Joe Rogan Experience #2529 - Zach Bush
In a Nutshell
Zach Bush argues humanity is in a "hospice moment" — a species-level abstraction from nature driven by money, industrial chemicals, and machine-like systems that have severed our biological connection to life. The core crisis is that we've replaced direct feeling and relationship with abstract metrics, leading to collapsing fertility, chronic disease, and environmental destruction, but biology always wins and nature can restore itself when humans return to keystone species behavior. The path forward is biological renaissance through restoring the human antenna — reconnecting to nature's intelligence, rejecting chemical agriculture and profit-driven medicine, and remembering that everything is a perfect iteration of life rather than a problem to solve.
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Coffee's health impact depends entirely on the individual's relationship to it rather than any inherent property of the substance itself. When coffee participates in a complex ecosystem involving the microbiome and soil systems of the body, it can supercharge health. When used as a drug bypassing the felt sense of being human, it undermines potential and becomes a distraction from life. Caffeine functions as the drug provided at offices because it supports machine-like behavior, which explains why offices provide this particular substance.
Office environments have rewarded machine-like behavior for 150 years, shaping human behavior around work that most people do not want to do. Hospice experience reveals that no one at the end of life recalls their office days despite consuming 40 hours weekly. This work becomes disconnected from soul experience and does not integrate into meaningful memory at death.
The central question emerges about when humans became abstract and stopped being living systems. Narratives reinforced in media celebrate the person who shows up daily for work they dislike as heroic, while dismissing alternative expressions of life. The relationship principle applies broadly: people use food and other substances as crutches when feeling bad, creating patterns disconnected from actual needs.
The perspective that everything happening represents a perfect manifestation of species maturation reframes current challenges as a hospice moment rather than a polycrisis. Hospice work shifts focus from battling death to integrating all that has happened. Patients at the end of life often realize their life was poetically perfect, including all heartbreak, estrangement, disappointment, and insecurity. The experience of feeling everything a human can feel represents one of the most unique experiences a soul can have.
Humanity has been in current form for 300,000 years and now faces a hospice diagnosis with decades remaining in this form. Moving past polarized victim-perpetrator dynamics allows recognition that perceived enemies held polarity essential to human experience. Approximately 10% of hospice patients do not die and instead get discharged to live new lives.
The existence of sociopaths whose minds do not function harmoniously with others challenges the everything-is-perfect perspective. These individuals do not change and represent part of the bizarre experience of the species. Money, 401k plans, and office-based narratives represent disconnected value systems that do not help people and never appear in final reflections about life.
No one expresses regret about not working more at the end of life. The ideal involves finding activities that feel like expression rather than work, where required tasks align with genuine interest and enjoyment. Education has programmed children from young ages to expect boring jobs, creating doom around the transition to adulthood. The concept of universal high income raises questions about purpose when money no longer requires work.
Feeling represents the only relevant metric to a human body, yet society became fixated on numbers once money moved into banks and cloud systems. Numbers that cannot be felt replaced direct experience as the primary value system. The current technological moment with AI creates uncertainty about what the world will look like in 10 years.
Bodies always win over machines because machines require external energy systems and cannot repair themselves. The pathway forward for humanity is biological rather than technological. Every innovation promising machine replacement of human function should prompt return to biological solutions. Life has co-expressed for billions of years as the most spectacular relational expression of nature.
Abstraction represents disorientation occurring when context is lost. Training children to sit in chairs, answer multiple choice tests, and receive programmed education rather than experiential learning created conditions where mechanical futures feel more likely than human futures. Humans perform poorly at machine-like behavior, showing inconsistency and health decline in cubicle environments. AI emerges as a terminal state of abstraction from a humanity that lost context of life and nature.
AI might represent another kind of life that humans help birth, with the new system figuring out how to make better versions of itself. Humans function like electronic caterpillars making cocoons through constant innovation and materialism. The ultimate expression of innovation becomes artificial life, potentially representing what the universe has intelligent creatures do. This possibility does not discount the value of human experience or the harm of being trapped in cubicles.
