Joe Rogan Experience #2555 - Ron White
In a Nutshell
Ron White and Joe Rogan discuss comedy career development, emphasizing that years of road experience and preparation are essential before seeking exposure like Kill Tony. They criticize government overreach on issues like marijuana legalization, abortion restrictions, and regulatory policies while questioning religious certainty and political influence by money. White also details his 40-year comedy career, recent Switzerland trip, and the importance of maintaining physical fitness through unconventional training methods.
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Joe Rogan and Ron White discuss crowd work as a comedy skill. White does not allow his opening acts to engage in crowd work because it creates problems where audiences feel they can interact with him directly, which he does not permit. White previously used crowd work as a time filler when he had 41 minutes of material but needed to fill 45 minutes. Once he developed sufficient jokes, he stopped using crowd work.
Rogan notes that crowd work relies on strong improvisational skills under pressure, making spontaneous responses funnier than prepared material. White mentions that Rick Ingram excels at crowd work and can seamlessly blend improvised material with built-in material that he pulls out during performances. Big Jay Oakerson is also skilled at crowd work, particularly in holding moments after someone says something ridiculous, and he maintains strong storytelling abilities alongside his crowd work.
White observes young comics at clubs stating they need to work on their crowd work, but he advises against prioritizing this over developing actual jokes. He references Pat O'Neal's joke about this topic as hilarious. Pat O'Neal appeared on White's show after being featured on Kill Tony and is described as a joke machine.
White discusses a young comedian named Brent Reed from Alabama who recently received a golden ticket on Kill Tony. Reed had previously bombed on the show but returned after moving to Austin and building up his act, demonstrating significant improvement. Reed now opens for White and was surprised when White offered him the opportunity after seeing him perform.
Dedric Flynn is mentioned as another comedian who struggled in Atlanta before moving to Austin and succeeding on Kill Tony. White emphasizes that Kill Tony provides great opportunities for comedians who have put in the necessary preparation time, but unprepared comedians will not benefit from the exposure.
Steve Francois, known as "The Comedy Seller," received a golden ticket on Kill Tony. White describes Kill Tony as the greatest platform in comedy history for comedians who have spent 7-10 years developing their craft on the road. The show has launched careers of comedians including Ari Matty, William Montgomery, and Camp Patterson, who now appear on SNL.
White identifies the Blue Collar Comedy Tour as the catalyst for his career breakthrough. Jeff Foxworthy was the established star who shared the stage with White, Ron, and others. White had already been doing standup for 14 years and headlining comedy clubs for 11 years before the tour. He notes that there has not been another comparable tour since.
White stresses there is no substitute for putting in the time developing material. Kill Tony works best for comedians who have already invested years on the road and are prepared for the opportunity. Unprepared comedians face significant setbacks when they fail on the show.
White considers it fortunate that he did not receive early exposure before developing his show. Winning contests or gaining sudden ticket-selling ability without material to back it up creates a "death spiral" for comedians.
At the Comedy Store, the parking lot served as an indicator of success - either expensive cars like Mercedes, Ferrari, Porsche, or Corvette, or very basic cars, with no middle-ground vehicles present.
White attempted to convince Mark Maron to purchase a BMW M3, describing it as a sensible car with carbon ceramic brakes that handles exceptionally well. Maron declined, preferring not to display wealth ostentatiously despite his financial success.
White spent money freely during his successful years, assuming his career could end at any time. He preferred living well during success rather than saving for an uncertain future. He had previously experienced having his car repossessed and being broke, so he chose to enjoy his success while it lasted.
White recently returned from a 20-21 day trip to Lake Como, Verona, and Zermatt, Switzerland, describing the experience as pure relaxation. The trip occurred during 107-degree weather in Texas, with Switzerland experiencing highs of 62 degrees. He particularly enjoyed Switzerland's infrastructure, including trains, auger tunnels through mountains, and gondolas connecting to Italy.
