Joe Rogan Experience #2539 - Protect Our Parks 17
In a Nutshell
The group argues that biological sex is biologically fixed by chromosomes and that allowing transgender women in women's sports creates unfair advantages that can't be reconciled with the ideology's refusal to define "woman." They criticize government waste on homelessness, the unchecked power of tech platforms and prediction markets to manipulate public discourse, and the rise of fentanyl and urban decay as symptoms of failed policy. Joe Rogan and guests repeatedly return to the idea that modern institutions—from sports governing bodies to Congress to city governments—are captured by ideology, corruption, or both, and that only a return to biological and fiscal reality can fix it.
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The group discusses various beers including Voodoo Ranger IPA, Guinness, Bud Light, and Miller. They note Guinness has fewer calories than expected despite its creaminess. One participant mentions gaining 45 pounds from drinking IPAs like Bud Light after shows, consuming around 10 IPAs per night. The conversation covers beer density and calories, with Guinness being surprisingly lighter than Budweiser despite its thickness.
Participants discuss nicotine pouches, specifically Zyn brand containing 6 milligrams each. One person reports trouble sleeping after consuming multiple pouches, experiencing ongoing nicotine effects that prevented sleep. The recommended daily limit mentioned is 3-6 milligrams, though some use them before workouts or activities. Norman tries a pouch for the first time and experiences burning sensation, tingling legs, and twitching toes. The group warns about potential hiccups and intense effects.
Norman recounts accidentally taking Molly and immediately regretting it, taking a Bolt Bus from Philadelphia back to New York. The incident occurred when both participants agreed to take Molly together, with Norman panicking and needing to leave. The bus ride home on Molly is described as unpleasant, with Norman noting they were poor at the time and the bus cost only a dollar.
The conversation covers a transgender athlete attempting to qualify for the WNBA named Caner, who recently gained attention through trigonometry content. The group discusses how this highlights issues with defining what constitutes a woman, noting the ideology creates problems when biological males compete in women's sports. They mention a transgender woman dominating in France's national team, described as a giant male athlete.
The WNBA's first profitable year occurred recently after previously hemorrhaging money. The group notes increased ticket sales and attention due to controversy, with racial division and transgender issues driving viewership. They discuss player salaries, noting endorsements are more significant than base pay, with Caitlin Clark likely being the highest-paid through endorsements. Asia Wilson is identified as the best player, with another player wearing glasses and having poofy hair also mentioned as skilled.
Stephen A. Smith discussed how modern basketball lacks the physicality of previous eras, with stars receiving favorable treatment. Historical examples include cheap shots during Bill Russell's jersey retirement and Charles Oakley fighting during games. The group compares the WNBA's current aggressive play to 1980s NBA basketball, noting Larry Bird-era physicality.
The conversation explores the predominantly lesbian composition of WNBA teams, contrasting this with the NBA where sexual orientation receives little attention. The group discusses how straight players entering the league face advances from teammates, with some attempting to "turn" heterosexual players. This dynamic is compared to what would happen if the NBA consisted primarily of aggressive gay men.
The group examines NBA players' elaborate pre-game outfits, including unusual fashion choices like derby hats and muppet-like costumes. They note this represents current Black culture fashion trends, contrasting with historical players like Larry Bird who dressed more conservatively. The fashion show aspect of NBA arrivals is discussed as a regular occurrence.
A distinction is made between mainstream gay culture and hardcore gay subculture involving leather, motorcycle culture, and explicit content. The group discusses how gay men without children tend to have more sexual encounters, with one anecdote about a friend whose partner was concerned about contracting AIDS from infidelity.
The discussion covers how testosterone makes transgender men infertile, while transgender women on estrogen don't experience menstrual periods. The group notes the advantage of not having to manage hormonal fluctuations that affect mood and performance. Jamie is mentioned in context of injection scheduling for hormone therapy.
The group argues that inability to define biological sex creates policy problems in sports. They note 80% of Democrats oppose transgender women in women's sports, suggesting the issue is being deprioritized by Democratic leadership. The chromosomal distinction (XX vs XY) is presented as the biological basis for sex-segregated sports categories.
The conversation addresses what happens to sports records if athletes change identity, using Caitlyn Jenner winning the Olympics as Bruce Jenner as an example. They discuss whether records should be wiped or reassigned based on current identity, and the concept of "deadnaming" being previously punishable on social media platforms.
X (formerly Twitter) under new ownership is described as more entertaining with fewer restrictions. The platform implemented policies requiring original or accurate content for monetization after discovering foreign accounts creating fake stories for revenue. The group notes difficulty distinguishing real from fake news in the current media environment.
Discussion of fires in Patagonia, Argentina, with claims that Israeli visitors may have started fires and subsequently received land grants. The group mentions 100 hectares of land allegedly given to Israel following fires. Official investigations found at least one blaze deliberately set but have not established perpetrators. Claims against Mapuche communities or Israeli visitors remain unsubstantiated according to prosecutors.
The conversation covers how campfires in national parks have historically caused massive fires, with one area burning completely seven years prior. Malibu fires are attributed to arson, with the perpetrator inspired by Luigi Mangione and caught attempting to return to the scene. Multiple arsonists were documented during the chaos, including individuals caught on video with gasoline and torches.
Shadow Intel X posted a claim that Argentina exposed an Israel takeover plan involving the government. Argentinian presidential spokesman allegedly revealed that conservative land can be sold to foreign private entities once a fire passes through it. The discussion questions whether the story is real or fabricated, noting that accounts with 760,000 followers like Dr. Sam Yousef, PhD, PhD, DPT may be bots or legitimate sources.
Joe Rogan, Shane, and Okconor visited the White House press conference room when President Trump was in Tennessee at a UFC event. A CIA friend invited them in, noting no snipers were present because the president was in Florida at the Miami UFC. They described the room as cool and similar to Argentina's version.
The UFC event at the White House was described as wild and insane. Rogan convinced his friend to attend after he canceled four times, with the final cancellation happening the day before. The friend changed his mind after seeing dirt bikes on the front lawn. The event featured motorcycles going over the floor and fighter jets doing practice flyovers. Everyone had a great time except for later backlash, though Nate's ticket sales remained unaffected despite cancellation threats.