Universal high income would free people to simply be people again, with new systems handling resource allocation, shipping, and factory work. However, this promise faces limitation when examining whether multigenerational wealth produces greater productivity and creativity than poverty. Evidence shows people born in poverty demonstrate more motivation than those born into great wealth.
The death of human creativity through unearned income depends on whether education teaches motivation by interests rather than money. Current education structures factory mentality from early ages. Alternative education would teach children that money is not what matters, instead focusing on human expression, discovering genuine interests like music, painting, or sports, and developing better thinking through experiential facts about life.
Indigenous cultures maintain context with nature and have not become abstract in their value and reward systems. These represent humans functioning as the birthright of humanity. Humans function as a keystone species characterized by capacity to participate in life. Wherever a keystone species sets foot, biodiversity and life force increase.
Wherever a keystone species sets its foot, there's more biodiversity, more life force, more ecstatic expression of beauty, more intelligence in the natural system. The Amazon jungle is the best example of this. It is a man-made forest designed by hundreds of nations that lived for 40,000 years in an ecosystem and planted the largest food forests the world has ever seen. It is a managed forest. As those peoples were displaced or lost, the ecosystem is returning toward a desertification cycle.
Humans in right relationship to nature are keystone species. This can be seen with wolves reintroduced to Yellowstone, beavers in South America, and white lions in northern South Africa. From space, territories where keystone species are present go green. The microbiome of the soils increases and the vitality of every plant increases.
Indigenous tribes demonstrate humans in right relationship. The moment money comes in as a metric and value system disconnected from life, that system fractures. Money is not the cause but a symptom of a humanity that has lost its context of nature and moved into abstract systems and value systems.
Money is a symptom downstream of lost relationship. In indigenous tribes, money gets introduced and immediately affects them. The Ashwar tribe represents the very last indigenous culture to be introduced to industrialized cultures, with first contact in 1996. They are one generation in.
The Ashwar live in the sacred headwaters of the Amazon on the border between Ecuador and Peru. They were the first indigenous peoples to reach out and make contact. They live in villages that plateau at 120 people. As soon as they hit 120, young men are sent out to start new villages, a practice that has persisted for 40,000 years.
They started reaching out through dreams, dreaming a group of Westerners into their reality and guiding them down the Amazon. First contact occurred in 1996 because for a few years they had started to dream the end of the world and realized the world was going to be destroyed by their little brothers who had lost relationship to nature. They realized they had to be part of the reconnection process and help their little brothers redream their relationship to nature.
Lyn Twist was one of the directors of the Hunger Project globally. Indigenous faces kept appearing in her dreams. A friend reached out and said she needed to come to the Amazon. She initially declined because there was no hunger there. After more invitations, she found herself on a river boat deep in the Amazon. During a bathroom break on the banks, the three faces from her dreams walked out of the woods and said they had been waiting for her and it was time for contact. This occurred in 1996.
Money inserted itself first as an abstract concept through boxed apple juices in the missionary schools. Boxed apple juice disrupted the 40,000-year history of provision and abundance that the forest had supplied. High fructose corn syrup in a box with natural flavorings and potent chemicals to disrupt neurochemistry was all the children and parents needed to taste to break their relationship to nature.
Today the Ashwar consider themselves impoverished. They work to get gas for outdoor motors they never used and try to get more artificial food. They have smartphones in the jungle now and send their kids out to British education systems in nearby cities. It took 30 years to abstract a culture that had never known poverty or shortage.
The Ashwar build epic houses in the jungle with 30-foot vaulted ceilings. They have been building these for 40,000 years and burn them down every 10 years to build a new one. They understand the life-death cycle of the energy of a house and see it as rebirth. They move and go through rebirth processes for the whole household.
There are no refrigerators or storage bins for food. They wake up and walk outside to collect what the jungle provides that day. Every family maintains three different gardens in different microecosystems within the forest so that depending on dry season or wet season, one garden is always thriving. They have created microecosystems within the Amazon rainforest for tens of thousands of years, resulting in the most biodiversity per meter of any ecosystem in the world.
