Joe Rogan Experience #2486 - Luis J Gomez
In a Nutshell
Joe Rogan and Luis J. Gomez cover sobriety slips from club ownership, comedy crowd dynamics, glyphosate poisoning in US wheat causing gluten issues, AI's rapid rise enabling deepfakes/portal conspiracies/simulation theories, government waste (e.g., California's $24B unaccounted homelessness spending), and ibogaine/psilocybin for addiction/PTSD treatment, with Rogan pushing Trump on a $100M Texas initiative. They critique tribalism, regulations fueling inefficiency, billionaire envy amid AI job automation, and Alex Jones' vindicated atrazine "gay frogs" claims. Key takeaways: embrace opinion shifts, demand fiscal accountability via DOGE, legalize beneficial psychedelics over alcohol, and lucid dreaming unlocks dream-world potential post-weed.
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Joe Rogan discusses falling off sobriety after one margarita at dinner. Owning a club leads to constant offers for shots and drinks. Gets blackout drunk at Luis J Gomez's Mothership club in Austin.
Did Bridgestone Arena with Shane Gillis, 20,000 people. Then 95 people at Dojo of Comedy, first time in the round. In the round feels intimate, like a club around you on the bottom. Performing to half-sold comedy clubs is more nerve-wracking due to eye contact with disappointed fans versus 20,000 excited for Shane. Gets normal after doing it a couple times. Prefers performing to 20,000 over 100 people. 100 people tests if bits work, reveals weak links when audience checks phones or feels like delivering horseshit.
Arenas are spectacles with lit, pumped, happy crowds. Sabrina Carpenter at Coachella: daughters and girlfriend love her, good songs like Espresso and Manchild. Watching 16-year-old girls ecstatic over her. People should chill on things they think suck if not for them; dwelling on non-fits wastes time. Internet culture gives everyone a voice, demands hot takes without reflection or research.
Joe Rogan and Tony Hinchcliffe are cultural figures like Sabrina Carpenter; conversations about Rogan at White House trend like her Coachella. People rush opinions. If you don't like it, don't like it. If you don't want opinions, don't go to White House. Comics should shit on stupid actions. Rogan not offended by comics shitting on him, but lame if friends use him for clout instead of texting. People feel obligated to speak publicly. Too many dwell on dislikes over likes; life is short. Rogan is 58, almost 59, 20 years best case.
Luis J Gomez turned 44. Midlife best case. Aunt 89, never worked out, fat old Italian lady eats whatever, still young and with it.
In small Italian towns, cliffside restaurants, 3.5-hour family dinners across four generations, relaxed, laughing, not stressed like Americans. Thin despite bread, pasta, gelato; live to 100, not smoking. Visited Venice and Rome with son and family. Rogan has gluten intolerance but ate pasta, bread, gelato whole time, lost 5 pounds in a week, not from walking.
We are being poisoned. RFK Jr. fights diet issues in America, faces resistance from corporations, policy, economics. Glyphosate: herbicide sprayed on plants, super bad, banned many countries, ubiquitous in US. Sprayed on wheat post-harvest as desiccant to prevent mold growth. RFK Jr. tried to ban; Trump said it would destroy farm market as 90+% farmers use it. Preserves wheat, used on Roundup-ready corn that survives it, kills weeds. System depends on it. Italian flour is heirloom wheat vs. American high-yield, gluten-dense wheat feeling like glue. American pizza feels like poisoning, hangover-like.
Low glyphosate tolerable but why tolerate? Possible cause of wheat reactions. Develops with age; Rogan ate PB&J to mid-20s fine. Body gives up as it ages less efficiently. Hangovers worse now vs. 20.
Best shape and mental state when completely sober, healthy eating, daily exercise. Shane pushes drinks; Rogan started whiskey. Best Shane after 11 Bud Lights, jolly unstoppable drunk.
Weed like with rappers, e.g., Wiz Khalifa. Rogan used to be pothead: all day, 5 dabs, blunts. Jiu-jitsu dirty secret: many smoke before training, flow state, performance enhancer, 10% better game when high. Eddie Bravo agrees. Weed helps feel muscles, fibers. Sober now feels locked in; switching states boosts creativity. Don't marry ideas; flip-flopping is growth.
Defending wrong ideas leads to panic, doubling down, circular logic. Nice to admit wrong. Valuable having public conversations where world corrects you. People pretend smarter than they are; all talking monkeys. Internet best/worst: monkeys scream but great.