The crowd at the White House UFC event included 10 Medal of Honor winners who were hoping for action. Snipers were positioned all over the rooftop with heavy security presence. Concerns about fighting outside included weather issues like rain or excessive heat. The event was considered a once-in-human-history occurrence, with comparisons made to Teddy Roosevelt having fights on the White House lawn historically.
Critics called the cage fighting on the White House lawn desecrating, while others pointed out previous events including Easter egg hunts and trans ladies with exposed breasts taking Instagram photos on the lawn. The fighter jets were noted as flying extremely close to each other. A terrorist attack attempt involving someone pushing people one direction while others used drone bombs was discussed, with the observation that the UFC crowd would have charged toward any shooter.
After winning his fight, a fighter called Michelle Obama a man, which created significant media attention. Rogan noted the comment was rude but smart because it kept people talking about the fight. The fighter had previously made the same comment in every interview. TMZ approached Rogan after he had consumed 20 beers, asking about the Michelle Obama comment.
An old Strike Force event was held at the Playboy Mansion with Hugh Hefner limping out during the fights accompanied by hookers. The mansion appeared dated with old button phones in the grotto. Hefner died at the right time, as Me Too would have targeted him if he were alive today. A documentary about him was described as rough.
The Playboy Mansion was listed at $200 million originally, with current asking price at $100 million. The property includes 5 acres in Brentwood, 12 bedrooms, and 21 bathrooms. The sale originally required the new owner to allow 89-year-old Hugh Hefner to stay in the house. The son took over the business but the mansion sale included this unusual condition.
The group visited the Playboy Mansion for fights but left without seeing any explicit content, describing it as a rented location for professional events. They consumed edibles before watching the fights. Earlier visits to Elvis's house revealed outdated technology including four TVs for watching every channel. Steven Seagal's house was speculated to be similarly outdated.
Before marijuana legalization, medical dispensaries required licenses and were located in areas like Englewood. One dispensary was robbed and a doctor was shot, leading Rogan to stop going there. The incident involved a known employee being shot during the robbery.
Larry Flynt was shot and paralyzed, which is why he used a wheelchair. He passed away in 2021. A movie about him featured Courtney Love and Norm Macdonald. Flynt was known as a free speech advocate who faced obscenity charges. A white supremacist who murdered 16 people between 1978-1980 and shot 22 people across 10 states was responsible for the assassination attempt on Flynt, motivated by racist jokes in Hustler magazine.
Pop-up ads on websites make users not want to buy advertised products, with the X button press being described as making users block the whole page. The group discussed the decline of the magazine industry due to OnlyFans and free porn availability.
When magazines were the primary source of adult content, erections could not be shown - they had to appear limp. This restriction existed even as VHS tapes allowed actual porn viewing. Playboy was considered classy showing only bush, while Hustler featured more explicit content with women spreading themselves and being sprayed with water. The first magazine found in the woods as a child featured a male prostitute story with non-erect genitalia despite explicit situations.
In the 1960s, saying certain words could result in jail time under obscenity laws. By the 1980s, magazines still couldn't show erections despite other explicit content being permitted. The discussion noted how dramatically society has changed regarding sexual content restrictions over recent decades.
Several conservative states are implementing restrictions that make it difficult to access certain content online, including adult material. Even VPNs sometimes fail to bypass these restrictions. There's a noticeable north-south divide in the United States regarding these policies, with the Mason-Dixon line representing a cultural and political boundary.
Texas is considering restrictions on THC products. The concern is that banning marijuana will alienate young voters and potentially turn the state blue politically. Young people understand that weed isn't killing anyone, and restricting it could drive them away from conservative politics.
Alec Baldwin's wife famously pretended to be Spanish when she was actually from Boston. There's discussion of people code-switching their accents for political or social advantage. An example was given of a politician in Ecuador running with an indigenous party who was shown wearing a business suit five years earlier, then adopting a ponytail and indigenous appearance for political gain.
A music supervisor for "Queen of Kwe" discussed creating a playlist for the film's sound before shooting began. The supervisor mentioned nepotism in the industry, noting their mother was also involved in the project.
The Beatles famously sang with American accents despite being from Liverpool and Manchester. People from those regions don't normally speak with the accents heard in Beatles songs. This was compared to people who adopt different speaking patterns for performance or social reasons.
Patty Pimblett submitted Ben Wasandi with a guillotine choke on the first shot after calling it. The submission was notable because Pimblett appeared to be having a party on his walk to the cage, dancing and celebrating, but flipped a switch once inside the octagon to become completely serious and focused.
Patty Pimblett gains significant weight between fights, up to 60 pounds. This was compared to other fighters like Ricky Hatton who would also "blow up" between bouts. Despite the weight gain, Pimblett is deceptively big when standing next to others.
Patty Pimblett performed a previously unseen submission in the UFC - a dar choke with legs over the top, using the right foot to flex forward and hold the opponent's arm in place while the left foot presses down on the back. The move combines elements of a Peruvian necktie and dar choke. It's being called either the "padlock" or "pad tie." Another fighter recently replicated the exact same submission in a different MMA fight.
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In the pad tie submission, the right leg hooks the bicep where it meets the crook of the elbow, locking the arm in place. The left arm becomes useless because it cannot reach the grip point. This leaves the opponent defending with only one hand against two arms and one leg wrapped around their neck.
Eddie Bravo named a move the "Jew Claw" during a naming session. The spelling was changed from "Ju" to "Jew" for the name. One of Bravo's students used a move called "crackhead control" during a UFC fight that needed to be explained during Fox commentary.
Moti Hornstein was an Israeli special forces and Krav Maga practitioner who fought in early UFC events. He fought Don Fry and other big fighters but was beaten by wrestlers due to his smaller size and lack of wrestling background. Tiger Schulman runs elite MMA gyms and has developed top-level fighters including Shane Bergos.
At UFC 14, Mark Kerr defeated Moti Hornstein. Kerr was significantly larger and was reportedly on steroids that could only be obtained in Mexico. The fight demonstrated how gi-based fighting would change UFC dynamics due to the additional grabbing surfaces provided by the uniform.
