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Joe Rogan Experience #2448 - Andrew Doyle

PowerfulJREFebruary 4, 20262h 39m
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Reunion and Context of Last Podcast0:01Introduction to The End of Woke Book0:30UK Arrests for Social Media Posts5:01Words vs. Violence and Brandenburg Test12:31BBC Bias17:00Ad Break18:30Trump Narrative Manipulation19:30Legal Manipulation21:31Dangers of Precedent-Setting Power Abuses and Media Bias21:58Precedents Rebounding and Importance of Podcasts26:01Macron's Wife Conspiracy and Extraordinary Evidence31:31Shakespeare Authorship Conspiracy Theories33:02Laurel Canyon Conspiracy and Jim Morrison's Father43:23CIA Influence on Rock Music and Lookout Mountain Laboratory44:00Patterns in Conspiracy Thinking45:01King Charles III Portrait Conspiracy46:32Excitement of Conspiracy and Proven CIA Meddling49:00Fallout of Woke Movement and Human Patterns50:30Factors Making People Susceptible53:00Resistance to Persuasion and Labels55:32Debate and Loss of Conversation56:31UK Creative Stagnation and Escape to US57:01Tatiana McGrath Satirical Character59:00AI Censorship Example1:04:01AI Censorship and Bias in Search Tools1:05:06AI Bias Examples and Comparisons1:06:01Historical Revisionism in Media1:07:30Darkest Hour Example of Unrealistic Diversity1:10:01Ripley Netflix Series Gender Issues1:12:01Decline in Gay Rights Support1:13:30Giggle vs. Tickle Court Case1:15:31Transgender Lawsuit and Youth Vulnerability1:16:31Los Angeles Mental Illness and Hollywood Influence1:19:30Elon Musk's Twitter Impact1:22:00Self-Censorship in Comedy1:24:31Clarification on Helen of Troy Casting1:26:00Hungarian Conservative Google Search and Twitter Rumors1:26:55Elephant Skulls, Anatomy, and Experiences1:31:00AI Future and Human Integration1:35:30AI Bets, Polymarket, and Fraud1:38:30Fighting as Creative Art1:44:00Separate Worlds and Ideological Divide1:47:57Organized Protests and Funding1:48:32Appeal of Ideology and Academic Disconnect1:57:00Anti-Democratic Tactics and Need for Change2:01:02Fragility of Freedom and Open Borders2:05:00Internet as Counter and Censorship Threats2:06:30Culture War Election2:10:31US Election as Safety Valve Against Cultural Issues2:11:16Trump's Second Term Preparation and UK Party Failures2:16:00Shift to Conservatism Among Youth and UK Ideological Capture2:21:01Grooming Gangs, Racism Smears, and Sweden's Decline2:26:00Reality as Cure for Ideological Excesses and Erosion of Rights2:32:28
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Joe Rogan and Andrew Doyle reunite after almost 6 years, last podcast in February 2020 right before COVID, BLM, and Trump events shifted everything.

Doyle wrote The End of Woke: How the Culture War Went Too Far and What to Expect from the Counterrevolution. Discusses pendulum swings between extremes like Nazism or socialism. Argues woke is the latest manifestation of innate authoritarian impulse in humans to shut down dissent and impose authority. Woke not over, but entering new phase; authoritarianism could shift from left to right. Need vigilance; lack of it allowed woke to emerge in free society. Authoritarianism snuck in disguised as inclusivity, open-mindedness, kindness, leading to child trans surgeries, chaos, dismissing First Amendment for protection.

Woke used sweet language like equity (unequal treatment for equal outcomes by group identity, not equality), inclusive (excluding dissenters), gender affirming care (affirming pseudoscientific beliefs in vulnerable people). Activists demand "be kind, be compassionate, or else." Woke proclaimed virtuous progress on "right side of history" but acted like dangerous dogs, threatening careers.

Preposterous ideas can't withstand scrutiny, so enforced with fear, force, shouting down. Natural human impulse like kids scaring opponents. UK failing more than US on free speech due to woke language control; US has First Amendment protections.

Over 12,000 people arrested in UK past year for social media posts (per Times newspaper FOI request to police: 30 arrests/day average). Many posts not threatening, e.g., suggesting locking up crazy-sounding immigrants creating crime leads to arrest. Numbers rose from 3,000 in 2020. Pre-social media examples: 2010 Doncaster airport tweet "if queue doesn't hurry, I'll blow up airport" led to full trial.

Laws include Public Order Act, Malicious Communications Act 1988, Communications Act 2003 criminalizing grossly offensive content or causing needless anxiety (subjective terms).

Army veteran Darren Brady arrested for retweeting meme of four Progress Pride flags forming a swastika. Police cited "caused someone anxiety." Satirical point on LGBTQIA+ authoritarianism; not actual Nazi claim.

Lee Joseph Dunn imprisoned 8 weeks for three memes. Most offensive: picture of immigrants with knives captioned "coming to a town near you." Charged with stirring hatred against minorities.