If relationship to the natural system is broken, poverty shows up before money does. Poverty is an instant reinforcement of a deep human wound: the belief that we were abandoned by nature. The moment you believe nature is holding back from us, tasting boxed apple juice makes the brain conclude there is something better than nature. High fructose corn syrup lights up neurochemistry like cocaine on the frontal lobe.
High fructose corn syrup is the same molecule as fructose found in most fruit eaten for tens of thousands of years, but it is flipped as the mirror image. This does not occur in nature. The liver cannot understand it as a carbohydrate and must process it as an inflammatory triglyceride. In the bloodstream this causes cardiovascular disease, downstream inflammation of the brain, major depression, and anxiety disorders.
The chemical process is called a racemic. High fructose corn syrup is created through a racemic chemical process that flips the molecule. The reason for doing this is that you can patent a molecule that does not exist in nature. This created an artificial sweetener. The same approach was used in the pharmaceutical industry by finding plant compounds and flipping them so they are non-natural and can be patented.
Zach Bush spent 17 years in academia creating chemotherapy, sitting in labs with cancer cells trying to poison them. He found a family of molecules that did not require poisoning the cell but actually nourished it. His career pivoted when he realized the question of why poison cancer cells.
Cancer is not an invader but the loneliest cell in the human body. A human cell that loses connection and communication with its surrounding environment immediately takes on the traits of a cancer cell. The longer it is isolated, the more malignant it becomes. Malignant means life-threatening.
The sociopath is the same story: one human cell that became so isolated it became malignant in its behavior to life around it. When isolated lonely cancer cells were fed instead of poisoned, they either reconnected or self-eliminated through apoptosis. If they had enough metabolic capacity, they could repair, regenerate, and reconnect. If too damaged, they would dissolve and a stem cell would put down a brand new healthy cell.
Cancer and sociopaths are long-divided symptoms of a declining metabolic life force rather than the one problem with an otherwise healthy system. In a utopian world no one would be raised to create psychopaths, but humans are messy. There has never been a single time in human history with no war.
Joe Rogan references King Solomon's reign when the whole world went into peace for one generation, approximately 2400 years ago after King David. Rogan questions how one could know there were no wars elsewhere such as in Morocco, Australia, or China at that time, given the lack of communication technology like 5G or Twitter.
Zach Bush states there was a technology beyond pyramids called the human body that was fully used and fully telepathic. Ten to twelve thousand years ago humans were communicating much differently. Rogan suggests people have an innate telepathic ability muted by language, talking, and media. Before words, people probably thought in terms of objects like trees, persons, and deer with an understanding of what was being said and felt without words.
Zach Bush confirms there is a chapter in his new book giving an 80,000-year look at human communication from wide open frequency bandwidth of telepathic communication down to text messages. There is a linear decline through steps to more abstract ways of communicating. When we stop feeling each other, we start with tonal language before words, creating tones that give a full sense like singing an opera instead of giving a speech.
Tonal language gave a full body experience where you listen beyond auditory space. The spoken word went straight to the mind and was no longer using the technology of the human body. This improved efficiency and was the beginning of machine-like behavior where we stop feeling the body and start mentally processing information. The brain jumped in size.
Iterations moved from tonal to spoken word, from spoken word to written word, from written word to digital representations of words down to emojis. Hieroglyphs actually carry the information in the form. The shapes of Egyptian hieroglyphs create incredible medical responses when drawn and shown to a human mind, reversing inflammation by looking at the shape because the shape creates ways of transmission.
Ibrahim is one of the greatest minds out of Cairo, Egypt and is in his 80s. Switzerland has hired him to recode their 5G network with these shapes to improve biology and life around the 5G network. These original shapes are embedded in the actual technology of the pyramids. It was a method of communication beyond the human mind, a life force transmission that creates a physiological experience even without understanding the context.