Rogan was tricked into doing one UFC commentary gig for Fox when the organization was hemorrhaging money. He did UFC 37.5 as a favor to Dana White, which led to doing 15 more events for free. He received a Rolex as compensation for the unpaid work.
Celebrity boxing events featured Tanya Harding fighting Doug Stanhope on "The Man Show." Harding could actually fight, while Stanhope held back to make it entertaining. Stanhope was smoking cigarettes between rounds. The ring was notably small for these events.
Aaron Carter fought former basketball player Lamar Odum in a celebrity boxing match. The weight difference was approximately 80 pounds, with Odum being significantly larger. The fight was described as sad, with Carter appearing desperate for money after his fame declined.
Slap fighting pays relatively low amounts, around $18,000 per fight, making it a desperate option for those needing money. The format is described as particularly sad when participants are fighting purely for financial reasons.
A homeless man leg-kicked Jeremiah during a street confrontation outside a club. The homeless man used effective Muay Thai-style leg kicks, causing Jeremiah to immediately back down from the confrontation.
Perez Hilton was hospitalized after cutting himself, though there was speculation about whether the wounds were real or for attention. He holds the world record for the largest selling-out show of all time.
Life in England is described as rough due to strong anti-immigrant sentiment. Finding an apartment has been extremely difficult, with seven rejections in two months. Requirements include three years of UK rental history, which creates barriers for new immigrants. There's discussion about the difference between legal immigrants and those entering without paperwork who receive services more easily.
Mark offers Shane an apartment for one year for free in Tokyo. The apartment is a nice two-bedroom in a gated or guarded building on the 39th floor of a tall thin building. Mark mentions he has real estate and is rich. Shane admits he doesn't have any money. Mark suggests Shane could work at the Mothership once a week getting 80% of the door and start doing the road in America.
Shane discusses going through all the paperwork for a visa to England and needing Francis Foster to be his guarantor. The British authorities didn't trust his American money because he's freelance with no actual boss or employer. They saw his first Netflix special "Amazing Racist" and it didn't help his case. Jimmy Carr wrote his visa letter. Shane has been turned down by seven apartments.
The group shares bottles of beer, specifically light IPAs. Mark bought three Tottenham tickets but won't attend now. Shane mentions he wants to go to jail because he talks too much. Mark references Josh Hokit and conspiracy theories about Michelle Obama being a man on the White House lawn. Shane has a new bit about Muslim drivers and female drivers.
Mark mentions Manchester United and invites Shane to the Derby on December 5th. They debate the pronunciation of "Derby" - Mark says it should be pronounced "Darby" while Shane pronounced it as spelled. Mark apologizes and admits he was wrong about the pronunciation.
Mark discusses taking nicotine the previous night, describing it as a rush that wasn't good. He couldn't think straight and his legs wouldn't stop moving. He mentions taking literally 20 of those over the course of a night and then trying to go to bed. He listens to Annie Jacobson's book every night about nuclear war scenarios.
Mark describes Annie Jacobson's book on nuclear war as the scariest book he's ever read. The new one is on biological war and discusses how easy it would be to ruin everything. Mark mentions Russia and China are making crazy stuff in labs, including gain of function research where they're making viruses more transmissible and more deadly. Mark states that taxpayer dollars are funding this warfare research.
Mark discusses the Soviets creating a bubonic plague where they spliced in something that makes you feel euphoric for the first 24 hours, like ecstasy, so people would go out and talk to others and spread the disease. The plague is 100% deadly. Mark states that whoever did this should be executed.
Mark discusses Fauci knowing that women were getting miscarriages and lying about it months after expressing privately in a text message about cytokine storms causing miscarriages with the second dose. Fauci publicly promoted the idea of pregnant women getting vaccinated when he knew there was an issue. Mark personally knows five people who got pregnant during the pandemic, got vaccinated, and had miscarriages.
Mark describes Fauci as a sociopath and monster. He discusses Fauci giving people ACT (a chemotherapy medication discontinued because it was killing people quicker than cancer) in the 1980s when they had AIDS. Arthur Ashe didn't even have symptoms and was given ACT, dying in about 6 months. Mark mentions that 80% plus of all COVID positives were false positives due to PCR testing being used improperly, as Carrie Mullis warned it wasn't meant for detecting actual infections.
Mark discusses Biden using autopen (a rubber stamp signature) for pardons, including pardoning Fauci for 10 years. Trump announced that autopen signatures don't count and he's making them null and void. Mark mentions Biden pardoned more people than anybody ever. Mark notes that if Trump overturns Biden's pardons, there will be a lot of people coming for justice at the end of Trump's presidency unless a Republican wins in 2028.
Mark discusses government corruption, noting that Trump has made billions in crypto. Mark mentions Trump's sons are involved in business deals connected to things Trump put in place. Mark states the crypto stuff is shady but legal. Mark discusses how crypto could be used as a sneaky way to pay people off through coin investments from anonymous overseas accounts.
Mark discusses Donald Trump reporting more than $1.4 billion in crypto-related income from 2025, the first year of his second term. Mark questions who's really investing in Trump coin and whether it's a way to pay people off through coin investments rather than direct payments.
Congressional salaries of $150,000 represent only a small fraction of actual income for many politicians. Additional earnings come through business deals, donations, and other financial arrangements. D. Rosa, who previously worked for the Senate, described how politicians receive additional compensation through various channels beyond their official salary.
The Dodgers have been accused of buying up top players. Otani has been performing exceptionally well in recent years and is considered by some to be the best player numerically. Wade Boggs was shown in a recent photo looking exceptionally fit despite his advanced age. He successfully beat cancer.
The idea that people should prioritize fitness and testosterone through activities like deadlifts was discussed as an alternative to certain progressive viewpoints. Kumlani was mentioned positively as someone who became notably muscular and is considered a nice person.
A discussion occurred about whether attractive women on stage can be genuinely funny, with the conclusion that there's essentially zero chance. Judy Gold was mentioned as an exception who is genuinely hilarious.
Tim Dylan believes some cuts in a performance were fake, possibly involving paint or other methods to simulate injuries. The performer reportedly wanted police to shoot him and was possibly under the influence of drugs, potentially causing brain damage.