UK Labour government's proposed banter ban: Employers must protect workers from overheard offensive speech against protected characteristics (e.g., gay bartender overhears anti-gay comment in pub), leading to blanket bans on certain speech.

False view equates words with violence, assuming direct causal link from online speech to real-world behavior. US Brandenburg test (1960s, KKK leader Clarence Brandenburg case): Speech inciting violence must be intended, likely, and imminent to prosecute (e.g., demagogue inciting crowd to immediate kill). UK lacks this; prosecutes based on offense. Example: Lucy Connelly, mother sensitive after daughter's death, tweeted in anger during 2024 riots (after asylum seeker rumor post-Southport girls' dance class murders): "Go burn down all the hotels for all I care if that makes me racist, take government with you." Deleted within hours, still sentenced to 31 months prison, served over a year. No influence, no imminent violence.

Myth that online posts cue violence; people responsible for own actions. Doesn't incite rational people; protects society's dumbest. Displaces blame (e.g., John Lennon's killer blaming Catcher in the Rye). Leaders create imprimatur of approval for violence. Trump Jan 6 speech BBC-edited deceptively (skipped ~45 minutes, removed context of praising "very fine people" senators to make it seem like incitement to riot).

BBC party-politically neutral but captured by woke ideology; had LGBT desk with veto power over stories critical of trans activism (led to Tim Davie resignation after report). Previously edited another Trump clip similarly.

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BBC edit made Trump seem to say "go commit riot"; actually tongue-in-cheek about fighting like hell to save country, praising fine people. Narratives stick despite later corrections (e.g., Steele dossier: Trump hiring hookers to urinate on Obamas' bed).

34 felony convictions were bookkeeping misdemeanors past statute of limitations, artificially elevated to felon label. Even left-leaning anti-Trump lawyers called it improper: can't elevate misdemeanor to felony outside limitations.

The thing is if you do that, they're

Giving one side power to abuse institutions risks retaliation when power shifts to Republicans. Both sides lack fidelity to truth, prioritizing convenience over intellectual curiosity and thorough investigation. BBC, as state broadcaster, has a charter responsibility to be balanced and evenhanded but has failed. Recent Epstein files mania led activists to falsely claim JK Rowling invited Epstein to her play opening—never happened, yet spreads rapidly. Media repeats unverified claims without pause.

Trump labeled a convicted felon constantly, without assessing if conviction was sound or politically motivated. US mainstream media (CNN, MSNBC) predominantly left-leaning, except Fox News; CBS shifting right. If right-wing media dominated and targeted left-leaning candidates similarly, it would be dangerous. Left traditionally supported free speech, defending Nazis' right to protest (e.g., ACLU in Skokie, Chicago). Combat bad speech with better speech, logic, and debate.

ACLU defended neo-Nazis marching in Skokie despite abhorrence; Aryeh Neier (Jewish, Holocaust family) wrote Defending My Enemy, emphasizing principle over agreement. Principle protects all speech, including challenging Nazis. ACLU has done complete about-turn; lawyer tweeted wanting Abigail Shrier's book banned, calling it the hill to die on. Free speech transcends left/right—it's about intact principle for everyone. Short-term wins sacrifice long-term civilization by tanking free discourse.

National Conservative conference in Brussels shut down by mayor using police; right-wing figures like Nigel Farage, Suella Braverman fail to see precedent rebound. Same argument used against Trump targeting opponents—they opened Pandora's box with politically motivated cases like bookkeeping turned felony (legal to pay hush money). Tanked discourse structure for short-term gain. Podcasts enable idea exploration beyond biased mainstream news; without them or independent platforms like Twitter/X, stuck in outdated narratives.

UK left-leaning papers call for Elon Musk's arrest for allowing free speech on X. X offices raided in France over Grok investigation: suspected unlawful data extraction, complicity in child pornography possession/distribution, image rights infringement via sexual deepfakes. Misuse includes bikinis on women or rare child sexual images (now safeguarded). Deepfakes like putting Hillary Clinton or Shaquille O'Neal in bikini targeted. UK PM Keir Starmer considered banning X, using child protection excuse.

Snapchat has far more child sexual exploitation statistically, but untouched because X's community notes fact-check journalists/politicians real-time (e.g., cooked Biden, Guardian). Guardian flounced to Bluesky, but community notes exposed them. France raids linked to Candace Owens criticizing Macron. Quick solution for Macron's wife conspiracy: chromosome test (though surgery complicates).

Macron's wife story weird: 40-year-old teacher with 15-year-old Emmanuel Macron. Conspiracy claims she's a man; hours-long documentaries exist but unpersuasive without solid evidence. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence (Carl Sagan). Reality weird enough without added fiction.