White encountered pay toilets in Switzerland requiring Swiss francs, which would not accept euros or American currency. He eventually discovered credit cards were accepted. He found the system discriminatory against those without the required currency.
White notes Switzerland's famous neutrality and lack of military spending, allowing the country to invest in infrastructure rather than warfare.
White was removed from a Viking cruise ship approximately one year prior after smoking cannabis. The ship's captain confronted him publicly and accused him of lying about where he had been smoking. Despite being directed by hotel staff to smoke on his deck, the captain claimed the smoke entered the ventilation system from his bathroom. White was offered the option to smoke on the top deck after the confrontation.
White brought Cuban cigars to the podcast, noting the legal complexities around their possession in the United States. The conversation covers the history of the Cuban trade embargo and current possession limits, with White indicating these particular cigars were acquired through alternative channels.
Travelers could bring limited Cuban cigars back for personal use until September 2020, when the exemption was removed. Current CBP guidance states that people subject to US jurisdiction may acquire Cuban goods while outside the United States in certain circumstances but may not import Cuban origin tobacco products into the country.
Zeno Davidoff moved his cigar operations from Cuba to the Dominican Republic before the embargo. He moved seeds over there, started plantations, and relocated his rollers. When the embargo happened, Davidoff was the only really good cigar available. The Swiss brand produces cigars in the Dominican Republic.
Cuban cigars are considered a level above other cigars due to generational rollers working in big rolling rooms. Someone sits in front reading books while rollers create classic cigars that smoke and taste gorgeous. Companies have bought other cigar companies just to acquire their rollers and then discontinued the line entirely.
Pre-embargo Cuban cigars rolled and brought into the country before the embargo are legal in America. There's a market for them and they're expensive. These cigars must have been kept in humidors the entire time. Big rich guys bought everything when they heard about the embargo and built huge humidors. When they died, those cigars went on the market.
JFK bought a large quantity of Cuban cigars before making the embargo. He knew what he was doing when he purchased them and then made them illegal.
Pre-embargo 1962 cigars appear on eBay as NSFW content. A bundle of 25 costs around $300. Reviews show mixed results with some buyers reporting plugged cigars that didn't have smooth draws, while others found later purchases well worth the price.
Joe has a 1956 Corvette born the same year he was. The car has been running for 70 years. It has an Art Morrison chassis, coilover springs, disc brakes, supercharger, and an LS engine. The basic build was done in Atlanta, with setup work by Kurt Busch's race team. The car has over 500 horsepower and recently received fuel injection.
Kurt Busch tested tires at his oval track and offered to have a guy set up Joe's Corvette. The setup team can feel things that regular drivers cannot detect, like left camber issues, understeer problems, and tire performance issues. They feel these problems with their bodies rather than through instruments.
Joe's Corvette originally had cheap bucket seats from a C4 or C5 model with a terrible interior and shifter. Steve Stro upgraded the suspension, completely redid the interior with solid bucket seats, installed wider tires and brake setup, and added custom wheels. The wheels are controversial with some people loving them and others hating them.
Joe has another Corvette that was originally all red with a red stripe. Steve Stro turned it black, changed the wheels, and tuned everything. Jay Leno is the only other person who has driven Joe's Corvette besides Joe himself. The car weighs very little and has approximately 550 horsepower with the supercharger.
A new studio is being set up at the racetrack with plans to start podcasts around November, timed with Formula 1 coming to town. The goal is to bring in car companies to let people drive new vehicles like the Mustang Dark Horse with 600 horsepower, take photos, and do podcasts with musicians, comics, and other guests.
Many race car drivers play golf at Driftwood when they're in town. Golf is similar to shooting a bow in that you never do the exact same thing twice due to varying distances, wind conditions, and other factors.
Jamie has hit drives over 300 yards. Ron typically hits 235-240 yards, with good shots reaching 255 yards. Rory McIlroy averages about 325 yards. Elite golfers hit the ball approximately 100 yards further than average players.