English people mumble in conversation, making them difficult to understand. Scotland and Belfast have particularly difficult-to-understand accents, with Glasgow and Dublin also mentioned. A story was shared about being heckled in Wales by people whose speech was incomprehensible.
Pre-iPhone era bar culture allowed for more spontaneous socializing without cameras or phones documenting everything. A story was shared about meeting someone in Glasgow who declared they'd fight anyone, with the emphasis on willingness rather than winning.
Cell phones and cameras have negatively impacted human connection and people's ability to relax in social settings. Smartphones contain too much valuable content to completely abandon despite their negative effects.
A deliberate reduction in social media use occurred over the past three months. Scrolling through negative content creates feelings of depression and negativity. Reddit hasn't been visited in years, and Twitter is avoided because it shows disturbing content that makes users feel bad.
The speaker's father recently started using Instagram Reels and sends AI-generated dog videos. The speaker sends Larry Bird highlights and John Lynch football highlight videos to maintain connection through shared content.
A football companion podcast concept was discussed involving the speaker, McCusker, Taylor, and Will. The idea would involve watching games together in a similar format to fight companions. The Comedy Store could potentially be used for such events.
Plans were discussed for watching the 1:00 PM, 4:00 PM, and potentially Sunday night football games together. A UT game against Ohio State on September 12th at 6:30 PM was specifically mentioned as a potential viewing opportunity.
A UFC event in LA on September 18th and 19th was discussed as a potential opportunity to take over the Comedy Store. Kanye's Chicago shows on September 3rd and 4th were mentioned as another potential event to attend.
Jakarta and Kazakhstan were mentioned as potential international comedy destinations. The Super Dome in New Orleans was also suggested as a venue option.
A discussion about Jewish tefillin boxes occurred, noting they contain biblical scripture and prayers. The size of the box supposedly correlates with religious devotion. Ancient Chinese sculptures depicting similar head boxes were mentioned, suggesting possible historical Jewish presence in China.
The Pope's traditional attire was discussed, including the transition from the previous Pope's use of the Popemobile to the current Pope's more egalitarian approach. Various religious headwear was examined, including comparisons between different religious garments.
Multiple podcast episodes featured elaborate costumes including furries, Tesla robots, elves, plague masks, and demons. A Halloween episode involved dressing identically as Batman and surrounding anyone dressed as Joker.
A photo supposedly showing Tyler Robinson was determined to be manipulated. The image was altered by shrinking a larger person to match Robinson's thin build, with background car proportions revealing the distortion.
Tyler Robinson was identified as the individual who supposedly shot Charlie Kirk. The conversation occurred while Joe Rogan was in Guatemala, where locals asked for his thoughts on Charlie Kirk's death.
Erica Kirk was described as dressing in all black with a black hat, resembling a Navy SEAL, appearing serious and intense. The group compared her entrance to professional wrestlers like Randy Orton, Goldberg, and The Undertaker.
There's significant controversy within the Navy SEAL community regarding who actually killed Osama Bin Laden. While Rob O'Neill claims he did it, some team members connected to the mission suggest he may have shot a man who was already dead. The group noted that all team members likely fired shots once the target was down, stating "if you were on the team and I had already shot him, you would run in and shoot them too."
Intelligence agencies identified Bin Laden by measuring his shadow, knowing his height was 6'5". They reportedly knew his location well before the attack, with strategic decisions made about timing the operation.
Reports indicate Bin Laden used his wife and children as human shields, throwing them in front of gunfire. The group contrasted this with Abu al-Baghdadi, who grabbed two children and ran into a tunnel before detonating explosives.
Donald Trump posted that the United States now controls the Strait of Hormuz. The group noted Trump tweets about this frequently, suggesting it's a distraction tactic while actual negotiations occur behind the scenes.
Truth Social's parent company announced in July it would offer subscribers early access to market-moving posts from Trump and other platform users for up to $100,000 per month. This allows subscribers to see tweets before they're posted publicly, potentially enabling them to bet on market movements based on the content.
The group discussed various cryptocurrency schemes, including the "Marshall Rogan Coin" featuring Joe Rogan's dog Marshall. Fighters were allegedly paid to mention the coin during post-fight interviews, creating a pump-and-dump scheme. UFC eventually stopped the practice.
Joe's father spends time alone in a dark room after his wife leaves for vacation, looking at Instagram Reels on his phone. He calls Joe to say "I just want you to know you're a good guy" when feeling lonely.
The South Korean soccer team allegedly spent thousands of dollars on sexual services for foreign referees to gain favorable treatment. The group noted this was a bargain compared to potential betting profits.
South Korea is credited with creating Taekwondo, Samsung phones, Squid Game, Parasite, and K-pop. However, the country faces severe demographic challenges with extremely low birth rates.
Korean work ethic was described as exceptional, with examples of individuals training for medical school and national Taekwondo team simultaneously, sleeping only one hour per night. The culture emphasizes intense work with no concept of taking time off to "find yourself."
South Korea performs significant amounts of double eyelid surgery to create "round eyes," reflecting cultural preferences.
Psy performed Gangnam Style with dramatic stage entrances, including jumping from the floor into an enormous crowd while dressed in a marching band uniform.
The group discussed Turnstile as a newer hardcore band from Baltimore, noting a resurgence in rock music among younger audiences. They observed that rap has declined on charts, with theories attributing this to reduced US government funding for anti-government rappers overseas.
British beer is traditionally served at room temperature, not chilled like American beer. Guinness is an exception and served cold. The group noted that many popular beers in England are actually Irish imports.
Drake returned to the top charts with new releases. Morgan Wallen has two songs in the Billboard top 10. Stick Season by Noah Kahan has remained in the top 10 for an extended period.
Rick Springfield, at age 74-76, continues to perform shirtless with high energy, singing "Jessie's Girl" with enthusiasm comparable to when the song was first written. The group noted his physical fitness and performance quality at his age.
Brian Johnson is described as falling apart while doing weird drugs and blood transfusions. He's also vegan, with the group advising against legumes and beans for protein and instead recommending meat.
The group discusses a Trump rally video from four weeks ago where Trump, in his 70s, shows great enthusiasm without half-assing it, comparing it favorably to the wheelchairs in the crowd.
