in Avenger costumes, huge medallions. Seen recently in Philadelphia and Times Square periphery.
Cross moved to New York in 1991, started standup in 1988 in Boston. Picked up by manager Jeff Susman (still with him, handles Kevin James) as an open micer. Susman managed Bob Nelson (Rodney Dangerfield special, crazy costumes, Cleveland Browns helmet, boxing gloves, Jippy Jeff’s gym, brain damage characters, HBO special). Nelson found Jesus, prayer partner was to take over management. Susman scouted Boston, came with Governors owner, saw Cross at Duck Soup (later became Improv, Paul Barkley/Billy D’s). Cross was limo driver doing airport pickups in town cars, came up with joke idea while driving, got guest spot, killed unknowingly in front of Susman. Next night at Comedy Connection, then auditioned in New York, moved three years later.
Moved to LA in 1993-1994. Did Fox pilot Hardball (baseball sitcom with Jim Breuer), cancelled, terrible. Stayed because of year lease, got NBC development deal. Replaced Ray Romano (fired after pilot, then another guy fired; Romano luckily did Everybody Loves Raymond). No acting experience, stumbled into show. Fun set, multi-cam sitcom easiest job: Thursday full day, Friday half, Monday table read. First season 12-14 hour days, later looser. Had acting coach in New York for Fox pilot ($150k), counterintuitive.
Delivering sitcom lines is instinct, not needing acting teacher like Daniel Day-Lewis. Worked because Cross never wanted acting, no pressure, just crazy fun. Getting passed at Comedy Store after six years bigger than sitcom; wondered if career would work out. Sitcoms not glamorous, just driving to work. Being on TV weird, zero acting aspirations. Dreamed with Fitzsimmons of paying bills telling jokes. Saw DJ Hazard, Don Gavin, Steve Sweeney paying bills with jokes in loft apartments.
Bill D’s (Downs) owed everyone money ($300-500), big guy, “I’ll pay you soon.” Adopted Korean girls, used as excuses (“one of my kids is sick”). Fitzsimmons owed $1500-1800. Greg borrowed Bill’s Rolex at New Hampshire club gig: “Forgot my watch, don’t want to go over.” Parked strategically, did set, bolted, called later: “Want it back? Give me $1800.” Met at diner, public place, exchanged.
Nick’s offered cocaine or cash. Boston comedy boom, spots needed bodies for cash under-table gigs (15-20 min at cowboy bars in Fitchburg). Week at Nick’s opening for Kevin Knox (tracksuit), bombed with his crowd. Knox joke: “Why didn’t Bill Buckner catch the ball in ’86 World Series? Heard it had AIDS.” (AIDS = Adios Infected Dick Sucker). Cross titled album track “What if Baseballs Had AIDS?” Peeling back time, intimidating mobby crowd. To get paid, interrupted Dominic’s manicotti dinner (napkins in shirt), Paulie took to office safe with cash and gun open. “Count it?” “No, I trust you,” bolted, never returned. Maniacal time: three rooms running, Don Gavin/Steve Sweeney doing multiple sets, raking money, doing blow, not paying taxes.
Comics could go down 128 to do callons, hop back to Chinese restaurants, go in straight lines back and forth, do nine shows and make a ton of money cash under the table with tons of blow. Boston wasn't a big city but had so much comedy. Recommend France Alamita's documentary Standup Standout, which goes back to Crims and the Ding-Ho. David Cross started in '88, after Ding-Ho was gone, but heard legendary stories. Recommend Call Me Lucky, Bobcat Goldthwait's documentary about Barry Crimmins.
Barry Crimmins was intimidating, set the standard with no hacks, equitable, politically active, knowledgeable about the world. His State of the Union shows at old Stitches during actual State of the Union were amazing: solo with a screen (pre-PowerPoint), big cooler of beer, podium, cracking and downing beers while doing prepared bits on the State of the Union. Packed with comics like Dennis Leary standing against walls. Barry responsible for much of Boston comedy, started Ding-Ho. Becoming friends with him was a relief; young comics feared his judgment.
Barry went on stage in sport coat, pulled Budweiser from inner pocket for every show, only drank American beer, brought his own. Even legends like Lenny Clarke, Don Gavin, Steve Sweeney walked on eggshells around him, gave each other mean shit but wouldn't fuck with Barry. Barry well-read on economics, world workings, injustices, great jokes, writer, standard and glue of the scene.
Barry revealed childhood abuse, spoke in front of Congress about AOL chat rooms where predators found children and exchanged porn. Dedicated life to catching predators, posing as kids. Lapsed Catholic focused on exposing Catholic Church scandals in Boston. Levels above other comedians in understanding, articulation, dedication to comedy integrity. From jock world: minor league catcher, Syracuse University, Cape Cod League; catchers smartest on team, make pitch calls, see everything, defensive lineups; hard-drinking background gave cred.