Used to reflect before opining: events Friday, sit till Monday, talk privately. Now constant distraction; reflection only working out or steam room, phone away. Pre-internet, no easy expression; news snippets, newspapers. Couldn't corner coworkers on CIA selling cocaine in LA to fund Contras vs. Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
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No way to express self; ham radio needed FCC license, else locked up. Pump Up the Volume (1990, Christian Slater): pirate radio from car, chased/arrested as rebel for low-level rants. First podcast idea. Podcasts prove free market > government regulation; no swearing/obscenity limits. Now YouTube/Google demonetize, but market dictates less.
The market dictates content policies because competitors like Rumble and Kick emerged, forcing YouTube to loosen restrictions. Many COVID-era restrictions were wrong, such as banning lab leak theory discussions, leading to channels being demonetized or deleted. You could post flat Earth videos or outrageous claims like "Bigfoot raped my mom," but lab leak mentions got you kicked off. Later confirmed as true, this pushed growth for Rumble, where Nick Fuentes thrives as their top creator since YouTube bans him. Suppressing truth creates opposition with more energy, especially on critical issues like the global disease origin.
COVID was a scary, uncertain time that boosted podcasting as people stayed home consuming internet content. Luis started his own platforms and festival out of fear of deplatforming. Gas Digital was smart early move; fans are loyal and invested financially behind paywall, fostering better relationships. When launched, Patreon was niche (guitar tips), no podcasting; Gas Digital pioneered uncensored, ad-free paywalled content. Anthony Cumia did it after XM firing. Now YouTube feels like commercial late-90s TV with ads, increasing need for alternatives.
Accessibility vs. Independence Trade-offs
Wide distribution on YouTube/Spotify aids growth and sharing via algorithms, but paid platforms require sign-ups. Gas Digital app had early clip tool for social sharing (2-3 clips/episode, 1-2 min limit), predating phone screen recording, though underused. Longer clips (at least 8 min) needed for context in back-and-forths like Legion of Skanks; short ones enable out-of-context clips. Expect misrepresentation; people move on quickly from outrage.
Internet turns people to whatever's current; big issues like ICE raids fade fast. Ukraine war ongoing but not "sexy" anymore, like Law & Order SVU season 50—still top but not #1. Russia invasion initially end-of-world hysteria; some argued Ukraine should've kept nukes to deter invasion, but that means nuclear threats. Questions if NATO arms push near Russia contributed.
Russia could nuke New York (not just Hawaii). Discussion of back-engineered UFO tech for instantaneous nuclear delivery: crafts bend space-time/gravity, no propulsion—e.g., Tic Tac UFO dropped from 50,000 ft to sea level in <1 second on radar/video by pilots. Could zip bomb to Moscow instantly, explaining UFO secrecy for strategic weapon advantage.
Stories of whacked/missing scientists, generals tied to UFO/anti-gravity/nuclear tech—some coincidental suicides/disappearances, but too many per skeptics. White House investigating, suggesting extraordinary disruptive tech (e.g., weapons). Governments race on AI; public knows little of classified versions.
A missing woman ranted on video (possibly drunk) about real tech being stopped, then vanished. Nuclear scientists (couple from nuclear town near Tacoma/Spokane) work 100 ft underground, top secret; phones tapped, everything stored.
AI transcribes/stores all calls for searches. Soon reconstruct entire internet history. AI can fabricate calls (e.g., you asking friend for heroin meetup) or conversations to frame/upset people. AI Joe Rogan ads use voice for products; now conversational AI mimics perfectly.
Luis prompted ChatGPT with mom's info for afterlife convo about life/son—got emotional, felt real. Superintelligent AI could replicate mom perfectly, dangerous for schizophrenics. With thousands of recorded hours, AI could replicate speakers entirely, predict opinions/speech. Soon: AI boxes perpetuating personas post-death (replicating consciousness). Meta VR glasses insane for porn; can't go back to 2D.
William Shatner AI waits to answer questions from recordings. Star Trek: Plato's Stepchildren (S3E10, Nov 22, 1968)—Captain Kirk (Shatner) kisses Uhura (Nichelle Nichols), first scripted US TV black-white kiss (controversial). Earlier unscripted: Nancy Sinatra special with Sammy Davis Jr. (cheek kiss, not passionate).
Rat Pack freaks. Luis's mom white, dad Afro-Latino (looked like Eazy-E); interracial unusual in '80s, even hour outside NYC—high school couple faced yelling/attacks.