Ari Shaffir mentions being incredibly lonely in London and needing the current gathering. The group jokes about him living in the jungle for a year and offers free rent for a year if he moves, mentioning a place with a gym and spa.
Ari reveals he was in an official Drake video two months ago, with the group expressing surprise and calling it sick.
Ari just got a 5-year visa for England. The group debates whether he should stay, with Joe Rogan suggesting scenarios that would entice Ari to move to Austin, including a free apartment.
The discussion covers England's food quality, with Ari noting some of the best Indian food he's had. The group mentions that shows end early there because people day drink starting at 6 PM.
Ari is told he looks terrible and like a homeless guy, with jokes about his wife hating his appearance. The group continues pressuring him to move back to America.
The group discusses the World Cup run where an executive order kept pubs open late for partying, with games going until 5 AM.
Joe offers to fly Ari out every two months for free to do club shows and hang out. They mention a condo at the club that could be used during the week, with Ari's girlfriend potentially being happy about the arrangement.
The group mentions Hicks, Liry, and Patrice O'Neal who moved to America. Patrice is noted as having died of a Snickers.
Ari mentions he gets pushed back from crowds in England, which is good for him. Shane moved to Austin in April instead of waiting until July. The group suggests Ari could be multi-city for free.
Joe states he doesn't have anything to say to people despite being the number one podcast in the world, saying it just happens naturally.
Joe suggests telling people in England that America is way better. Ari mentions bombing Gaza and Free Palestine sentiments in crowds, noting that England controlled the area before Israel.
Ari discusses being kicked out of Nicaragua because they thought he was a press guy due to his relationship with Joe. They googled "Joe and Ari" and found the podcast, leading to his departure.
The group plans for Ari to come back every couple months starting in winter, with Thursday night shows called "Ari and friends." They discuss September 4th as a potential date.
Ari mentions having diarrhea for 5 months from a parasite he got in Brazil from street meat and drinking river water. Joe suggests ivermectin as an anti-parasitical treatment.
Joe recounts buying ivermectin from India during COVID, purchasing a case of it. He mentions studies supporting its use that have come out since.
The group discusses healthcare access, with Ari noting you have to wait a year for a doctor in England. Joe offers to send Ari to his doctor and mentions that with money, healthcare is awesome in America.
Joe recommends eating only meat to cure diarrhea. Ari mentions trying the carnivore diet with Matt for a month, experiencing delirium and extreme tiredness in the first couple weeks.
Ari mentions his Italian heritage makes him want spaghetti, pasta, and pizza, holding him back from the carnivore diet. He had a steak and cheese the night before.
The group highly recommends a Philly cheesesteak food truck in Austin run by young guys, describing it as phenomenal with the right amount of spice. They brought food to the green room.
Joe describes the club experience where whatever you want gets delivered - steaks, pizza, margaritas within 20 minutes. You can pour your own drinks with various mixers available.
The group mentions that the pizza place next door isn't great, with homeless people turning down slices. They considered putting in a higher-level pizza place.
Joe likes being in the middle of Sixth Street and putting the club there because it brings people spending money, helping surrounding businesses like the pizza place and Mexican joint.
The group recommends food trucks on Fifth and Fourth streets by the creek, mentioning a legit burger place. They warn about Taco House potentially causing diarrhea.
Ari got his parasite in Brazil on his last day from street meat and drinking river water. The group jokes about lettuce being bad and signs for anal parasites on Twitter.
Ari ate so much in Italy he almost died, noting you can eat bread there but only so much before pushing yourself to gluttony.
Ari compares his pizza consumption to Shane's beer drinking, noting he can reach strange points of overconsumption.
The group discusses James Gandolfini's eating habits and death, with his receipt being public showing lobster, lobster claws, and everything on the menu.
When Joe first got his development deal, he was eating lobster and steak every night and treating everyone. He had $150,000 at 25 years old after being poor his whole life.
Joe's business manager thought he had a gambling problem due to his spending, but it was actually from eating out lavishly. Joe was playing pool but clarified he wasn't gambling heavily.
Joe recounts a comedian at the Montreal Comedy Festival who was hyper-aggressive and kept touching him, requiring Joe to threaten physical violence to stop the advances.
A story is shared about a gay comedian who got beat up in Hawaii after hitting on a regular guy while drunk.
A story is told about being on a party bus in high school where a guy gave someone a full stroke while they were being blown by a girl, with the guy claiming it was a goof.
The guy from the party bus incident is now a Marine.
The group discusses the Funny Farm comedy club in Youngstown, Ohio, which was connected to another club with a hotel.
Comedian describes a venue setup where the comedy club connects to a nightclub, with music playing during the late show making it impossible to perform properly.
A headlining gig at The Funny Farm had only three people in the audience. The owner offered a meal, recommending swordfish as amazing. When the comedian was broke, this seemed exotic. The owner also recommended wine that pairs well with swordfish. After consuming a bottle and a half of wine, swordfish, and a couple beers, the comedian received a bill for $380 out of $400 earned for the weekend.
Multiple stories shared about club owners not paying comedians properly. One incident involved a mob-connected club owner in New Haven, Connecticut who paid less than agreed and suggested the comedian should be happy with what they got. Another story involves Joe List attempting to get paid when a club owner placed a gun on the table.
A club owner in New Haven, Connecticut known as a mob guy pulled off his dress shoe with a wooden heel and beat a heckling drunk man in the face with it, causing blood to spray everywhere. The incident occurred at Joker Wild club, which was described as very mob-run. The owner later tried to hire the comedian again even after being on News Radio.
A gig at a Chinese restaurant in Western Massachusetts where audience members would come on stage during performances to take selfies, and people would wrap up their food while comedians performed. Norman and the comedian were the only ones who stayed for the show.
A story about comedian Brian Frasier, a large Jewish man who didn't look Jewish, who was present when a club owner used the expression "I'm not trying to jew you down" while getting paid. Frasier went crazy and started screaming at the owner, calling him anti-Semitic.
Discussion of historical racism against Italian, Irish, and other European immigrants in America. Italians were considered brown people, while Irish were viewed as poor and lower class despite being white. The conversation covers how different European immigrant groups faced discrimination and violence.