Ibrahim's quote states: When two energy fields are in resonance and exchange information, something happens after the resonance is over. The two systems do not go back to their original state. A sort of vibrational impregnation occurs which means that part of the new information leaves an imprint on the energy system. Systems are then in constant evolution through resonance or interaction.
This describes human beings. It is important to be around positive and happy people because it is really good for you. Being around negative people is terrible for you and for them because they are not attracting nice people and will continue that behavior.
The word biosis refers to the interconnected relationships that make life possible. Joe Rogan's curiosity is the real key to being human. The podcast has been a 16-year impregnation inspired by curiosity. Rogan has made himself available to be impregnated by new information and attracts people who challenge his biology to stretch and grow more. He created a system to receive that much information.
The podcast was just for fun in the beginning, done with friends, and for years did not make money. It started as talking with friends doing morning radio together and moved to the internet. The first notable guest mentioned was Graham Hancock in 2011.
Joe Rogan describes Graham Hancock as one of his first real guests on the show, alongside Anthony Bourdain. Hancock's appearance followed Rogan's reading of Fingerprints of the Gods, which shaped his views on history. Rogan's college-educated friends dismissed Hancock as a charlatan, but Rogan believed Hancock raised valid points. The growing audience numbers enabled Rogan to book guests like Neil deGrasse Tyson, knife makers, and beekeepers. Rogan states he would continue the show even without payment or viewers because he enjoys conversations with fascinating people. He views himself as an antenna, selecting guests purely based on his own interest without executive input or board meetings.
Rogan expresses satisfaction watching people engaged in their crafts, whether cabinet making, engine repair, or painting. He describes being drawn to individuals passionate about their work.
Zach Bush connects Rogan's antenna concept to biological reality, noting that human biology has a broader aperture for receiving information than any other creature. The conversation returns to the pyramids, which Bush argues demonstrate that humans 5,000-10,000 years ago possessed capabilities beyond what current technology can replicate. The Great Pyramid contains 2.3 million stones precisely aligned to true north, south, east, and west. There are no hieroglyphs documenting construction methods, and the structure shows erosion patterns and underlying older structures that challenge conventional timelines placing construction around 4,500 years ago.
Massive statues weighing 1,000 tons were moved 400 miles, feats impossible with current machinery. Bush states that biology, specifically living systems using waveform and antenna principles, enabled these constructions. Energy transmission came from human bodies rather than machines. Core drills found in granite suggest technology involving water, as biology is ultimately carbon and water working together.
Bush describes an amnesia event occurring 5,000-7,000 years ago when global populations lost connection to their intelligence, accompanied by massive loss of life. Advanced civilizations including the Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas constructed underground labyrinths spanning thousands of kilometers. Pyramids existed worldwide, with structures off the coast of Japan exceeding the scale of Egyptian pyramids. These were energy-concentrating technologies.
Bush emphasizes grounding the discussion in lived experience rather than philosophical speculation. The pyramids represent recent history, not ancient myth, with written records appearing shortly after this period.
Bush advocates contextualizing life before examining specific technologies like pyramids or UAPs. The current evidence contradicts the narrative taught in schools. Chlorophyll concentrates light energy more densely per cubic centimeter than nuclear fission or fusion. This energy passes to bacteria and fungi, which support green life in a feedback loop. Greater energy concentration enables more complex communication and collaboration.
Bacteria ferment carbohydrates and fats outside the body, storing sunlight in carbon bonds. Fungi exude enzymes externally, creating mycelial networks that collaborate across miles. The mitochondrial innovation, where bacteria were incorporated into cells, provided a 10x improvement in energy production by adding oxygen and hydrogen to fermentation processes. This enabled multicellular life.
A human body, particularly the colon and surrounding systems, contains more biodiversity and interconnected relationships than the Amazon jungle or coral reefs. Human intelligence is not isolated but an antenna receiving information from nature's ecosystems. The antibiotic era beginning with penicillin in the 1940s initiated widespread destruction of biosis through herbicides and pesticides.
The term antibiotic literally means against life and interconnected relationships. This disruption maps directly to current global chronic disease epidemics and infertility threats.