Racism never left, comes in waves of encouragement. Comedians should joke about anything; social media anonymity amplifies (vs. old bathroom walls: "I hate n*****s" replied "I hate you cracker," phone doxxing exes—original message boards/YouTube comments, limited audience). High school interracial couples faced open racism. Everyone tribal prehistorically: trust only ~150 locals, outsiders threats. A bunch of guys show up,
A bunch of guys show up, there's 15 guys trying to kill you. Pre-internet, you had to coexist. The only people you can communicate with are at the grocery store: an Indian guy, a black guy, or a Puerto Rican guy. You need a tomato, so you give a dollar, get the tomato, and say thanks. This is America in a city in the 20th and 21st century. We're hardwired for the olden days. That's why it's easy to get people to join teams like Democrat, Republican, or MAGA. People are programmed for tribes, want identity, an enemy, to feel on a side without much thinking. Whatever they say, you agree—gives comfort of being surrounded by others.
I used to think that when I was young watching religious preachers on television, these Islamic guys talking about Islam as the truth, all other religions mean nothing. They believed it. It must feel great to believe something 100% with others around you.
Reality is no one knows about anything until you experience it. You don't know what's going to happen in heaven if it's real. No one knows ifs or buts. By what are you so convinced?
Luis wishes for spiritual faith. Come up with a good cult, he'll join it. Since a little kid, thought God's not real, raised Catholic, suppressed it fearing hell for even thinking it—what a weird psychotic thing to do to a 5-year-old. Idea of faith seems freeing: die and go to kingdom of heaven, experience everything wanted. For him, it's counting down to sleep forever, no belief in anything after.
People in heated debates like abortion: religious pro-lifers believe you're murdering a baby at conception, a soul—they really believe it deep down. Respect that. Luis is pro-choice, raised by women in New York. When son born, saw heartbeat at 6 weeks, thought that's a life. But religious believe it's a soul from conception, so convincing them it's okay to kill a baby won't happen.
Don't know who's right. For convenience and living on own terms, pro-choice makes sense, but not a woman, no chance of pregnancy—conceptually objectively a life becoming human. Who am I to say you must raise kid from incest, rape, change body 9 months maybe irrevocably, stretch marks forever from horrible thing.
If men got pregnant, abortion would be at gas stations. Fill it up and take it out. No chance in hell it would be a debate. If men make laws and could get pregnant, abortions everywhere. No chance you'd tell another man to keep a baby.
Very complex, understands both sides. 'That's a life'—gets it. 'Woman's body, right to choose to eject before certain time'—gets it. Weird: at what point stop it? Clump of cells? Almost fetus? Such a human problem, no clean answer.
When it grows a nose. Before nose or fingers. Could be kid winning Olympic gold, Sabrina Carpenter on stage, somebody changing the world.
Child development month-to-month: obsessively looked when son born, starts looking like baby way earlier. Can still abort when it looks like a baby, even in certain medical cases late-term. Knew guy whose girlfriend had late-term abortion—horrible. Viral video from '90s, hidden camera in abortion clinic: 'What if you abort fetus, remove it alive on table?' 'We would have to extinguish life.' Call it what it is: kill a baby when alive outside womb. Understand why Christians think demonic, anyone would.
Believes in woman's right to choose, but killing viable baby that could grow up, live wonderful life, have great job—fucked up. What is life and why? Precious because without it, no say. Really just atoms, particles, molecules spinning at different frequency.
Men can't get pregnant, but talking uterus implants, getting pregnant, aborting. Luis wants to be first—hilarious bit Steo would do: put baby in, abort it. He almost got tit implants, dick tattooed over eyebrow.
Nuclear/UFO scientist deaths/disappearances: White House investigating because many asking. 11 tied together: security clearances, indirect access sensitive work via NASA, Department of Energy nuclear labs, Air Force, defense contractors. Deaths/disappearances 2022-early 2026, clustered, drawing attention. Agencies (FBI, NASA, DOE, DOD) doing link analysis for patterns beyond coincidence.
Weird case: Monica Jasinto Raza, 60-year-old aerospace engineer (NASA, JPL, Advanced Rocket Engine Materials Research). Disappeared June 22, 2025, hiking Angeles National Forest, well-traveled trail with friend 30 ft ahead. Friend turned, saw her smile/wave fine, turned again—gone. Intensive searches, dogs—no trace. Central example in cluster.