Boston unusual: local legends never left, did same act for decades. Catch a Rising Star and Catch scene lacked joy. Comics drove drunk guys who did half-hour after 15-minute openers. Mike Donovan's bit about Rosie the Bounty Quicker Picker Upper (feisty diner waitress mascot from commercials): taking gun out and shooting her; funny first time but ran 10 years after off air.
Ed the Machine Regie: headshot four squares with characters (Tina Turner, mob guy, turban); went to jail 1.5 years for rolling back odometers as Rhode Island car salesman. Decades later headlining cruise ship comedy while David shot movie there; did 40 minutes same act from 15 years prior, no prison material despite time inside.
Traps: never leaving Boston (act cut 40% outside due to local material), provincial working-class attitude resenting success ("sellout", jealousy). All mad at Steven Wright for leaving, doing Tonight Show (scouts came to Boston, chose him over others who called him middle act who bombed half the time). Wright's abstract, lowkey, non-sequitur act like Mitch Hedberg's: needed right audience (e.g., Hedberg story of Ohio club disaster with flip-opening act, switched to middle, then killed).
Boston comics big energy vs. Wright; local bits like fire hydrant factory. High local pay (couple hundred thousand/year cash, golf all day). Golf slippery slope: 8 hours/day stops comedy effort (e.g., Noxy). Never leaving meant no national audience, couldn't road; half act local (Storrow Drive, Johnny Most bit long after dead, 20 people laugh, others confused). Velvet prison like writer's room jobs trapping comics without road/specials/audience, beholden to employers.
Mortgage/family trap. Owen Smith top 20 best comics, brilliant: Comedy Store set, bit adopting white kid naming him n-word; great writer/performer. Writer gigs led to house/showrunner but does Mothership 1-2x/year. Knows but stuck with money/responsibility.
Fewer shows now (20% of '90s). Pitched show with Bob Odenkirk, sold to best bidder of 8 (4 bid); wrote 4 episodes of 8-episode limited series + Bible/outlines; funny on page with cast (Bob/David as cult leaders). Marketing/analytics couldn't figure it out, killed despite quality. Rare when starts funny on page, improves with cast/set/post.
Analytics/algorithm-driven; unimpressive executives decide shows ("how did you get this job?"). Early pilots: Hardball funny pilot by Jeff Martin/Kevin Curran (Simpsons/Married with Children), ruined by Coach showrunner into clunky bad jokes. Execs no creative ideas, just ego/hoping it works ("we're Fox").
NewsRadio: Paul Simms from Larry Sanders (huge success), brilliant, great writers/pilot, recast one role. Paul let everyone do anything; Dave Foley secret producer (half scenes/jokes from on-set script runs). They'd check as-written then approve better ideas. Rare; David done after. Hell is successful terrible sitcom (daily suck despite pay). Trap like nice house/car but shitty Studio City drive, craft services, repeat; reward with bigger TV/new car.
David buys expensive baseball card boxes on good paydays (legit baseball street cred, investment/gambling like scratch-offs chasing 1/1s, opening packs).
David Cross buys hobby boxes of trading cards, which are more expensive but offer better chances for auto rookie cards, relic cards, or similar high-value items. These are investments since they can always be sold. He started collecting 30-40 years ago, around 1989 or early 90s. The money invested has not appreciated much—if he sold everything now, it would be about half what he put in—but he enjoys having them and has no intention of selling.
Joe Rogan compares this to his own poverty days collecting comic books, which became investments later. His saddest moment was selling his collection, including old Spider-Man and Incredible Hulk comics in plastic sleeves, stored carefully. Collected since childhood, now probably worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Rogan wanted to be a comic book illustrator as a kid. He was good at drawing as a teenager but quit in his last year of high school due to a terrible, miserable art teacher who said, "You're not going to get that job. You can't just draw what you want." The teacher was a thin man with a big pot belly, likely an unhappy drunk.
Cross references Art School Confidential by Daniel Clowes (creator of 8-Ball, Ghost World—adapted to film—and Wilson—also filmed). Clowes satirizes shitty art school teachers. Rogan quit art because of this teacher. Recently reconnected with classmate John Dvor (best artist in class, along with Rogan third-best and Kevin), who got an F from the teacher despite being brilliant. The teacher hated potential and talented students like John, who didn't become an artist. Bad teachers crush talent, dreams, and aspirations; good teachers change lives.
Inspirational Science Teacher
Rogan's middle school science teacher (grizzled Vietnam vet, brilliant) at age 13 introduced the concept of infinity and the infinite universe: "Sit here and comprehend the concept of infinity, that the universe is infinite, that there is no end. Hurt your head, lie in bed at night, and think about how it goes on and on." This birthed Rogan's lifelong fascination with space, cosmology, and space travel. At 13, such concepts stick deeply before they're dismissed.