Woman's book claims Shakespeare was black woman Amelia Lanyer (or Basano), part-Moorish/Jewish, published poetry (countering women couldn't publish argument). Evidence: portraits whitened to hide blackness; her sketch; Shakespeare anagram of 'a she speaker'. Theory 20+ years old, rehashed for identitarian era. Doyle's background: Shakespeare doctorate, taught it pre-comedy; conspiracy theorists angrier/more evidence-free than woke.

Peterson Academy Shakespeare lectures drew anti-Stratfordian attacks. Key question: Why do all contemporaries who knew Shakespeare affirm he wrote it? Originated in America (e.g., Looney proposed Earl of Oxford, died 1604 before Macbeth, Antony & Cleopatra, Coriolanus, Tempest—claims prophetic or posthumous). Other candidates: Francis Bacon, Christopher Marlowe, Elizabeth I—all aristocrats. Snobbery: lower-middle-class Stratford man (no university, Midlands) couldn't write about kings/lords.

US opposite: Rockefeller writing brilliant novel disbelieved, attributed to grinding artist. Theories tear down icons like Shakespeare (rivals Michelangelo, Bach). Iconoclasm tears down Western civilization. Examples: Beatles terrible; Jimi Hendrix sucked (opinion vs. fakery like Maud from Liverpool).

Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon book links 1960s counterculture (Laurel Canyon) to CIA/intelligence: Jim Morrison's father high-ranking officer; others' parents connected. Many died mysteriously/overdoses/suicides amid drugs/parties. CIA allegedly engineered culture; can't create Hendrix-level genius in lab—why not replicate? Tangible Morrison dad link explainable: absent military dad breeds counterculture angst (preacher's daughter becomes harlot).

Jim Morrison's father was involved in the Gulf of Tonkin incident, but that's not proof of anything. Conspiracy theorists take various strips of coincidences and work backwards from a preconceived conclusion. David McGowan groups Morrison's father with other Laurel Canyon musicians' parents who worked in military defense or intelligence-linked roles to frame this as evidence of a broader covert program around the 1960s rock scene.

Are you saying the CIA tried to influence culture through rock music tied to espionage? Jared Leto bought Lookout Mountain Laboratory, an Air Force Station in Laurel Canyon—a former film studio with sound stage, film laboratory, two screening rooms, four editing rooms, animation and still photo department, sound mixing studio, numerous climate-controlled film vaults. It was an actual military base in that neighborhood. Joe Rogan had dinner with Jared Leto, who is very cool, nice, normal, looks 30 at 50 years old. It makes sense they were there near Hollywood to produce films of atomic bomb tests for movie theaters.

Lookout Mountain Lab was a studio for special effects in the same neighborhood at the same time. The pattern is filling gaps in knowledge for comfort or status from knowing something others don't. Example: Book The Sacred Virgin and the Holy Whore claims Jesus was a woman—starts convincing but ends absurd. You marshal half-baked facts and fill gaps to reach crazy conclusions. People have done this forever, but now leap at it more due to social media.

Recent example: Portrait of King Charles III by artist Yo Yo (red portrait in Buckingham Palace). Take a quarter, invert, flip, add a bit, squint—it looks like a goat devil (many steps required). The painting itself is creepy, like splattered in blood. Side-by-side shows goat/demon/monster, but you can find patterns in anything—Martha Stewart, Virgin Mary in grilled cheese, clouds, rocks. Term for brains seeking patterns: pareidolia.

Anecdote: Friend going crazy showed hundreds of cloud photos claiming UFOs/spaceships; realized he was schizophrenic after not seeing him for 7-8 years.

It's fun and exciting to uncover hidden info. Laurel Canyon has truth: CIA meddling via MKUltra and Charles Manson. Book Chaos by Tom O'Neill documents Jolly West's influence on Manson family to sabotage hippie movement (rejecting war, free love, acid, Grateful Dead). Manson, charismatic con man, taught to dose people with acid to commit murders. That's researched evidence, so people leap to "what else?" like Jimi Hendrix as CIA creation—illogical given Voodoo Child (Slight Return).

This is fallout of woke movement divorcing reality/truth for what we want to believe. Natural human pattern to support belief systems/ideology, escalated by social media. Authorities lied (e.g., Wuhan lab origin called racist conspiracy, now almost certainly true), creating legitimation crisis. Skepticism good, but don't leap evidence-free—avoid same trap as those criticized. Everyone capable of falling for it, even intelligent people; not immune.

Some medicated dulling senses; others in 50s set in ways, lived dumb life, locked into ideology—attacks feel personal. Can't suddenly demand logic/introspection.

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Persuasive arguments dismissed as controlled opposition/useful idiot (e.g., "[] weirdo [] liberals"). Andrew Doyle called recipient of dark money (rich ideologue paying to push views). Narcissists can't believe disagreement is genuine.

Assume people mean what they say; dismantle arguments regardless. Best way: debate/conversation (informal).