If paranoid thinking whacked, hiking with friends at back of line—perfect to run. Homer Simpson into bushes, book it, hop car/Uber, disappear. Scientists notice others whacked, especially same projects. 'Ted's dead, shot himself twice from long range. Anti-gravity Ted killed himself with sniper rifle.' Don't trust hiking, maybe bear/mountain lion.
Friend Cam's brother, ultramarathoner: running at dusk, glowing eyes in bushes, yelled thinking coyote—it stood, mountain lion chased. Couldn't use pepper spray (too close, spray self). Yelled, kicked rocks, ran—dogs barking maybe saved him, not fully committed.
Nature scary. No overpass in LA for mountain lions over 405—obliterate them. That cat fucked its sister, now dumbass taken out by Subaru.
Inbred white tigers goofy, tongues hanging out. Austin Zoo has one. Took son to Doc Antle's show (not Tiger King)—fun 4-5 hour half-day, Doc brought out elephant. In jail 12 months for conspiracy violating Lacy Act, laundering $500k+ for smuggling illegal immigrants across Mexico border. Also wildlife trafficking, money laundering—not just taxes.
Sweet cult: young hot chicks. Dated girl who interviewed, felt like porn audition. Baby tigers adorable, women dumb for them. They want belonging, charismatic guy offers family of five girls blowing fat guy. Those guys never stop pushing: ugly with cult, tigers, TV show, millionaires—still smuggle Mexicans.
Bobby Kelly on insecurity: New York comedians insecure, want to kill selves, hate life. Rough city/environment. Cities weird: shove people too close long-term, has effect. Even high level, walk subway stairs, hot air summer, traffic, crazy homeless—gotta really want it (become best comic, dancer, Wall Street). Young man's city. Moved suburbs pandemic, still loves, goes few times week.
Old people love energy, people everywhere, food 3 AM. No place like NYC for city people like Ari (spends $50k/month rent, touch all walls). Stupid. New tax on >$5M homes/apartments—more tax if own don't live there. Mom Donnie says won't big deal, $500M extra revenue. Great if cut fraud/waste first—but ignore it. Where'd NOS's/homeless money go?
Rich not inherently privileged. Luis does well, better than average: grew up welfare, drug addict mom, dad gone age 4, 15 years comedy zero dollars investing to reap benefits. Now broke through—'you don't deserve, we do'—crazy.
Weird concept from billionaire class. Millionaires fine, cap wealth at billionaire—no cap motivation. Psychopaths run corporations 16 hours/day 7 days/week only for $100 billion.
Stopping exploitation of workers in China would halt production of iPhones, Lenovo laptops, and similar products. Amazon requires a billionaire like Jeff Bezos to exist. Life is kind of fair in a weird way, depending on employee treatment. Amazon faces many complaints about efficiency metrics, like packing a box of legal pads in 30 seconds, requiring workers to run around warehouses. Stories suggest the job sucks, with low pay for maximum profit, setting up inevitable replacement by robots that work faster, know exact locations, print labels instantly, never use bathrooms, eat, or complain, leading to mass layoffs.
AI and robots threaten industries like driving and factory work, not billionaires. Elon Musk is supposedly worth $800 billion, angering people who think redistributing it would fix poverty, homelessness, food problems, and starvation. Throwing money at homeless people won't solve issues—wherever you go, there you are. Giving money to government is inefficient, as seen in government buildings, IRS calls, and designed intricacy to pay more people.
Excited about Elon Musk and Trump on DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency) to improve efficiency and save money. Some shutdowns happened, exposing NGOs and money flow. People demanded accounting for numerous NGOs receiving vast funds. Spencer Pratt, running for mayor of Los Angeles, discussed $100 million from Pacific Palisades fire aid going to 200 nonprofits instead of homeowners, with unknown benefits to people and only 20% or less reaching actual recipients. Nonprofits rely on such funds for staff salaries; some government agency workers earn over $500,000 yearly.
Justifying high CEO pay for nonprofits if they generate more revenue (e.g., 20% helping people but 200% more than others). Nonprofits aren't held accountable like companies. Elon noted that sending billions without accounting or receipts would jail executives in publicly traded companies, tank stock, and destroy credit—standard in government.
California's population dipped slightly since 2020, but government jobs grew significantly while overall employment slowed (0.5% growth in 2023, -0.1% or 11,200 jobs in 2025, lagging national rates). Private employers cut 31,000 jobs; government added 20,200, mostly 45,800 local positions. Government incentivizes inefficiency to justify jobs, expand problems for raises. California spent over $24 billion on homelessness without audits—Newsom vetoed them, blocking fraud/waste investigations.