Extensive discussion of Ulysses S. Grant's life and military career. Grant attended West Point and fought in the Mexican-American War alongside Robert E. Lee. After the war, he was sent west, developed a drinking problem, and was kicked out of the army. He returned home, freed slaves despite having no money, and worked as a clerk at his father's general store.
When the Civil War broke out, Grant was working as a clerk at a grocery store register. Within four years, he went from clerk to controlling the entire Union Army, then became president. Grant was known for being great on horseback and using tactics like riding on the side of his horse during battle.
Discussion of how young men viewed war romantically based on their grandparents' and fathers' stories. The country was only 100 years old during the Civil War. FDR had four sons who all went to war, demonstrating commitment to the cause.
Conversation about Stalin's brutality and the book "Bloodlands" about the Eastern Front. Discussion of the Holodomor in Ukraine as one of history's worst events. Comments on communism making a comeback and the distinction between communism and social programs like free healthcare and education.
Discussion of corruption in homeless services in Los Angeles. The CEO of a homeless division made $1.6 million over two years while living in Hawaii. California spent $24 billion on homelessness with no improvement, and Governor Newsom vetoed an audit of the spending.
Grant was brought east because other Union generals were afraid of Robert E. Lee. Grant's key insight was recognizing that Lee was just as scared as he was. Grant understood they had more men and could win through attrition. Sherman and Grant were close friends who treated the South as traitors rather than gentlemen.
Jamie received a sword given to Grant when he took over the federal army in 1864, which sold at auction. The speaker owns Sherman's map with pencil marks from his march through South Carolina. Discussion of various historical artifacts including OJ Simpson's rushing trophy and golf clubs acquired at auction.
OJ Samson is discussed as a tall, handsome man from San Francisco. The conversation covers Police Academy and Naked Gun films, with confusion about which film featured certain actors. The Naked Gun is described as a spin-off. The question is raised whether a movie like Naked Gun could be made today, with the conclusion that it would require independent financing.
Samurel and the speaker wrote a raunchy 80s style comedy and secured financing for an October shoot. Theo and David Spade recently completed a similar project. Netflix is mentioned as having minimal creative interference, allowing creators to work independently.
The production of Tires season is discussed, with the process described as taking three months. Gilly handles much of the workload while McKver writes extensively. Netflix has not changed any content. A 2005 Netflix special is referenced, which may have been among the first Netflix shows, filmed at the Improv in Tempe.
The book "She Comes First" by Ian Kerner is discussed as a bestseller with 250,000 copies sold. The book covers techniques for sexual activity, with specific mentions of timing guidelines (minimum 15 minutes, potentially up to 45 minutes). The speaker expresses discomfort with detailed discussions of the book's content.
Soda appears in the current season of Tires. Ron White is not appearing this season. Bobby Lee has one episode this season. Foley and Stav are mentioned as cast members. Foley is described as exceptionally funny and an excellent person to spend time with.
Foley and Chris Cotton would fist fight at the Raven Lounge in Philadelphia. The environment is described as everyone being on cocaine, with fights breaking out between audience members. A story is shared about Foley bringing home a sex worker while on cocaine, bouncing on a yoga ball in an empty room while smoking a cigarette, with the cherry from the cigarette popping the yoga ball.
Jeremiah Love touchdown highlights are requested to be displayed. The speaker mentions being drunk and requests a beer. The first hour of recording is suggested to be deleted.
Bodega Cat whiskey is praised and recommended. The speaker admits to stealing a bottle from the studio during a previous visit to New York. The concept of calling oneself an immigrant in London is discussed as amusing.
The speaker enjoys pointing out that "soccer" originated from British "association football" terminology when discussing the sport with British people. College football is stated to be superior to soccer.
Harry Kane is discussed as a soccer player who spits when talking. Jude Bellingham is mentioned. The speaker expresses preference for watching football highlights over soccer discussion.
A Barry Sanders football highlight is shown, featuring an unusual move. The speaker notes never having seen that particular move before.
The speaker mentions shooting arrows for two hours, claiming their arm doesn't get tired due to constant MLB The Show practice. Euro mounts are discussed as a method of preserving animal skulls and antlers. The lethality of bow and arrow against humans is confirmed as 100% effective.
The Northman is discussed as a film the speaker initially didn't enjoy in theaters but later appreciated upon rewatching. Robert Eggers is identified as the director who also made The Witch and Nosferatu. Nosferatu is described as the greatest vampire movie of all time, surpassing Bram Stoker's Dracula.
The Lighthouse is mentioned as a fun film. The Witch is described as excellent. Obsession is discussed as one of the best movies, with the first half being particularly funny in depicting a nightmare girlfriend scenario.
Specific scenes from Obsession are described, including a scene where a character attempts to go to "guys night" but his girlfriend insists on joining. The slow build to insanity and a memorable car scene are highlighted. The female lead's performance is praised, with mention that she became widely recognized after the film.
A night at the Comedy Cellar is described involving Kanye West, Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock, Louis C.K., and other comedians. The group walked together from 6th Avenue to the cellar. Kanye played unreleased tracks at the venue. The experience is described as surreal with 27 people witnessing an extraordinary comedy lineup.
Chappelle hosted and performed for seven minutes, introducing comedians with humorous descriptions of their controversies. The show featured Shane Gillis, Louis C.K., and Chris Rock. Kanye stood on stage briefly but did not perform. The event occurred in May in Los Angeles.
Kanye explained his past behavior as resulting from mental health issues rather than specific targeting of any group. He mentioned that the speaker has material about the topic. The conversation included discussion of playing in Israel and Saudi Arabia.
The Saudi Arabia comedy festival is discussed, with the speaker being the only participant who performed despite restrictions. The contract prohibited jokes about government, trans issues, and gay topics. The speaker performed their regular material anyway and received a positive response. The audience had never experienced live comedy before.
The speaker performed Muslim jokes including references to getting high and stoning. The crowd response was described as the best ever experienced. Tony Hinchcliffe declined to participate despite being offered significant money. The right-wing comedians were the ones who declined participation.
Chelsea Handler's performance at the Saudi festival is mentioned positively. The speaker notes the difference between her public statements and private behavior, observing that people often criticize Joe Rogan publicly but behave differently in person.