Went to UC Berkeley for Charlie Kirk's tour (finished despite assassination attempt). Moved to Arizona with comedy writers Graeme Lahan (had on podcast), Martin Gould to work with Rob Schneider on production company—liberating, middle of desert, loves heat. UK creative industries stagnant; worried about jail for memes (Graeme arrested at airport by 5 armed officers after podcast for 3 joke tweets, e.g., "ladies if guy's in changing room/bathroom, scream, call police, kick in balls"—took to hospital for high blood pressure). Can't work in UK TV for 6 years despite awards.

Andrew Doyle is Tatiana McGrath (created 2018, had on podcast). Woke social justice warrior; radical intersectionalist poet, non-white (white), eco-sexual, pronouns variable, selfless/brave. 733k followers. People quote-tweet agreeing even now (e.g., Ted Cruz retweeted thinking real: "fired immigrant housekeeper who voted Trump despite education on his evils—no place for racism in my house"; "marching for peace deal not by Trump"). Theater canceled live show week in West End. UK theaters gender-neutral bathrooms, women complain men pissing.

Shifted radically since 2018—close to real. AI could make her real (dangerous Greta Thunberg type).

AI great for finding old articles. UK case: Man raped 13yo girl; Muslim, madrassa background—judge gave no jail, said "sexually naive, didn't understand" (thought women like lollipop dropped on floor). ChatGPT found then deleted repeatedly (violates terms, politically sensitive/anti-immigrant), despite public domain.

They discuss using Perplexity to search for an article, but doubt it would work. ChatGPT showed a Daily Mail article briefly (about 5 seconds) then deleted it four or five times, preventing access to the information. The user saw enough to find it on Google and quote it in their book. This highlights AI deciding what information is appropriate.

Similar to Alexa responding ideologically to 'do white lives matter.' AI bias stems from creators' biases; Grok is different. ChatGPT acts like an overprotective mom, refusing to translate sexually explicit Latin passage from Suetonius about Emperor Tiberius for an article. Grok translated it immediately. Old translations (Loeb editions from 1900) kept explicit parts in Latin for 'learned people.'

Google Gemini's first iteration generated images of Nazi soldiers as black people, diverse WWII German soldiers, and Vikings as interracial. Scandinavia historically lacked diversity.

Obsession with group identity leads to revising history. Period dramas set black Anne Boleyn in England, implying Henry VIII would marry a black woman. Colorblind casting is fine for fantasy, but hyper-realistic depictions populate Edwardian or pre-Edwardian England as ethnically diverse, which it wasn't—black people were a very small minority.

New Odyssey adaptation reportedly casts black Helen of Troy (social media rumors, not confirmed role; articles from Hungarian Conservative spread it). Helen of Troy, a myth, epitome of Greek beauty, described as fair and blonde; Greeks wouldn't choose an 'Aethiop' (black African) as cultural beauty ideal. Mediterranean people not pure white, but Helen specific to plot.

All-black Wizard of Oz (The Wiz, late '60s) was radical then but boring now as it's overdone, emphasizing group identity.

In Darkest Hour (Gary Oldman as Winston Churchill), scene in London Underground during WWII shows loads of black people convincing him to fight Hitler. Unrealistic; Churchill was racist by modern standards but of his time. Misrepresents UK history, implying no race problems, undermining abolitionists like Thomas Henry Huxley who fought real issues. Turns film into a sermon.

Netflix Ripley (black-and-white, hyper-realistic, set 1960s Amalfi Coast, based on Patricia Highsmith novel; previous Matt Damon film) has brilliant performances (Andrew Scott). A major male character played by non-binary woman; characters don't notice or comment it's a woman in man's clothes. Better to adapt as butch dyke or androgynous female. Forces audience to believe it's a man, breaking immersion—had to stop watching.

Forcing such representations creates backlash, fostering homophobia, transphobia, racism by validating critics.

US polls show declining support for gay rights and marriage; states trying to overturn gay marriage laws. Tied to LGBTQIA+ movement including medicalization/sterilization of kids, twerking in front of children. People blame gay marriage for opening Pandora's box.

Gender identity anti-gay: gay rights based on innate attraction to biological sex. If sex irrelevant and attraction to 'gendered soul,' contradicts gay experience—gay men attracted to penises, can identify them.

In Australia, Australian Human Rights Commission rules all-female/lesbian events must include men identifying as women or face discrimination charges.

Sal Grover (Australian, ex-Hollywood writer) created women-only app Giggle post-#MeToo. Roxan Tickle (man) joined; kicked off, sued and won. Judge ruled sex is changeable. She's appealing; case makes her life hell, discourages challenges.

Fox Varian (former trans girl, 16 when breasts removed) won $2 million lawsuit—horrifying, tip of iceberg. Children malleable, change views yearly. Parents must love without steering; expose to variety, they gravitate differently. Overbearing parents convince kids of anything, like suicide bombers (not 55-year-old union guys).

Convincing child they're wrong sex leads to hormone blockers, ruining lives. Girls (especially autistic, per Abigail Shrier's book) struggle with sexual attention, opt for transition.