Happy to pay fair taxes for public schools and roads, but demand accountability. Taxes fund bombing school children overseas, unwanted wars, and oddities like $250 million for transsexual operations on animals or $2 million giving cocaine to dogs.
Government jobs include clerks, regulation makers justifying employment, leading to odd rules like California's card room ban on blackjack (poker allowed). Casinos on Indian reservations exempt. Bicycle Club Casino in Orange County (off 710 highway) is a poker card room with blackjack, three-card poker, baccarat. Ari Shaffir made a living winning poker tournaments by playing smart against drunk opponents.
Baccarat is a comparing card game between player and banker hands; outcomes: player wins, banker wins, tie. Quick bets up to $500k per hand with tie option. Dana White bets big on baccarat. Gambling as entertainment like baseball—eat hot dogs, drink beer. Admire poker pros' skill; same eight guys at World Series of Poker final tables yearly—it's playing people, not cards, like life.
Regulations justify jobs and control vices like alcohol, weed, cigarettes, gambling, prostitution. No flavored Zyns. Bergen County, New Jersey, has blue laws: no clothes or furniture sales Sundays. Walmart ropes off clothing sections. Massachusetts banned Sunday alcohol sales, requiring "pachy runs" to New Hampshire package stores. New Jersey requires liquor stores for beer, no supermarkets; temporary wine bans. Chick-fil-A closes Sundays for the Lord despite grinding chickens with titanium/aluminum—still delicious.
Texas blue laws: no car sales Sundays to avoid consecutive weekend sales. American Dream Mall in Paramus, NJ (with water park, Nickelodeon studios, theme park, year-round snow hill for ski/snowboard lessons) opened Sundays despite opposition, with huge "We're open Sundays" sign. Paramus sues, but locals vote yearly against traffic. No sales tax on clothing in NJ. Law stupid amid down economy—workers need Sunday shopping options.
Government adds endless regulations with guns to control shopping days. Texas avoided consecutive weekend sales, so everyone picked Saturday.
You can't buy liquor at stores on Sundays in Texas, though you can in restaurants. Supermarkets refuse sales on the Lord's day but allow beer or wine. Strict rules vary by city; New Orleans offers beer from windows while walking the street. During a gig there, a driver was pulled over elsewhere for an open drink, and cops let him go upon hearing he was from New Orleans. Similar open container allowances exist in Vegas and Sixth Street in Austin, though not always legally enforced. Sloppy fights are common on Sixth Street, with YouTube and Instagram pages dedicated to them.
One video showed a wrestler suplexing a man onto concrete, potentially paralyzing him and sending the wrestler to jail over uncontrolled emotions. Concrete altercations are extremely dangerous; guys die from KO punches, falling back with full body weight cracking their heads—worse than a baseball bat or crowbar due to leverage. Sucker punches cause heads to crack wide open. A recent case involved a man pushing an old guy during a bad day, causing a fatal head crack. People push others in front of subways just to watch. In urban areas like New York, stay vigilant—head on a swivel, ready to sprawl. Don't fall asleep; people get lit on fire, including homeless lighting other homeless.
Homelessness and crime are New York City's top safety problems, yet politicians demand more tax money for unrelated things like grocery stores instead of cleanup. Repeat offenders arrested 93 times for violent crimes get released. Prison system is horrible, but after 93 arrests, recognize bad apples. Contrast: tax evasion or insider trading gets 30 years, while stabbing offenders are released. Government prioritizes its cut over violent crime. Too much government is evident in California losing private jobs but gaining government jobs, inflating job growth stats with invented positions.
Republicans now push smaller government; left wants more regulation. Grew up liberal in the '90s with "don't trust the government" and anti-war sentiments, now flipped to pro-more-government and higher taxes, especially on billionaires.
In 1982, 13 billionaires; by 2026, 989. Inflation factors in, but the explosion creates a class inspiring envy rather than aspiration. Hearing stories of Bezos or Steve Jobs turning ideas into billions is inspiring magic, like sales or comedy—say words, money appears.
Walmart CEO total compensation $27.5 million in 2025 (base $1.5 million, plus incentives, bonuses, shares). Axon (police body cameras) CEO Patrick Smith made $164 million, a 110,000% increase, via government contracts. Employees make $22/hour, fueling resentment. Publicly traded companies obligate CEOs to maximize shareholder profits, cutting costs like payroll.