D-Roza's Netflix special is described as excellent with no humor involved. The speaker is characterized as Egyptian and adopted. D-Roza is noted as an excellent drinking companion who enjoys KFC.
A story is shared about eating KFC in Penn Station at 4 AM with homeless individuals present. D-Roza is described as the Anthony Bourdain of KFC, having tried all locations and declaring Penn Station the best. D-Roza is noted for always being available to drink.
Voodoo Ranger IPAs are discussed and praised. The speaker mentions bonging a Voodoo Ranger as a birthday activity. Bert Kreischer's sobriety is confirmed as ongoing due to serious health issues including blood clots.
Conor McGregor stopped drinking alcohol and switched back to it. He is promoting Black Forge stout. The speaker will turn 60 soon.
Hot Ones is a show where participants eat hot wings while answering questions. One participant was hung over during the appearance. Milk helps with the heat. Raw milk is recommended because it has more cream to coat the throat. Raw milk can be obtained at farmers markets from the Amish.
The Amish do not force their lifestyle on others and are self-sufficient. They do not vaccinate their children. The only autistic individuals in Amish communities are adopted children who were already vaccinated before adoption. There is discussion about whether non-raw milk consumption might relate to autism rates. The Amish do not visit doctors regularly.
The speaker grew up near Lancaster, Ohio, next to an Amish community. As teenagers, they would drive by Amish buggies and play loud music while making comments. There is discussion of Rumspringa, where Amish youth can leave the community to experience the outside world, sometimes for extended periods before deciding whether to return permanently.
Amish men are described as extremely strong from manual labor like building barns. They have distinctive facial features and traditional haircuts. Mug shots of arrested Amish men were referenced to show their unique appearance.
Religious groups like the Amish have traditions of wearing beards without mustaches. This practice appears across different religious communities.
During a comedy gig in Western Massachusetts, the group encountered Mennonite women at a rest stop. Ari Shaffir was particularly awkward and aggressive in questioning them about their religious practices. The women were wearing traditional pilgrim-style clothing.
Luke Combs demonstrated exceptional ability to shotgun beers quickly. There was discussion about rolling cigarettes, with one participant preferring to roll their own with filters they made themselves.
The Comanche controlled Texas and Oklahoma territory, making it nearly impossible for settlers to pass through safely. Empire of the Summer Moon is recommended as an excellent book about Comanche history. Quanah Parker was the last Comanche chief; his mother Cynthia Ann Parker was kidnapped at age 9 by the Comanche after they killed her family.
Early settlers were often given large land grants but faced extreme dangers from Native American attacks. Many families were killed within months of settling. Taylor Sheridan is developing a show based on Empire of the Summer Moon.
1883 was praised as the most accurate depiction of settler experiences traveling across the country in wagons through Indian territory. The series showed the hardships faced by Danish and other immigrants attempting to settle.
Daniel Boone was described as an ultimate badass who founded Boonesville as a fort. His daughter was kidnapped, and he tracked down and killed her captors to rescue her. He was later kidnapped himself while making salt but escaped by walking only on rocks to avoid leaving footprints. He warned the fort of an impending attack, leading to a nine-day siege before militia arrived.
The group expressed gratitude for living in modern times rather than in dangerous historical periods like Mongolia in 1200.
Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast series Wrath of the Genghis Khan covers the Mongol leader extensively. Genghis Khan was born with a blood clot in his fist, which his mother interpreted as a sign he would become a monster. He killed his brother over stolen fish using a bow and arrow. Mongolians were known for their archery skills.
There is speculation about Mitch McConnell's health status, with reports suggesting he may not be fully functional. Lindsey Graham is also mentioned as potentially compromised.
Ancient Greek and Roman societies had different concepts of sexuality than modern categories. There was no single neutral word equivalent to the modern term "gay" - sexuality was described through acts and relationships rather than fixed orientations. The Sacred Band of Thebes was composed of 150 male couples. Spartans were expected to marry women and produce children despite same-sex relationships existing.
In some Papua New Guinea tribes, young boys were separated from families at age 6 and paired with older males for sexual relationships. The cultural belief was that consuming semen would make boys grow strong. Christian missionaries stopped these practices.
Iran has high rates of transgender individuals because being gay is illegal, but transitioning allows people to have relationships that would otherwise be prohibited.
The group discussed plans to continue drinking, get dinner, and attend comedy shows. One participant mentioned having only 2 hours of sleep the previous night due to nicotine pouch use.
Nicotine pouches can prevent sleep even when tolerance is developed. One speaker consumed 20 nicotine pouches in one evening during a social gathering and remained wide awake with a noticeable heartbeat upon returning home. Others in New York commonly carry the round containers in their pockets, with men aged 20-50 frequently using them. The speaker who used 20 pouches decided to stop after experiencing the effects. Some claim nicotine is the most addictive substance, though one speaker reported no withdrawal symptoms when going on vacation without them.
Caffeine was identified as the only substance that created genuine addiction. In Los Angeles, there were "death sodas" sold in liquor stores containing high caffeine levels with skulls on blue packaging and hot sauce. The speaker became addicted, purchasing them by the case while writing. Attempting to quit resulted in severe headaches, leading to the conclusion to continue use rather than stop.
Fidel Castro was told to quit smoking 50 cigars daily and responded by making one giant cigar instead. The speaker was corrected that this story actually refers to Winston Churchill. Cuban cigars are no longer considered the best due to Chinese acquisition, which cut costs and quality to meet demand from a billion people wanting authentic Cuban cigars. Dominican and Nicaraguan cigars are currently considered superior. Fakes are common in the Cuban cigar market.
Human sacrifice has occurred throughout history with 100% certainty. The question remains whether it continues today. The most forbidden act throughout history is considered child sacrifice. Native Americans threw virgins into volcanoes as sacrifice. The speaker questions why virgins specifically were chosen for sacrifice, suggesting people might have had sex with them beforehand. Virgin sacrifice is noted as more common in mythic and literary motifs than documented historical ritual. Evidence for victims chosen specifically for sexual virginity is sparse.
Dave Chappelle had a notable bit about AIDS origins involving someone having sex with a monkey, emphasizing how difficult that would be. In parts of Africa around 2010, there was a belief that having sex with a virgin could cure AIDS, leading to targeting of 10-year-olds who were all virgins.