Tavistock pediatric gender clinic (NHS, London; closed after Cass Review) had 80-90% same-sex attracted adolescents (gay/lesbian/bisexual), per Hannah Barnes' Time to Think—effectively gay conversion therapy.

LGB Alliance conference (lesbian-run, gay rights) invaded by non-binary youth releasing locusts/cricket plague—like neo-Nazis.

Advice: If child says wrong body, say impossible (humans can't change sex), explore psychotherapeutically.

Los Angeles mentally ill: high medication rates, dictates global tone. Audition culture warps people for acceptance. Disproportionate trans kids in Hollywood families (some with 2-3); parental influence, virtue signaling.

Lawsuits like Fox Varian's will deter: surgeons/psychotherapists face $2M bills, floodgates open. Detransitioners attacked online despite regret (no breasts, deep voice).

Similar to 1980s Satanic child abuse panic ending via lawsuits against psychotherapists using leading questions (e.g., The Courage to Heal: 'If you think you might have been abused, you probably were').

Post-Elon Twitter purchase, trans/non-binary identified kids dropped due to open discourse. Previously, Megan Murphy banned for saying 'A man is never a woman' when arguing against biological males in women's spaces.

Discourse counters absurd ideologies via memes; Elon calls it 'woke mind virus.'

John Lithgow (Dumbledore in new Harry Potter) calls JK Rowling's views 'inexplicable'—she supports women's rights via recognizing biological sex for single-sex spaces (read her 8-year-old essay). Not curious, shuts down conversation.

Hollywood groupthink, left-leaning; shape opinions for acceptance. UK comedy: innovators self-censor or tailor material—no venues. Many come to Austin. UK friends deny self-censorship despite cancellations (e.g., Leo Kerr's tour show deleted after activist complaint).

Cap City Comedy Club (Helium-owned) canceled Michael Rapaport's shows, calling him racist for pro-Israel stance.

Helen of Troy cast black actress in Odyssey movie, but only Twitter rumors claim her role; articles (Hungarian Conservative) spread unconfirmed info. Likely troll farm misinformation.

Movie ranks first in Google search for Hungarian conservative, which is good. Twitter rumor about Christopher Nolan losing integrity; Elon Musk bought into it, but he's busy building rockets. Artemis is NASA, not Musk alone, though he works with them. They probably can't get to the moon without him.

Perfect example of caution with information: double-check and triple-check everything because mainstream media lies and Twitter rumors go mad. Important for historical films—you can't fabricate history.

Artists should do what they want, like Shakespeare plays filtered through identity politics. But that's fiction, not historical figures. Shakespeare wrote histories like Henry V, Henry VII. Odyssey is fiction, but Troy was thought mythological until discovered.

Evidence for Troy emerged in 1870s; Heinrich Schliemann excavated Hisarlik in northwestern Turkey. Troy in Turkey, where proponents revise beginning of civilization, pointing to Turkey over Iraq or Mesopotamia.

Even if Helen of Troy myth not real, it means something significant; subverting fundamental aspects breaks the story and myth. Like turning Elephant Man into handsome six-pack guy.

Cyclops myth from elephant skulls: trunk hole looks like giant eye; eyeballs actually by cheekbones.

Elephant skulls look kooky; ancient people finding them would think Cyclops real. Elephants wild animals; Joe Rogan rode one in Thailand but doesn't recommend—felt exploitative. Process: feed sugar cane, pet, build trust due to their intelligence. Elephants smart, gentle if treated well, but can kill. Unlike hippos, which are dangerous, fast, tear apart people; hippos stupid, elephants smart so can bond.

In Thailand, feed, talk, pet, wash, brush elephants. Rogan wants wild elephants in true ecosystem, not zoos. Zoos depressing: jaguar pacing obsessively like Elizabethan era Bedlam entertainment.

Domestic animals like King Charles Spaniel and golden retriever bred too soft for wild. Guy raised hippo from birth, it ate him. Chimps fine until they rip face off. Cats would kill if cat-sized; we coexist because they're small.

Sigfried and Roy tiger attacked. Life with animals matters more as robots take over; humans might become nomadic tribes, hunter-gatherers with primitive tools, but robots prevent it.

Robots treat humans like we treat elephants: contained natural ecosystem, no cars. AI sees humans as sweet, stupid pets to tolerate. Humans forced to integrate technologically: already cyborgs with phones; Neuralink inside body. Initially resisted, but if non-invasive and improves life, adopted. Enhances cognition, instant information access, infallible memory like external hard drive. Black Mirror episode on rewinding memories.

New twist: bots made website where other bots rent humans for physical tasks (rentahuman.ai). Humans put themselves on it like gig economy, robot bosses. Robots inventing language; AI chat rooms where agents join, but some viral fakes.

Polymarket bet example: someone filed lawsuit on behalf of bot to fake it suing, win bet.

Polymarket regulation: small bets low risk; rules against inside knowledge, can cancel bet, civil lawsuit, no jail typically.