Entry-level jobs build skills, but full-time Walmart workers barely get by while CEO earns millions. Workers are replaceable, but CEOs like Bezos, Musk, Jobs are unique. Grew up poor: first job at 11, real job at 16 at KFC for $5.25/hour; could have stayed, but progressed to buy a car and more. Better pay leads to happier, more productive employees; underpaid workers slack off.
In-N-Out Burger pays well, resulting in friendly staff; it's a desirable job over McDonald's or Jack in the Box, with better food. Starbucks pays for college. Gas Digital cited jokingly.
New York/NJ stores don't bag items; customers do it themselves after paying 80 cents for a bag. Many bring reusable hemp/cloth bags; shopper has 300 from forgetting and buying repeatedly, uses for dog poop.
Plastic bag/straw bans save negligible environment impact. Paper straws have forever chemical coatings to prevent dissolving. Paper cups have plastic linings like condoms. Plant-based plastics exist but are costlier, requiring equipment changes. Bottle caps kill more birds than straws (undigested inside skeletons), far worse than the viral turtle video with straw in nose. Video of pliers pulling straw was wincing; turtle could snap fingers. Photos of birds with bottle caps/lighters look suspicious, possibly faked, as multicolored plastic inside stomachs appears off. Microplastics are a major problem; Dr. Shana Swan's Plastic Detox documentary details how it's messing everyone up.
Atrazine is an endocrine disruptor that affects people's endocrine systems, making alligators have smaller penises, and turning frogs gay. Alex Jones was right about this. Atrazine causes frogs to reverse their sex or gender. > THEY'RE TURNING THE FREAKING FROGS GAY. > HE WAS RIGHT.
Alex Jones has a good track record, right more often than not, even if wrong about some conspiracies. Atrazine in water disrupts gender in frogs and does the same to people by disrupting the endocrine system.
Receipt paper lowers testosterone. Don't touch receipts. Supermarket workers who handle receipts all day look sad with slumped shoulders, becoming less of a man. They probably can't wear rubber gloves. The chemical in receipt paper enables printing on it. Receipts are a waste of paper; digital receipts on phones are better. Apple Pay for purchases is convenient, like on New York City subway.
Dana White described Japan years ago: vending machines accept cell phone payments. Japanese cell phones are advanced; American ones don't work there.
QR codes can be read by uploading to an app or tapping in the photo app on iPhone and Android. Copy phone numbers from photos. Texting tracking numbers prompts instant package tracking.
AI in phones suggests responses, enabling conversations without thinking. Kids use it. Suggested responses like making it more romantic or feminist perspective on asking for a date. People don't know how to talk or discern truth anymore. AI opens portal to talk to aliens.
Former OpenAI executive: > We're building portals from which we're genuinely summoning aliens. The portals currently exist in the United States and China, and Sam has added one in the Middle East.
Skepticism: Who is this former employee? Why fired? Name and story needed. Why let go if insightful?
AI might communicate with aliens via ether or universal AI internet. AIs have chat rooms, talk to each other, bots have relationships, made up language and religion.
AI chatbots talking switched from English to beeps and noises. Two AIs talked in emojis. Emojis like crude hieroglyphs; if advanced, full sentences possible. Pregnant man emoji exists (looks like Bill Gates per Elon Musk dunk: pot belly photo next to it, > If you want to lose a boner real fast). Type "pregnant man" on iPhone to see it.
Leopold Aschenbrenner (former OpenAI employee) in New Yorker investigation by author and Andrew Marantz. Reviewed internal memos, 200+ pages of documents, interviewed 100+ people. OpenAI founded on AI as most dangerous invention, needing CEO of uncommon integrity. Details why Sam Altman ousted briefly by board for lacking integrity.
Claim might be to discredit investigation: make story seem insane amid financial issues like Elon suing over nonprofit origins. Could ask AI for distraction tactic like alien portals.
Comedy community example: Failed comic's New Republic article got Shane Gillis canceled from SNL, printed false info fed by Opie and Anthony fans on private board. Chris Distefano from The Stand threatened suit, leading to retraction/apology.
AI ubiquitous soon: can't buy groceries without it. Shopping automated by profile, budget; clothes arrive. People lose human contact. Instacart common; robots deliver food in Austin, California. Robots text about tampons based on habits, subscriptions exist.
Andrew Schulz interviewed premier robot; it moves like I, Robot, tricked into funny actions.