Long drive competitors can hit balls 425-579 yards on courses, sometimes reaching 500 yards at driving ranges. These competitors use specialized equipment and play in specialized locations, though they may only achieve 2-3 handicaps in actual golf games.
LeBron James has started playing golf and started a YouTube channel documenting his progress. Justin Gaethje took time off after an injury and played golf every day for a year, becoming very good at the sport. World champion MMA fighters can excel at golf due to their athletic ability and flexibility.
Stretch Zone provides resistant stretching where a practitioner stretches clients on a table for an hour using straps. This therapy is particularly beneficial for older golfers as it frees up the lower back and improves mobility. The service is never busy despite high demand from older golfers.
Light kettlebell routines with 35-pound weights can provide movement and tissue loosening without heavy exertion. These workouts are recommended for overall body control and generating force in golf drives through rotational twists and exercises.
Testosterone and human growth hormone supplementation can make muscles stronger and help the body behave like a younger body. The treatment brings hormone levels back to what they were at age 30, improving immune system function, sleep quality, and overall wellbeing without being equivalent to steroid use.
Ron White describes his kettlebell training routine where he carries two 70-pound kettlebells (140 pounds total) while walking up and down a hill every other day. The workout provides benefits through balancing the weight, maintaining grip strength, and the physical demand of carrying heavy loads over distance. He emphasizes doing something physically challenging every day for mental sanity and to counter the stress of world events.
The episode includes a BetterHelp advertisement promoting therapy services for emotional well-being and goal-setting support.
The conversation covers the importance of maintaining physical strength and health rather than allowing natural decline. Both participants discuss hiring a female trainer to work out at home, with Ron noting he tends to show up more consistently when training with women.
Joe Rogan addresses criticism of the Comedy Mothership comedy club, including accusations that it's a "walled garden" for an exclusive group. The club maintains an intimate atmosphere where comedians can speak freely without concern about being recorded or having their comments taken out of context. Some comedians say intentionally offensive things for comedic effect rather than as genuine beliefs.
Ron White defends comedian Brian Holtzman's controversial act, describing it as "the comedy version of death metal" - intentionally offensive and satirical rather than representative of his actual personality. Offstage, Holtzman is described as one of the nicest, sweetest people. His act is characterized as brilliant satire that some audience members may not initially understand.
The Mothership faces accusations of being a right-wing venue, though Ron notes that the vast majority of people working there are actually left-leaning. Joe Rogan discusses how his association with the club and his support for Trump created perceptions about his politics, despite having left-wing views on many issues while also supporting gun rights and the death penalty.
Both speakers criticize various policies they consider irrational, including open borders, COVID vaccine mandates, online censorship, and forced pronoun usage. Ron White explains he voted for Kamala Harris despite disagreeing with many policies because he wouldn't vote for Trump and wanted to support women's rights, particularly abortion access.
Ron White shares his perspective as someone becoming a grandfather, emphasizing that he doesn't feel qualified to make decisions about women's bodies since he's never been pregnant. He expresses concern about late-term abortions after learning about someone who had one solely because the boyfriend didn't want the baby. The conversation covers Massachusetts' recent expansion of abortion access to any point during pregnancy, with most abortions still occurring in the first trimester but concerns about procedures at eight months.
Ron White discusses Texas State Senator Tyrico's opposition to displaying the Ten Commandments in public schools, arguing it forces Christianity on students and violates separation of church and state. Tyrico believes this approach pushes people away from religion rather than attracting them. The conversation also covers opposition to school voucher programs that would divert public school funding to private schools.
The discussion emphasizes the need for better teachers and stronger public school systems rather than diverting funds to private schools that can discriminate in admissions. Tyrico is praised as a smart, honest politician who fought against school vouchers.
Ron White criticizes Texas politicians for attempting to ban marijuana and make it a felony despite billions in potential tax revenue. He notes that states like California generate $7.765 billion annually from marijuana taxes. The discussion covers how alcohol lobby money influences these decisions and argues that adults should be free to make their own choices about substances.