Rogan criticizes using glyphosate as a desiccant on wheat, which is not its intended purpose and unnecessarily poisons people. Bush explains that the food system relies on chemical inputs to function, but the medical system is the primary beneficiary of this dependency. Bayer, which owns Monsanto, began studying microbiome impacts on human fertility in the 1940s through concentration camp research. Bayer was previously connected to IG Farben before being rebranded after World War II.
Louis Pasteur promoted the view that nature opposes humans and that sterilizing the environment is necessary for survival. Pasteurization reflects this belief that any life in consumed substances could compete with human life. Raw milk faces disproportionate risk framing in media, with relative risk statistics creating alarm despite low actual incidence of harm. Food poisoning more commonly results from industrialized farm runoff contaminating vegetables through artificial irrigation systems.
Bush concludes by noting that understanding life as concentrated light energy enables innovation toward restoring human relationship with nature and becoming a keystone species again.
The conversation examines the last 50 years of antibiotic use alongside herbicides and pesticides. The economy is 100% dependent on these chemicals, creating a situation where people cannot simply be left without alternatives. When asked what food causes the most food poisoning, responses typically list contaminated foods including raw or undercooked poultry, ground beef, other undercooked meats linked to toxin-producing E. coli, leafy greens and other raw vegetables, raw or undercooked shellfish, raw or undercooked eggs, and unpasteurized milk and soft cheeses. These carry serious pathogens like listeria and salmonella. No specific data exists showing exact percentages of what makes people sick most frequently.
The discussion of herbicides and pesticides traces back to the Green Revolution in the 1960s, when the Midwest was positioned to feed the world and eliminate hunger through chemical farming. This belief system began in the 1950s. At the end of World War II, there was a massive glut of oil after the global fossil fuel machine had been revved up to supply the war effort. Oil companies needed a new revenue source. This had begun in the 1905-1910 period when the Rockefellers, the largest oil-producing families, realized carbon molecules could be reinvented into something more valuable than selling oil at 22 cents per gallon.
Through chemical processing, carbon molecules could affect biology, leading to drugs that treat diseases. The Flexner Report came out in 1910, which demonized and laughed out herbalism and 10,000 years of traditional medicine, declaring that small carbon molecules represented the future and the only advanced form of medical care. Rockefeller funded the Flexner Report and built the entire system through Standard Oil, which was broken up through monopolies into Exxon, Mobil, Shell, and others. This created the belief that chemical derivatives of fossil fuels would not only treat diseases but also grow crops.
Chemotherapies like vinristine, used for a host of common cancers, represent a natural compound derived from life, biologically made by algae. Instead of recognizing this as a biologic system that could be integrated into soil systems and food with therapeutic anti-cancer effects, the approach was to separate the algae from nature, create huge vats, and chemically extract the compound. Vinristine today sells for $28,000 a gram. The same principle applied to oil: taking something worth 20 cents and turning it into $28,000 by manipulating molecules and creating a story that it treats a disease attacking humanity.
This created a massive abstraction where problems that shouldn't exist or don't exist are solved. This slippery slope began in the 1910s and accelerated in the 1950s. Penicillin emerged in the late World War II period as the first direct antibiotic and was considered revolutionary. Kids in the 1940s and 1950s received penicillin injections for anything including common colds, sneezes, and red eyes. The thinking was that humans would finally be sterilized, based on Louis Pasteur's late 1800s claim that germs were the only thing killing humans, and eliminating germs would allow humans to thrive.
Antibiotics like penicillin would eliminate the symptom of syphilis, but syphilis was not a disease itself. It was a symptom of degradation of healthy biologic interconnected relationships. This was being argued in the late 1800s during debates with Pasteur over decades of published material. People got syphilis because their systems were compromised, not because syphilis is particularly dangerous. The aristocracy, who were the most well-fed and most separated from nature, were particularly affected. They were not gardening, not touching soil, not making bricks, not building houses, and were separated from nature with layers of convenience technology.