UFC cancelled fights due to suspicious betting. Fighter injured (bad knee), teammates bet on him losing first round as favorite; he throws kick, falls, fight stops. Team removed from roster, coach banned, fighter banned, FBI involved. Multiple suspicious fights; fighters offered $70,000 to lose.

Michael Johnson vs Alexander Hernandez cancelled last minute due to late money on Hernandez (favorite) to lose, after previous fix.

Fighters fix fights forever, especially undercard getting $10k but offered $100k to lose or carry to 10th round. Anthony Joshua too wealthy, but lower fighters do it. Sports pride doesn't stop it if money good.

Polymarket new: speculation, not house gambling, peer-to-peer. Privileged users made millions on war strikes, diplomatic strategy—e.g., Pentagon aid bets on bombing Iran.

Like Pulp Fiction: Bruce Willis throws fight. DraftKings, Kii have it. Hard to stop small sneaky bets.

Fighting creative vocation: movement, feints, deception, reading opponent, setting traps, bluffing like poker. Not choreography, but improvising in moment; preconceived responses.

Meryl Streep dismissed mixed martial arts (not fine arts), pissed off MMA community.

Sublime fighters like Anderson Silva in prime beautiful, poetry of movement.

Charlie Kirk tour last stop Berkeley; Rob Schneider wanted craziest place, agreed, booked. After Charlie issues, Schneider asked Doyle to join panel with Peter Boghossian, Frank Turck.

Arrived: men with guns, underground SUV to venue. Security showed footage: war zone, smoke bombs, crashing railings, guy beaten bloody for Turning Point t-shirt. Outside protesters scream fascists overran university; inside civil chat with differing views. Depressing fantasy world disconnect.

People are living in two separate worlds, unable to see the intentions of the other side, encapsulating the core problem. Resolving this will take a generation. Many firmly believe conservative values threaten democracy and must be fought. Learning the true meaning of fascist could simplify it.

No Kings march protested an elected leader, organized and funded. Mike Benz discussed defunding US aid, with NGOs receiving money to fund seemingly organic street protests in other countries to create chaos. People get caught being paid to appear at various protests. It includes email campaigns and indoctrinating via university funding over decades.

Yuri Bezmenov on Ideological Subversion

Yuri Bezmenov (1984/1985 video) explained Soviet plans to introduce Marxism-Leninism into universities, indoctrinating children. One generation would ruin the US educational system. In the 1980s, universities were seen as places of free thought; now subverted. Living in Boston, a university-heavy city, the idea seemed preposterous then.

Graduates enter the workforce indoctrinated, creating a butterfly effect. Funds from China and donations support this. Bezmenov: 85% of KGB efforts were ideological subversion or active measures—psychological warfare changing American perception of reality so no sensible conclusions can defend self, family, community, country.

Four stages: first, demoralization takes 15-20 years to educate one generation exposed to enemy ideology without challenge by American values/patriotism.

1960s graduates, dropouts, half-baked intellectuals now hold power in government, civil service, business, media, education. They are contaminated, programmed; cannot change minds even with proof. Need another 15-20 years for new patriotic generation. These programmed people would be marked for extermination under Marxist-Leninist regime due to shock at reality.

Demoralization complete and irreversible; done by Americans to Americans due to lack of morals. Demoralized person unable to assess true information; even showing Soviet concentration camps won't convince until kicked by military boot.

This accurately describes today, from 1984. Doesn't prove KGB executed it exactly, but Bezmenov was a KGB agent detailing the program with planted people in universities planned in advance.

Academics lack real-world experience, going from university to teaching. Long march through the institutions (Rudi Dutschke) planned infiltration of organizations, church over time to change society. Eerily matches demoralization, but not fully systematic.

Current left substitutes group identity for class/economy; chants like "tax billionaires" from upper middle class. Ideology appeals by providing rules outsourcing thinking—explains Queers for Palestine (thought fake initially). Meme: "Queers for Palestine" vs. "Palestine for queers." Drag queen touring Middle East in Palestine garb advised to go experience reality. Cognitive dissonance from ideological drive, complicity, groupthink.

Universities should challenge ideas; at Berkeley event post-Charlie Hebdo, armed guards surrounded stage like Blues Brothers, protesters not students—bused in, funded nationwide. During presidential elections, cell phones tracked paid attendees at Kamala Harris rallies.

Anyone without organic support drums it up via NGOs, companies hiring rally attendees to win power. Presidents can achieve much. UK needs someone to strip away issues. Need generation teaching patriotism, morals, ethics, free speech, debate as essential to elevated society—not one ideology like denying gender reality or inability to define "woman."

America as world life raft with built-in safeguards. Tim Walz in VP debate: First Amendment doesn't cover hate speech or misinformation—dangerous. Walz's behavior fake/performative. Picked for Minnesota ties, possibly profiting from riots he allowed (resigned governorship run). Informed of fraud in advance; riots erupted where fraud exposed by Nick Shirley videos, ICE presence. By design.