The conversation addresses Texas sending gambling revenue to neighboring states like Oklahoma's WinStar casino. While acknowledging concerns about gambling addiction, both speakers note that online platforms like DraftKings already provide easy access, and people can travel to other states or Vegas for gambling.
Joe Rogan shares experiences from his time playing pool in New York City at Chelsea Billiards, a 24-hour establishment where homeless people and junkies would sleep under tables. He mentions the book "Playing Off the Rail" by David McCumber about professional pool player Tony Anagoni, who later died by suicide after jumping off a bridge.
The conversation addresses how difficult it is when someone takes their own life and the lingering guilt that follows. People often wonder what they could have done differently or whether they should have reached out more. Joey Diaz is mentioned as someone who regularly calls friends to express love and check in on them, which feels meaningful during difficult times. Many men tend to be stoic about their suffering and don't reveal how badly they're struggling, making it impossible to know the extent of their pain until it's too late.
Brody Stevens is discussed as a particularly difficult case. Despite recognizing that he was struggling, there was no indication he would take his own life. He was seen as a brilliant, hilarious comic who was great to be around and everyone loved. The assumption was that he would be fine because he could still get on stage and perform brilliantly. The news of his death came as a complete shock.
A trip to Switzerland involved a two-and-a-half-hour car ride from Zerat to Interlockan with an English driver named Andrew who had married a Swiss woman and moved there twelve years prior. While expecting anti-American sentiment in Paris, there was little felt there, but Switzerland and northern Italy presented a colder reception. When asked about this perception, Andrew explained that Europeans don't like America's wars, particularly the missile strikes, and also dislike the tariffs. The driver noted that foreign policies affecting other countries matter more to them than those affecting America.
Palmer Lucky, a tech entrepreneur who makes drones and sophisticated military technology, was identified as one of the few intelligent voices supporting military action against Iran. His argument centered on Iran's accelerated missile production program and the danger of them acquiring nuclear weapons given their massive missile reserves. He acknowledged the timing was poor and suggested the attack should have occurred during the protests when people were revolting against the government and civilians were being executed in the streets. At that point, he believes the world and Iranian people might have supported the action.
The Iranian government was characterized as dangerous and running the country with an iron fist, executing people for protesting and sponsoring terrorism. However, historical context was provided noting that Iran had been attacked and overthrown before, with the U.S. installing their government in the 1950s when photographs showed a western-looking democracy. The interference was likely related to oil interests.
The discussion covers how governments worldwide have been interfering with other countries' affairs, described as everyone playing Russian roulette. Israel is mentioned as being in the middle of missile exchanges. The Gulf states including Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported the attack on Iran because they don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons or that level of power, despite most Americans opposing more wars.
Research revealed that between 1891 and 1897, the United States was not involved in any conflicts, but since World War II, America has been engaged in some form of military action every single year. Switzerland was noted as a country that stays out of conflicts. The massive defense budget and the financial incentives of the military-industrial complex were cited as reasons for continued involvement in conflicts, which also explains the lack of high-speed rail infrastructure.
The California high-speed rail project has spent billions without laying tracks and remains way over budget. Even when completed, there would be sections requiring bus travel, such as from Bakersfield to LA. The project was described as a grift with money being stolen, similar to other government waste exemplified by the condor conservation efforts.
There's skepticism about condor conservation efforts, with the belief that there's no actual shortage of condors and that nature regulates their population naturally. The conservation efforts are viewed as a grift where money is collected under the guise of saving the birds. California requires hunters to use copper bullets instead of lead to prevent lead poisoning in condors, though there's doubt about whether lead bullets actually affect condor populations given how high they fly.