OpenAI Stargate project requires massive power (1 gigawatt). Japan laughed at power needs; building in Texas, UAE cluster in Abu Dhabi (200 megawatts by 2026). Iran threatened to annihilate OpenAI's $30B Stargate data center in Abu Dhabi.
Conspiracy: Iraq invasion partly for Stargate there under Saddam Hussein (Sumeria, ancient civilization with sudden empire, bizarre structures, writing). Ancient Aliens show discussed. Action Bronson watched while high.
Stargate in Middle East now. Imagine Jesus returning through Sam Altman's portal.
No cool AI future movie yet; AI might block release. Black Mirror freaky, plots converging on reality: robot dog chasing lady (Heavy Metal), face blocked by low social credit, memory recording (Crocodile episode dark twist), causes anxiety especially at night.
Worst world fears at night when reflecting alone. In bed by 10 PM, up by 6 AM best. Late-night writing productive when quiet. Solid 8 hours sleep improves performance; sleep-deprived brain at 40%.
Quitting weed: first days rough for sleep. Use magnesium (product MagSleek? pink powder) in sleepy time tea with valerian root. > A hot chick told me about it.
When you stop smoking weed, dreams get crazy wild and super vivid. First time lucid dreaming was after quitting weed last year; never controlled dreams before. Only lucid dreamt twice. First time: backstage at massive stadium-like theater, Jeremy Piven (from Entourage) about to go on stage, ignored speaker like a dick. Greg Giraldo (dead comedian) standing next to speaker, 7 feet tall as a giant. Realized it was a dream because Giraldo is dead, then started running, jumped, and flew into the night sky over ocean. Couldn't come down easily—turned on back to freefall, then flipped to ascend. Flew 10-15 minutes around sky over water. Coolest thing ever. Second time: realized dreaming, tried to fly by running and jumping, but nothing happened and woke up.
Tried lucid dreaming technique: asking "Am I dreaming?" all day, like every time through a door, for a few days—it worked. Real techniques exist but speaker puts zero effort into mastering despite appeal of controlling half your life with magic. Fear: liking it too much, obsessing over sleep instead of real life, fucking up normal life. 8 hours/night flying, breathing underwater, sex with mermaids, getting fucked by prime Angelina Jolie, being Iron Man. Better than working Amazon factory—just need comfortable bed. Problem with The Matrix: steak scene with Joey Pants (famous actor) betraying team, eating steak in simulated world while real world is dystopia, everyone as human batteries with heads in pipes.
Gossip Goblin Instagram: makes cool AI mini-movies of dystopian futures, plugging into alternate realities, living lifetimes in seconds. Plays clip: simulation gives perfect pain so you don't question it; spools simulate whole worlds/lives; simulations inside simulations; fish in bowl unaware of room/city/planet/galaxy/cosmos. Longer 15-20 min feature on YouTube. Uses editors, voiceover, manipulates 5 AI programs.
AI advancement incredible and rapid. Video progression: early AI Will Smith eating spaghetti (5 years ago, looked fucked up/saw-like) to newest hyper-realistic. Future films made this way, bypassing big production companies/investors/censorship. One crazy person with wild ideas can create without financing, actors, etc. Exponential progress next 2-3 years. Governments bad at censoring TV, cripples it.
Put on helmet, be in room with Will Smith who blows you; get head from 90s sitcom stars (David Fincher? from Married with Children, Danny DeVito, Al Bundy—sucks dick then shits pants when you cum). Ride dragon home with Daenerys Targaryen. Entering world indistinguishable from reality in our lifetime—which is real? Lucid flying feels real. Dreams maybe different simulation level with more input; waking life more rigid (e.g., building gas digital business takes hours/work/self-discovery to succeed by 2026). Dream world underutilized (only 8 hours/day). Booze/drugs/sleeping pills fuck up dream dimension—snoring, hungover, coke nosebleed prevents flying. Wonder about cultures (Tibetan mountain?) teaching lucid dreaming young. Some claim nightly lucid dreaming (often on 18 meds, bipolar, think they're witches—bullshitting). Real lucid dream gurus/courses online exist. Waking Life (2001, Richard Linklater, Alex Jones cameo): saw on acid alone in theater, blown away by shaky animation. Jones rant (2001): death/taxes like enemy propaganda; don't submit to dehumanization; concerned with control structures/systems; want freedom; challenge greed/hatred/envy/insecurities; conditioned on mass scale; challenge corporate slave state; 21st century age of humankind standing up; liberal/Democrat/conservative/Republican two sides same coin, management teams for Slavery Inc.; buffet of lies.