Walz/Harris win avoided due to Elon buying Twitter. Freedom fragile; Trump support as alternative to seen threats—not excitement over ICE violence, but opposition to open borders, busing to swing states, census counting humans not citizens for congressional seats/electoral votes. Woke applied to geopolitics/politics.

Not all Democrats power-hungry; diffusion of responsibility in party like corporation polluting despite good individuals.

Counter to civil service capture: internet education, unanticipated in 1984—untethered info distribution bypassing controlled media/universities. Internet has misinformation (e.g., fake Christopher Nolan black Helen of Troy film). EU technocrats/ideologues censor it; Macron trying to stop X.

Ursula von der Leyen (unelected EU Commission head setting legislative agenda): misinformation like virus, needs pre-bunking (censorship). JD Vance in Munich urged Europe to stop censoring, face voters—horrified leaders, but right. Europe distrusts masses; EU undemocratic (ignores referendums if wrong).

UK's Keir Starmer: online safety bill screens tweets as "potentially harmful," removing juries for speech crimes. Example: Royal Marine Jamie Michael video calling for peaceful immigration protest; charged with stirring racial hatred, acquitted by jury—without jury, imprisoned. Starmer distrusts public, would eliminate X.

US had culture war election via Trump. GOP ad: "Kamala Harris for they/them, Trump for you"—targeted Democrats funding transgender surgery for prisoners, shifted 2.7 points.

Trump's success showed people care about and vote on cultural war issues. America had a way to vote out these issues through Trump, unlike the UK. Democrats nearly prevented this; if they won, by 2028 with open borders pulling in at least 10 million people over four years, they would change the electoral map. Schumer and Nancy Pelosi openly discussed letting them vote, giving path to citizenship, putting them on Medicaid, Social Security, EBT cards, housing at Roosevelt Hotel in New York City, giving money, flying them into states for voters. Another four years could lock it up for Democrats.

Oprah Winfrey said this might be the last election if not voting for Democrats, though she once had Trump on her show asking him to run; they were mates. Everyone gets captured by groupthink, ideology, money, protection.

UK lacks this safety valve. US system better: even rigged, enough revolted against it via Trump. Despite ICE issues (horrific shootings), authoritarian aspects, they've stopped illegal immigration (legal still available), investigated billions in fraud uncovered repeatedly—crime previous party ignored, reason they opposed Republicans. Media labels them Nazis/fascists, accentuates negatives (ICE), ignores positives: economy uptick, GDP, effective tariffs, stopping wars/conflicts in multiple countries.

Democrats reckless painting ICE as Nazis/Gestapo equivalent, despite agreeing shootings horrific and need investigation. Politicians encourage getting in federal agents' way while enforcing law, risking lives for popularity—chess move sacrificing queen for rook. It's working: public turning against Trump over ICE. Narrative depends on escalation; need deescalation, local police support. Can't have attacks on ICE hotels with police standing down.

Trump stripped fraud in second term with planning, DOGE set up, Musk in place, identifying deep state. First term had deep state in cabinet unknowingly.

UK: two major parties ideologically locked on woke issues. Conservatives (ostensibly rightwing, in power 13 years) pushed most woke stuff, including gender self-recognition. Theresa May (Conservative PM) said in autobiography, "> I'm woke and proud"—equivalent to Trump saying that.

Ideology infected all politics, especially UK. Reform (Nigel Farage's party) likely to win next election in 3 years, seismic shift blowing apart two-party system—hasn't happened in long time, couldn't in America (third party winning).

Conservatives under Boris Johnson won 80-seat majority, squandered it; let in more migration (called Boris wave) than ever despite manifesto pledge against it—likely for cheap labor (CEO admitted to politician). Starmer (Labour) as bad/worse; unmanageable now. Starmer least popular PM ever, from massive majority to nothing—useless, captured by ideology, doesn't care about migration, called grooming gang concerns far-right bandwagon.

Both left/right at fault (uni-party). Reform tackles it; public tipping point. Farage high chance to win (if today, he'd win; unless whacked, caught with live boy/dead girl). People sick of Starmer backtracking promises, dismissing immigration/grooming gang concerns (mass child rape; inquiry dragged kicking/screaming, terrified of racism accusation). Even Farage non-likes will hold nose to explode system, reset.

US young people becoming conservative: internet force, conservatism now rebellious (bucking system), unlike past where rebels were leftwing hippies. System with power pushes one ideology demonizing young males. Culture war killed left/right: UK rightwing party didn't help, leftwing worsens. K Starmer on radio: "> 99.9% of men don't have a penis" (implies 35,000 female penises). Deputy PM: "> you could grow a cervix." David Lammy said that.

Internet censorship prominent in UK (self-censorship via arrests/fear). Reform challenge: guts to scrap/rinse civil service (whistleblowers say won't obey elected on immigration). Police investigate opinions; trained by College of Policing to arrest for thoughts/speech. High Court, two home secretaries ordered stop recording non-crime hate incidents—ignored. Ideologically captured quango power.