California passed regulations making 70% of tires currently sold illegal based on new efficiency standards related to rolling resistance. The goal is to ensure replacement tires are as energy efficient as original equipment tires, supposedly saving millions of gallons of gas over time. This effectively bans cheaper tires, forcing consumers to buy more expensive options even for basic vehicles like Camrys.
Rebuilding homes in California after fires like the Pacific Palisades fire involves insane regulations and red tape that prevent construction from even beginning. In contrast, Texas allows immediate rebuilding once plans meet basic code requirements. The California Coastal Commission was mentioned as being particularly difficult to work with.
Despite the regulatory challenges, Southern California remains beloved for its climate and variety of environments accessible within two hours. Many people are trying to leave but can't sell their houses. The discussion touched on real estate interests including a potential large ranch purchase in Monaceto or Santa Barbara.
The Joe Rogan Experience has approximately 20 million subscribers on YouTube and the same number on Spotify. The growth from early days when podcasts were under the radar to current massive reach was discussed, along with the surreal experience of speaking to that many people.
Ron White is celebrating 40 years in standup comedy, having started on September 17, 1986. He has a show scheduled in Dallas that night and is heading to Florida for performances in Daytona after being off for four months.
Houston has a 6,000-seat venue in Katy where performances are held instead of going into Houston proper. Previous venues included a small nice room and a large concrete downtown space that was formerly a rock venue, described as a vomitorium that could be washed out with a hose.
Two disturbing incidents occurred at the Houston venue on the same night: a woman fell 26 feet from a steep balcony, landing on and flattening another woman and her metal chair, with both requiring stretchers. Later that same night, a man had a heart attack and died during another show. The steep balconies were noted as particularly dangerous with nothing preventing falls.
Living in high-rise buildings brings anxiety about falling, especially when looking over ledges or having phones in hand near edges. Penthouse apartments with low glass walls overlooking significant drops are particularly unsettling. Dreams about buildings falling over slowly have been experienced by those living high up, with noticeable building sway and moving toilet water.
High-rise city views were discussed, including a New York City corner apartment with glass on multiple sides offering immersive city views from around the 30th floor. The excitement of being surrounded by lit windows and buildings was contrasted with the constant awareness of other people potentially watching through binoculars.
Ron White describes purchasing an expensive tripod-mounted telescope with the intention of viewing neighbors through windows, but ultimately saw nothing. Joe Rogan notes that while he understands the appeal for a single younger person, living in such close proximity to others is unhealthy and unpleasant to constantly feel everyone's energy and presence around you.
White recounts taking his mother to see Phantom of the Opera in New York, only realizing midway through that it was an actual opera rather than a play. They also attended Book of Mormon with the original cast, which White found extremely funny. Rogan agrees that Book of Mormon is amazing, praising the South Park creators for their work. They discuss how the South Park creators changed their show's name to "South America" for Trump, which Rogan found so funny he laughed out loud reading it alone at home.
Rogan notes that South Park was Comedy Central's only successful show that the network didn't ruin. The creators had enough power from the show's success that the network left them alone. They discuss the pre-internet origins of South Park, recalling a VHS tape of "The Spirit of Christmas" circulating around 1995. White remembers seeing the second short film involving Jesus and Santa, though he doesn't recall the first one about Frosty the Snowman. The first short films were released in 1992, with wider circulation by 1995.
White got internet access in 1994, while Rogan got CompuServe around 1995-1996. They discuss how CompuServe was similar to AOL with chat rooms. White mentions he currently has internet at his house but doesn't use it, preferring not to read online comments. Rogan agrees this is smart.
White recounts buying a Sherp vehicle (described as a fire truck) that was used one year later to save lives during flooding in the same riverbed. The vehicle was discussed on news coverage, and the area now has two of them - one donated by Joe Rogan and Ron White. White expresses pride that they were able to make a meaningful difference. The vehicle can go up any bank, over giant rocks, and is unstoppable.