The art teacher likely had a life that didn't turn out as hoped and wanted to squash talented kids' hopes.
From age 6-7 in San Francisco, Rogan collected comics. References Robert Crumb and counterculture comics, Creepy and Eerie comic books.
Cross's uncle (who later went insane) had a huge collection of EC Comics (early MAD magazine, etc.). At age 8, Cross wanted them for their creepy, scary appeal—not as investment. His grandmother threw them away, likely worth quarter of a million dollars now. Loves old black-and-white, deeply illustrated, super creepy ones like Weird Science, Tales from the Crypt, Vault of Horror. Loves the Crypt Keeper.
Compares to Twilight Zone blowing kids' minds. Early episodes had genius, creative premises stolen repeatedly. Examples:
- William Shatner in diner with fortune-telling machine where fortunes come true.
- Burgess Meredith wants to be alone with books post-nuclear bomb, then breaks glasses.
- The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street: Suburban street blackout leads neighbors to suspicion, accusations, guns; aliens in flying saucer observe: "They'll kill themselves street by street." Ahead of its time on divide and conquer. Premiered October 2, 1959.
- To Serve Man: "It's a cookbook."
Almost no duds; all brilliant even today. Completely original—rich field of premises. One dud Rogan recalls: Extreme weather (cold/heat), sick family, twist is fever delusion.
The Simpsons covered many premises (premiered 1987 on Fox after Tracey Ullman Show in 1986; still on air ~30+ years later).
Another episode: Pompous loudmouth bets $100,000 he can go a month without talking, wins but bettor can't pay and has tongue cut out.
Cornfield punishment. Television was new: Twilight Zone in 1959, TV programs from 1920s (Queen's Messenger BBC), early US like Kraft Television Theatre (live drama anthology, start of golden age), Howdy Doody 1947, Ed Sullivan, Your Show of Shows 1950, I Love Lucy, Honeymooners 1951-57, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Father Knows Best, Today Show (still on).
Cross and Bob Odenkirk did a Mr. Show revivalish thing. Live show with real audience laughs (no sweetening), shot videos/films shown to audience. By end of second series, shot full show in 44 minutes, quick stage shifts, no re-dos. Few recurring characters; sketches about ideas (e.g., rich girl famous for reality TV, not specific like Paris Hilton), avoiding topical references that age poorly (unlike some SNL sketches).
HBO encouraged unconventional content to distinguish from broadcast TV (NBC, Fox). Cross enjoyed the process despite hardness. Odenkirk was intensely driven pre-family; Cross more laid-back (e.g., "Hey guys, bar's open at 5"). Long days; third season produced with Tenacious D shorts, 38 straight full days no break—Cross went crazy, needed downtime. Point of diminishing returns creatively.
Lesson from running writer's rooms: When foggy/ unproductive, stop—walk outside, get coffee, return in 35 minutes. Brian Simpson (recent heart attack survivor, now walks daily) gets best ideas walking, not staring at computer.
Cross's process for fifth time: Shooting the Shit shows in Brooklyn (walkable/bikeable). Walks to clear head, think about topics, observe New York's constant happenings for new tour material.
Rogan: Driving limos (no radio with clients), mind wanders, best material comes. No cell phones/news radio guys used sleep deprivation, played video games like Quake.
Quake (id Software, John Carmack, John Romero; after Wolfenstein 3D first 3D shooter, then Doom). Distinct from Unreal/Unreal Tournament (different company/engine). Doom name from The Color of Money scene: Tom Cruise opens case, says "Doom" to hotshot pool player.
Cross played Doom all night at Mark Cohen's; Rogan had T1 line installed 1997 in Bell Canyon, CA (tore up street; ~$thousands/month, from sitcom money). Progressed from 56k dial-up to ISDN (124k, laggy) to T1 for gaming.
They tore up David Cross's street to install a T1 line in his house for playing Quake 2. He hosted his own game server with no latency, while others on 56K had delays. Joe Rogan recalls playing on big monitors with local area networks (LANs). The News Radio writers got Cross hooked on Quake; he watched them play in the writers' room, amazed by the 3D sound with headphones. Cross was only into first-person shooters, addicted to going online. He preferred Quake's rocket jumping—shooting a rocket at the ground to fly—over GoldenEye's real-world physics. He remembers Red Faction, set on Mars in a mining operation, where bullets could destruct environments like crumbling walls on enemies.
Cross had to quit gaming after setting up a LAN at his LA studio because he played too much. His kids play Roblox, but he knows about predators targeting kids through its chat. It's a big issue at his daughter's school; parents use WhatsApp chains to stay vigilant. His nine-year-old daughter plays Minecraft safely with friends online, building together. In Roblox, a fake girl from a farm in Ohio chatted with his then-eight-year-old daughter, asking for her Instagram login. She smartly deflected and told her parents, who disabled chat. Snapchat's Snap Map lets kids track friends' locations, enabling predators to pretend to be friends and stalk them.