Aztecs sacrificed between 20,000 and 80,000 people during the consecration of the Temple of Tenochtitlan. A 16th century account by Duran documented 80,400 people sacrificed over four days during the 1487 rededication of Templo Mayor. Other sources cite different numbers: Codex Telleriano-Remensis shows 4,000, while another chronicle gives 72,000. Historians consider these figures doubtful and not established counts.
The Aztecs did not build the temples and pyramids they occupied. They moved into the "land where the gods were born" and found existing architecture covered by jungle that they had to chop down. The structures were built by unknown people up to a thousand years earlier. Cities are still being discovered, with some appearing as mountains when viewed from freeways.
The Spanish arrival ended Aztec human sacrifice practices. The movie Apocalypto depicted this period. Mexico was called something else before becoming Mexico in 1820 as the United Mexican States. Mexico owned Texas from 1821 to 1836. President James K. Polk is credited with acquiring significant territory including California.
Andrew Jackson acquired two-thirds of the country. Simon Bolivar took over all of Latin America during the South American Revolution in the 1800s, with generals Sucre and Santander serving under him. Polk is considered a top-five president for his territorial acquisitions.
Barry Seals was a CIA pilot flying drugs into Mena, Arkansas. The movie American Made depicted this, though Tom Cruise was considered too handsome compared to the real Seals. Two kids were killed after witnessing a cocaine drop - they found cocaine with parachutes dropped from planes, and were subsequently stabbed and placed on train tracks to cover up the incident. This led to the discovery of the drug operation. Seals was going to turn state's evidence and testify when he was murdered, found with George Bush's phone number in his pocket.
Bill Clinton, as governor of Arkansas, consistently denied knowledge of the Mena drug operations. Federal investigations did not produce evidence implicating him. The American Made movie depicted Clinton getting Seals out of jail, and no lawsuit resulted from this portrayal.
Lyndon B. Johnson would take shits with the stall door open while talking to the press. Trump reportedly drinks 12-14 Diet Cokes daily. Trump turned 80, with his birthday celebrated at the White House during a UFC event in June.
One speaker owns a Maybach but finds it embarrassing, noting it's designed for having a driver. The car was damaged when a tree fell on it. Tracy Morgan made his money on craps and owns multiple luxury cars including a Lamborghini Roadster, driving them through Times Square. Another speaker has a 2002 BMW with no air conditioning, registration, or insurance, describing themselves as "riding dirty."
One speaker lacks health insurance and has gone years without issues, saving significant money. Only 10% of people denied insurance claims follow up, which forms the business model's foundation of denying claims hoping people give up. Private healthcare costs Americans more than public healthcare would. The speaker struggles with paperwork and needs assistance getting organized.
Teddy Roosevelt implemented the "Square Deal" with three C's: consumer protection, control of giant corporations, and conservation of natural resources. He broke up monopolies and created national parks. Modern corporate and super PAC influence in politics makes similar reforms unlikely without extreme measures. The system is considered too entrenched with dirty money to change through normal means.
Flock cameras are AI-powered surveillance cameras installed across the country, with hundreds of thousands deployed nationwide within the past two years. The Upper West Side of Manhattan is notably devoid of these cameras, which Mark Andre previously discussed as an investor in the technology. While half the area is Central Park, the discussion suggests the absence may relate to the wealthy demographic and Jewish population in the area. The Upper East Side is speculated to have similarly few Flock cameras despite comparable wealth. Security cameras in general have proliferated throughout New York City, making shoplifting increasingly difficult due to widespread surveillance.
NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals are negatively impacting college football, contributing to the formation of super conferences and overall disruption of the sport. Basketball has seen players throwing games due to rampant gambling activity, with specific markets on rebounds and other statistics driving suspicious behavior. Poly Market allows betting on virtually any event, including speculation about when the next Protect Our Parks episode will occur.
Former Congressman George Santos faces DOJ investigation for allegedly betting against his own attendance at a State of the Union speech through an insider trading scheme on a prediction market. Santos, described as a "chubby gay guy" who lied extensively about his background including claiming Jewish heritage while admitting he merely "acts like a Jew," exemplifies broader concerns about gambling's influence on public figures and the inability to monitor what people are betting on.
The internet has fundamentally altered society by turning people against each other, with tech oligarchs controlling narratives that shape the economy, social systems, and culture. These corporations wield enormous influence over politicians due to their wealth, creating unprecedented manipulation by a small group of people. The suggestion to teach people to stay off the internet conflicts with the reality that regulation is needed despite general opposition to government oversight.
San Francisco has experienced significant deterioration over 8-10 years, with visible homelessness and urban decay accelerating during 2016-2017 when tent encampments became permitted, then exploding during the pandemic. The new mayor is attempting to reverse decline by promoting live music venues, patrolling streets, and clearing homeless encampments. The city has always had some homeless population dating back to the Reagan administration's changes to mental institutions, but the current scale is unprecedented. Despite problems, San Francisco retains appeal with walkability, excellent Chinese and Italian food in North Beach, and notable tiki bars.
Los Angeles County has approximately 73,000 homeless people, with 45,000 in the city proper, far exceeding official estimates of 4,400. Skid Row has expanded from its historical boundaries to encompass 55 blocks, though it has existed since the 1930s when LA's total population was around 10,000 homeless. California spent $4 billion on homelessness with no measurable improvement. Homeless individuals migrate to cities with favorable weather and services, as sleeping outdoors is viable without freezing temperatures.
East Coast homeless populations, primarily heroin users, tend to be less aggressive and disappear during winter months. West Coast homeless, often methamphetamine users, exhibit more chaotic behavior including screaming and chasing people. Salt Lake City experienced rapid deterioration from being among America's cleanest cities to having aggressive homeless populations within a short timeframe. New York homeless demonstrate more "moves" and street smarts compared to other regions.
Rumors suggest fentanyl is being tested on dogs to determine lethal doses before distribution to humans. Neither political party adequately addresses homelessness or fentanyl crises, partly because substantial financial interests profit from maintaining the status quo. The scale of urban decay across major cities represents a relatively recent phenomenon that requires decades to reverse after years of policy failures.
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