The Sherp crossed Greenland, taking weeks to traverse the middle of the country. It has a 55 horsepower motor but significant torque, making it slow but capable. The vehicle can store fuel in its gigantic tires, which can be accessed while driving. The tires are self-regulating, adjusting air pressure via exhaust gas without needing an onboard compressor. If a tire is shot, the vehicle keeps rolling. Each wheel has its own sealed fuel tank in the rim, balanced to prevent tilting.
The Sherp is manufactured in Ukraine, where the creators tested prototypes by driving them to the front lines and letting Russian forces shoot at them. White notes the vehicles are ideal for crazy ranches or frontline use. The Wimberley area where the flooding occurred gets hit hard with flash floods, with two major events occurring almost exactly a year apart, both on Fourth of July weekend.
The flooding was supposed to be a thousand-year event but occurred again a year later. The area has granite terrain that causes water to run everywhere and feed into the Guadalupe River. White mentions Camp Mystic, which sits right on the river and was devastated. He notes it had operated for a hundred years without issue until this event. The camp tried reopening but faced significant opposition.
White discusses an avalanche in Nepal that broke a dam, which he witnessed news coverage of while overseas. The event involved two separate incidents: a rock slide that created a lake, followed by a glacier breaking off and landing in the lake, causing the dam to burst. The flood water moved at speeds approaching 150 km per hour, raising water levels as much as 9 meters in 30 minutes.
Rogan and White discuss how natural disasters can involve not just water but debris like boulders, logs, ice, and cars. They mention meteor impact sites, including a recently discovered crater in Australia and a massive crater in Nevada caused by an asteroid the size of a house. White notes that while asteroid impacts haven't happened recently, the vast timescale of Earth means such events are random and potentially civilization-ending.
They discuss humanity's inability to stop large asteroids, noting that theories exist but no practical solutions have been tested. White suggests limiting political donations to a set amount, with any excess resulting in severe punishment, specifically to keep billionaires out of politics. Rogan agrees this should extend to corporations and lobbyists, arguing that money in politics creates improper influence over regulations.
White discusses Chinese politics, noting that while he doesn't believe communism is the answer, their system avoids popularity contests for leadership. Leaders are experienced professionals who've worked their way up from the ground. However, they cannot be removed and have total power, with severe consequences for criticizing the government. The system has problems but potentially better leadership for strengthening the country, though at the cost of freedom.
They discuss the idea of a "benevolent dictator" - someone who genuinely cares about making the world better without personal need or want. White argues this doesn't exist because most people who seek power are warmongers, power brokers, or those seeking to be top dog. The struggle to reach such positions and the attacks that follow deter many potentially good leaders from seeking office.
The presidency pays $500,000 annually, which is good money but relatively modest given the exposure to billionaires and influence. Presidents often earn significantly more after leaving office through speaking engagements. Jimmy Carter was notable for staying reasonable financially after his presidency. They mention Pete Buttigieg as potentially being one of those reasonable figures.
White references comments about God being non-binary, which he interprets as meaning God is an infinite loving force beyond simple male/female categorization. Rogan agrees with the sentiment but distinguishes between personal identity choices and biological reality. He notes that true non-binary conditions are rare intersex conditions involving chromosomal abnormalities, not feelings of discomfort with one's assigned gender.
Rogan argues that while people should be able to identify however they want personally, biological males should not compete in women's sports. He distinguishes between gender dysphoria and sex offenders claiming to be women. He notes that hormone blockers are the same category of drugs used for chemical castration of sex offenders, and argues against promoting such interventions for confused young people who don't fully understand the consequences.
There's a lot of detransitioners, people that went through the process and really wish they didn't. They get ostracized from the trans community and progressive communities. They're told they were never trans to begin with. To say someone is not really transgender after they went through surgery or chemicals is questioned as making no sense. Traits like hair color are simply what someone is born with.
People are easily influenced and sometimes make mistakes. Sometimes people get convinced or convince themselves they should do something because it's fashionable in society and culturally relevant currently.