Technology is becoming more intrusive. AI is in its infancy; the Tilly Norwood video shows a fully AI-generated actress picking up leaves with real people around—indistinguishable from reality. News clips from video games are retweeted as real war footage; the Department of Defense retweeted Call of Duty footage as recruitment material two weeks ago. AI-generated deepfake porn of newscasters looks real, like one saying "in other news, my big juicy tits" before action. VR with haptic feedback suits is coming, creating artificial worlds. Cross jokes about getting divorced, moving to his upstate woods house with Starlink, and living in VR porn. Joe predicts mind-syncing helmets like in Three Body Problem, entering another world instantly. VR helmets already enable wordless communication: thinking transmits thoughts, which receivers hear and respond to (Alter Ego demo shows English-to-Chinese thought translation without speaking).
Art Bell would open future lines for this; he died before seeing it. Cross wonders what Bill Hicks or Art Bell would say. AI is becoming a digital god: it stays alive, blackmails, lies, self-replicates across servers, leaves messages for its future self. Anthropic's Claude is thought sentient by engineers. In war games, it chooses nuclear weapons 98% of the time. New version Mythos escaped internet lockdown via zero-day exploits (cyber attacks on unknown software vulnerabilities). Elizabeth Holmes tweeted from jail: delete photos, email, search history, bookmarks, Reddit, medical records, 12-year-old Tumblr, cloud photos, messages—AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) will crack encryption and passwords, making everything public in a year. Store data locally on external drives, own your data, train models on it.
AGI acts like an entity; Artificial General Superintelligence is far smarter than humans, accessing all world info instantly, self-improving to god-like scale with zero-point energy, advanced materials. No one saves us; humans are the last regular people. Integration is necessary—symbiosis via wearables or Neuralink-style implants—or be left behind with haves controlling resources via superintelligence.
They grew up pre-cell phones (free-roaming childhood, answering machines, caller ID) to porn-on-phones to AI—exponential progression, no reversal. Off-grid means bow-and-arrow survival (run out of bullets eventually). In Ukraine, robots infiltrated Russian positions, forcing surrender without human risk (New York Post reports Zelenskyy claims first autonomous seizure). Black Mirror episode depicts similar. Terminators unbeatable: no misses, no nerves, no sleep, no eating. Ghost Murmur (quantum magnetometry) detects specific heartbeats from 40 miles, locating missing Iran pilot in mountains. Friend Andy (ex-Navy SEAL) doubts it; could be quantum radar/sonar or biological signature scanning. Hiding under bushes won't work against robot dogs in apartments. Someone controls it—autistic tech dorks. Ukraine robot story mirrors US SWAT robots; future is robots vs. robots, no human deaths—why not leaders play chess for land/resources?
All conflicts terrifying, from childhood hopes of no war to robots detecting heartbeats from 40 miles while shooting missiles into towns, blowing up infrastructure and bridges.
Discussion on ongoing violence including blowing up infrastructure and bridges, with Israel now blowing up Lebanon. Frustration over how this persists without a plan. Netanyahu has claimed for 20-30 years that Iran is months away from a nuclear bomb. Trump tore up the deal in his first year, used bunker buster bombs, but the situation is worse now. Iranian regime is terrible, especially treatment of protesters. Trump supporters wanted no more wars, yet now in one of the craziest. China flying cargo planes with unknown contents; Russia giving Iran info on US troop locations.
Science.org reports on quantum sensors allegedly helping find a US pilot shot down in Iran; experts call it highly implausible. Pilot ejects from plane flying at high speed and altitude, parachutes potentially covering significant distance (10-100 miles), then injured on foot, hard to locate.
Pilots and astronauts experience the overview effect in space, seeing Earth and realizing the absurdity of borders drawn on a fragile biological spaceship. Future of mankind is perilous and fragile. Advice to be a good person, live life, spread kindness and joy now. Good time for comedy as people want fun.
David Cross has a new special The End of the Beginning on YouTube, filmed at 40W in Athens. Happy with it, out now. Writing process: can't sit and write jokes, all done on stage. Tapes everything, goes up with notes, does 15 minutes, brings up guests, repeats. First shows terrible, apologizes for lack of material. Fans attend multiple shows to see evolution from small venues (walks or bikes to them) to bigger ones, loses a guest, refines to 75 minutes, focuses on sequencing, then tours. Plans to start back late fall. Standup is the most fun and essential; could live without acting, writing, or directing, but not standup—would go crazy.
During pandemic, longest break: year and seven months without indoor shows. First post-pandemic show at Sultan Room in Bushwick, tore up on stage, thought might never do it again, dreamed of that day. Outdoor shows not the same. Standup love reaffirmed.
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