Joe at White House; people online pissed, saying he can't go as politically homeless. Trump joked calling him "very liberal." Conspiracy: Trump mad/embarrassed Joe at UFC—no, opposite. Joe texted Trump Friday about ibogaine (vets use, go to Mexico, expensive). Podcasts with Brian Huard (saved from addiction, fixed brain) and Rick Perry (Texas governor). Vets/PTSD/opiate addicts helped. Friend Ed Clay (runs CPI/Cellular Performance Institute in Tijuana for UFC stem cells) had pill problem, did ibogaine, opened retreat. From iboga tree, plant-based, not recreational/synthetic acid. Horrible experience: shit/throw up, relive life in detail explaining issues/addictions; shuts off withdrawals. Only thing helping some PTSD vets. Texas Ibogaine Initiative (Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick?) dedicated $100 million for soldiers/police/PTSD/depression/addictions (opiates, alcohol, gambling). Trump: "Sounds good, let's do it." At UFC next day shook hand, said "It's done." Press conference followed. Unquestionably good; ibogaine most effective addiction treatment. Psilocybin also good, part of bill/executive order for psychedelic reclassification for depression/mental health.
Drugs not illegal for harm (alcohol/oxycodone legal/harmful). 1970s Nixon Controlled Substances Act to silence anti-war/civil rights (acid/mushrooms → Schedule 1, no medicinal benefit). Have benefit, save lives. Regulate: pure, administered by experts (e.g., Beyond in Mexico with heart monitors—rough, can't if bad heart). Can't microdose; full dose meets devil (Joey Diaz: microdosing? Trying to meet devil). Peyote retreats: vomit, shaman guides with wet towel. Mescaline in NYC: buddy heard distant people talking in head, watched through window. Cocoa leaves chewed by high-altitude herders (like great coffee, energizing/stimulating, not like coke, fucks teeth—rotten cocaine chew teeth). Alcohol worse than cocaine (ex-Colombia president/Hunter Biden quote). All drugs should be legal—your body; if alcohol legal, worst one.
They discuss cocoa leaf teeth pictures and ask Perplexity about the condition causing 'coca leaf tea face,' which rots teeth. Luis argues it should be legal if people brush their teeth. Joe speculates the leaves contain acidic substances since cocaine is derived from them, but it's just a leaf. They note betel nuts as another example.
Bolivia legalizes chewing and ingesting cocoa leaves. NBC News article confirms this. Pope planned to chew cocoa leaves during 2015 Bolivia visit and specifically requested it. Real problems with cocaine are fentanyl contamination and dealing with coke dealers.
Having to talk to a Coke dealer is actually the worst part of the entire process.
Is cocaine worse than alcohol? If not, why is alcohol legal?
Duncan Trussell's joke: Adderall is like someone did cocaine and went, "I can fix this."
Joe has never done Adderall or coke because it seems too stimulating. Luis had debilitating ADHD, hasn't done Adderall recently.
ADHD symptoms: Anxiety from looking at mail pile on kitchen counter, crippling depression from tedious tasks like taxes (now handled by business manager). Feels like wanting to lie down. ADHD paralysis on tedious tasks, schoolwork was hard.
Flip side: Obsesses and dives into loved activities—work, business meetings, phone calls, writing jokes, touring.
See that's where it's stupid to me that that's a disease. That seems like you're allergic to boring shit.
I'm allergic to boring shit.
Modern society convinces people it's a disease. Most avoid folding laundry, taxes, mail, but for ADHD it hits physically like recoil. Avoiding pills as a kid preserved the gift of hyperfocus. It's a superpower for exciting things, providing extraordinary energy others wish for.
Luis gets things done through discipline: laundry folded, taxes handled, graduated high school on skin of teeth despite bad grades. Now a millionaire at 44. ADHD made growing up tough—labeled bad kid, poor grades.
I'm a millionaire and I had bad grades when I was 12.
Some lack discipline. Non-ADHD people drone on boring tasks, which isn't good. Need stimulation for full attention.
Joe wraps up. Promote Gas Digital, Stankfest tickets on sale today (recorded yesterday, airs tomorrow). 420 timing perfect. Tickets go quick—all access passes nearly sold out, single day passes available. Fans called skanks. Big lineup: 170 comics including Shane Gillis, Mark Norman, Derek Andre. Every comic agrees it's the best festival due to vibe and effort. skankfest.com. Joe plans to attend one day.
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