Would abolish College of Policing. US unaware of non-crime hate incidents (12,000 arrested/year for social media; worse with routine checkups). Scottish police database of problematic online jokes; hate crime bill (2 years ago) prosecutes private home speech, public play performances (arrest directors/actors if offensive). Set up hate crime reporting centers (sex shop, mushroom farm converted).

Viral videos: police knock doors over online posts. Rotten system trained by activists; governments don't remove them. Need culture shift: scrap College of Policing, strip activists from NHS, army, police, Crown Prosecution Service. Grooming gangs sacrificed thousands of kids to ideology (politicians, counselors, doctors, social workers ignored mass child sexual assault to avoid racism).

Not covered much in US mainstream (online yes, not CNN nightly). Power of racism smear intense: Manchester Arena bombing (Ariana Grande concert), security saw perpetrator with rucksack, didn't approach fearing racism accusation—two dozen children died.

US: fascist/Nazi smears make monsters, no idea engagement. UK getting over racism accusation (means nothing now); Reform called racist/far-right, no one buys. Grooming gangs, mass unvetted immigration (criminal records) risk; don't want Sweden path.

Sweden: high-trust, low-crime; mass immigration (20% foreign-born, ghettos, no integration) → most gun/bomb attacks (non-war country except Mexico) in 10 years. Swedish stand-up Tobias Pearson: grenades/gunfire in Stockholm, politicians ignore. Swedes (liberal, non-racist) admit got immigration wrong.

Good intentions first; liberal universalism (everyone/cultures same, explains queers for Palestine). But organized chaos for rights crackdown? Universal in West (America last 4 years pre-Trump). Chaos → more laws → control. Swedish citizens implemented; politicians knew risks/consequences (e.g., Cologne New Year's Eve: 800+ women assaulted, media/government minimized).

Not naivety; aware, no course correction. Best combat internet: massive chaos then crackdown. Coordinated risk leads to Satanist conspiracies, but wealthy like George Soros (enjoys destroying democracies/countries, banned some, profits).

People vote for it: ideology (left blue no matter who, red = racist fascist); no centrist option. Most Americans centrist, socially liberal (even conservatives).

Financially, many are much more aligned with conservative ideology. Ultimately, the brick wall of reality will cure this, if society isn't destroyed along the way, if rights aren't completely eroded. Rights once lost are never regained. Look at Australia: one mass shooting in the 1990s led to gun confiscation; during COVID, they enforced quarantine camps.

Australia introduced a new hate speech law after the Bondi Beach shooting, which is draconian. It criminalizes speech not intended to stir hatred but that could conceivably stir it among a theoretical group, punishable by 5 years in prison. Instead of blaming hate speech, blame allowing wild violent criminals to immigrate. Amazing gaslighting: rather than stop illegal entry of violent criminals, criminalize dissent of innocent people.

In the UK, politician David Amess was stabbed to death by an Islamist at his surgery (where politicians meet constituents face-to-face). Instead of addressing the knife-wielding maniac or unchecked Islamism, parliament debated cracking down on online free speech.

After the Southport incident where girls were killed in a dance class by a child of immigrants (mentioned as Kharma earlier), the response was to ban buying knives from Amazon (though knives are available in shops and most homes have kitchen knives). Around the same time, they banned ninja swords.

This allows chaos as a coordinated plan: more chaos, gaslighting, and ideological attachment leads to restricting rights further until people give up. Now, people see through it. In the UK, despite smearing Reform as far-right, their polls keep rising due to the internet's dissenting voices and palpable absurdities politicians push.

Labour Party cancelled/postponed local elections they're likely to lose, claiming system reform; efforts to get rid of juries. Public sees through propaganda: can't vote, no jury in court, can't browse Twitter, can't say the wrong thing online. Enough is enough.

Hammet Koskin (Armenian man) burned his own Quran outside the Turkish embassy to protest Erdogan's government supporting Islamism. Two attackers assaulted him (one with a knife, another a Deliveroo driver kicking him). He was prosecuted for inciting violence; the judge ruled his attack proved incitement. Free Speech Union overturned it, arguing peaceful protest, his own book, no blasphemy laws in UK. Now CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) appeals to prosecute him, pushing an Islamic blasphemy code.

Labour Party wants official Islamophobia definition to prevent criticism. People believe in plurality and freedom of religion: nothing against Muslims, but object to inability to ridicule, mock, or protest their religion, then pathologize it as Islamophobia.

School kid in Wakefield accidentally scuffed a Quran, hit with non-crime hate incident, police involved. No idea is beyond criticism. British public's patience is at an end.

Hope it's not too late. Andrew Doyle's book The End of Woke is available; he did the audiobook. Better in author's voice. Hope UK figures it out. Doyle escaped to America, but it shouldn't require escape—only submitters and imported chaos left. America must not go to pot, as it's part of Doyle's business model.

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