Taler Rico is against having any kind of surgery before age 18, same as Paxton. Paxton didn't cost the state $6 million in fines and lawsuits, but that happened to Paxton.
Back in 2020, eight of Paxton's assistants turned him into the FBI for fraud. One was a 50-year Texas Ranger who was fired. That guy sued him, and four of the eight people who turned him in were fired. Paxton came up with a solution to give them $3 million to settle the case, but the house said no, it's not coming from them. They sued for $6 million, and taxpayers paid the $6 million for his bribery. He was impeached by the House 121 votes to 22, and then the Senate put him back in because they didn't want to lose the seat.
People are surprised that Taler Rico is ahead of Paxton in the polls. People are sick of what's going on in Texas after 30 years of control. The marijuana thing is considered stupid because national polls show around 70% of people think it should be legal. Decisions should be made by the people, and if those making decisions have been influenced by the alcohol lobby or anyone else, there should be severe penalties like being hung by the neck until dead.
Texas is supposed to be about freedom, but it's definitely not in the way marijuana is handled. California is making $7 billion in tax revenue from marijuana. The real problem is that alcohol sales are down 20% or more. The younger generation doesn't feel the need to get hammered every night. They don't have the wallet for it with $80,000 in school debt. They go to clubs, smoke some weed, and don't drink. They also don't like hangovers.
Liquor was the wrong choice for some, and better ways have been found. The only reason marijuana, mushrooms, and other substances are illegal is corruption. These things should be understood, studied, and they benefit a lot of people. They should be legal. Everybody who thinks not either hasn't done them, doesn't know what they're talking about, or is coming from a very authoritarian perspective where the government should be allowed to control people's behavior.
Cameras recording people doing dumb stuff may stop people from getting drunk. People are very aware of being caught and getting embarrassed because so many people have gone viral these days.
Jelly Roll said the president was a fat pig like him. Then he said if you're a Trump supporter, don't listen to his music. That was after they canceled him anyway. He was on the Jimmy Kimmel show doing a monologue that could have been written by the writers who are obviously very anti-Trump. Kimmel is very openly anti-Trump, so they could have tricked him into doing it.
Jelly Roll is super talented and will be fine. It will be a bump in the road he'll have to get over. He's been a Ron White fan since he was a kid. He's going through a lot of different changes in his life - lost 300 pounds, got hooked on fitness, did the ways to wealth thing, and then got divorced. These are giant changes, and then he was on the Kimmel show saying jokes.
Standup is really hard and a long road. Jelly Roll got laughs and had some good lines, but it was what you expect from someone beginning their standup journey. He did it a bunch of times at the club and was practicing. That might be one of the reasons he wanted to host the Kimmel show. If you know Jelly Roll, he's the best, a sweetheart, very jolly, friendly, and lovable.
People attack Jelly Roll because they're terrified of ever doing something stupid themselves. When someone does something they think is stupid, they can't wait to attack, especially someone on top of the world. Trump invented name calling and brought it back from the dead with Ellen DeGenerate.
The joke was Jelly Roll saying Trump is a fat pig like him. He joked that his 300-pound weight loss meant he lost an entire Donald Trump. Then he said from one fat pig to another, take it from me that physical fitness is very important, and trust me, you'll be happy to see your penis again.
Jelly Roll looks great and is very handsome now after losing a lot of weight. When he came to do the podcast, he ran six and a half miles on the treadmill while talking. He performed at Matthew McConaughey's Mac and Jack charity benefit and auction. As he was coming off stage, there was a stairway with a railing. He grabbed the railing and jumped over it like a cat. The comment was made that he used to be 500 pounds and now he just grabbed a railing and jumped over it like a cat.
Trump supporters are nuts and rabid. Trump represents something other than just a person to them. He represents a leader that they wish they had. Some people are hopeless, and anybody that says they'll give you hope is what people go for.
If you really want to improve your lot in life and don't have anything and don't have an education, you should be Bernie Sanders because he wants to get the minimum wage up. Bernie was really trying to help. The Democratic establishment did not want Bernie. That was the first time Joe got attacked when he had Bernie on and said if he was going to vote for anybody, he'd probably vote for Bernie.
Bernie gave in to the Democratic establishment. He let them run him over during the thing with Hillary where they rigged the primary. He let them get away with stuff where he should have put his foot down. They haven't had a legit primary in more than a decade. When they installed Kamala, they just shoved her in there. All of a sudden, she's the representative now. Biden's out, and there was no primary.
JD Vance was doing a speech talking about whether or not we're entering end times. He said while he wouldn't be shocked if we are living in the end times, what he's trying to focus on is doing as much of God's work as possible right now. And if that leads to the end times, okay. And if that leads to building a better world that thrives and survives for a very long time after he's gone, that's great too.
The response was that if it leads to the end times, that's not okay. The goal should be to make a beautiful world for all of us where people thrive and everybody's happy, and leave the end times out. That's the problem with religious people that are convinced there's a set of events that have been predicted.
JD Vance is Catholic and very religious. He wrote a book about his spiritual journey called Communion. There's a famous book called Communion by Whitley Strieber who had allegedly been abducted by aliens. Christopher Walken was in the movie Communion from 1989.
Vance changed his name four times. His birth name was James Donald Bowman. Then it was James David Hamill after his mother married her third husband. He went by JD Hamill through high school. Then he adopted the name James David Vance in 2013 before graduating from law school, changing his name to Vance to honor his maternal grandparents who helped raise him.
The end times talk is considered crazy talk. If it's end times, okay - no, that's not okay. That's not good.
Ron White grew up deeply involved in the Baptist church, with his uncle serving as a Baptist preacher who he considered his hero and the person telling him the truth. However, this perception changed when the uncle hit on White's girlfriend Jeanie and asked her to marry him, revealing himself to be "an animal." White's family came from a small town in the Texas panhandle where everyone was Baptist or Church of Christ, though these denominations didn't agree with each other on various matters.
White's grandmother was Church of Christ, which he describes as "kind of a Texas religion" that started in Texas. She would pick up little ladies to take them to church and spoke in tongues every Sunday morning, which embarrassed White who sat next to her. The preacher's wife would interpret these messages, and they were consistently about fundraising - "always the Lord telling you to go deep into your wallet."
White praises the HBO show "Righteous Gemstones" as "the funniest thing I've ever seen" and "phenomenal," noting it accurately depicts the revival tent preacher world. He connects this to his own background, explaining that comedian Sam Kinison started as a revival tent preacher. White learned his comedic craft watching his uncle preach, describing him as "a great orator" who was "very funny" and "always getting a laugh on stage saving souls every week." This experience taught White the art of performance, though he wanted to tell "dick jokes" rather than deliver religious messages.
Chris Rock similarly learned performance skills from a family member who was a preacher. Larry the Cable Guy's father was also a preacher and pig farmer, which White finds fitting for his comedy style.
White criticizes people who claim absolute certainty about religious interpretations and what will happen, stating he'll "absolutely quit listening to them" when they present such claims. He questions how anyone can be certain about concepts like burning in hell, asking "are you fucking sure?" and "How do you know?" based on what evidence.
While acknowledging the church taught good values like honesty and following the Ten Commandments (except one he can't remember), White maintains skepticism about absolute religious knowledge. He respects others' faith but draws the line at people forcing their beliefs on others, calling this "an age-old problem with human beings."
White mentions his Florida tour dates: Jacksonville on the 11th, Daytona Beach on the 12th, and Sarasota on the 13th. He also references an anniversary show in Grand Prairie, Texas on September 18th marking 40 years. His website is tatersalad.com. He discusses playing at the Cosmopolitan in Vegas, which has a 2,300-seat venue - 1,000 seats larger than the Mirage venue he previously played. White stays at "the mansion over at the MGM Grand" when in Vegas.
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