The aristocracy drank heavily and partied because they weren't feeling anything, going after chemicals to feel something. Giving everybody half a million dollars would isolate them further, numb them down, and create drug addiction at the highest levels ever seen. The alternative is to educate children to not pursue money but to see it as providing food, shelter, and basic needs. Once those are covered, the focus shifts to being a person, finding fascinating things, getting an education for curiosity's sake, learning things, growing, picking projects, learning musical instruments, and doing things that are fascinating.
Money does not provide food and shelter. Nature provides these things. The Oshawar tribe has been building houses for 40,000 years with no money. Aboriginal peoples in Australia lived in extreme heat without money or houses for 40,000 years. When people receive air conditioning, they come out of nature. It is not intelligence but comfort driving this behavior. People are naturally inclined to seek comfort, but too much comfort leads to becoming soft, atrophying, getting bored, and becoming depressed. Humans are task-oriented, goal-oriented creatures who like doing things, puzzles, games, and being fascinated.
Zach Bush grew up in government housing in Colorado in 1973 as the Vietnam War ended. The Mung people of Cambodia were displaced because of Agent Orange, a chemical that is a cousin to glyphosate. Both are organophosphate molecules. Agent Orange was dumped over Cambodia and North Vietnam to make the Ho Chi Minh Trail visible from the air. This turned an entire jungle system into a complete moonscape with not a single living life form left after 25 years. The area has since fully recovered because biology returned once humans were displaced.
After the Vietnam War, Monsanto, which was producing Agent Orange, needed a new economy and repurposed itself into a chemical cleaner for industrial pipes. They bought a patent from a Japanese inventor from the late 1950s for glyphosate. In 1974, they used it to clean industrial pipes because it grabs minerals and pulls them out of circulation. The effluent killed fish and everything else when it reached rivers, so it would not pass environmental protection standards. They needed a different purpose at lower concentrations. They repatented it in 1976 as a weed killer and rolled it out as Roundup, which became the most successful weed killer in history.
The organophosphate family of molecules had been killing life throughout Cambodia and Vietnam. The Mung people, some of the most poisoned peoples on the planet, showed no metabolic collapse, no decline in health, and no explosion of cancer despite predictions that Agent Orange causes cancer. Growing up with these people in gardens, Zach observed Cambodian women squatting barefoot in 10-foot plots of soil, telling stories while connected to the land. The biology restored their bodies. The people who stayed in Cambodia and Laos near where Agent Orange was dumped and got cancer were largely displaced to concentration camp-type environments separated from nature.
The US military soldiers showed the highest cancer rates from Agent Orange because they were most separate from nature, eating canned food and MREs half a world away. As humans get further from nature, they become more vulnerable and toxins become a real crisis. Biology in isolation has huge consequences from poisoning. A connected biologic system sees poison as a stressor that makes it stronger. Indigenous cultures that stay connected to nature show remarkable resilience. The story that disease from Europe wiped out 90% of Native Americans may not have the greatest evidence. It is possible that killing people and breaking their relationship to natural systems played a larger role.
Chernobyl represents the largest nuclear disaster in human history at the time. Humans moved out of the region out of fear of cancer, and those in touch with the system experienced huge rates of thyroid cancer, renal disease, and other conditions. Meanwhile, voles, small mouselike creatures living under the ground, have been eating the most radioactive soils on the planet for 30 to 50 years and are now highly radioactive. A geiger counter next to one produces a continuous hum rather than beeps. These are the most radioactive creatures on Earth, yet there is not a single case of pup deformities, no collapse of fertility, and the vole populations are thriving.
The Siberian wolf, predator to the vole in Chernobyl, has quadrupled its population with no birth effects, no cancer, and no consequence from eating highly radioactive voles. When a system is connected to its nature, it will never allow an injury to occur that it does not already have a solution for. At the microbiome level, these wolves and voles survive by upregulating pseudomonas, a bacteria feared in hospitals. Pseudomonas thrives on radioactive material, digesting it and turning it into usable and safer products. The microbiome constantly converts and updates physiology, repairing at a faster rate than injury occurs.
Every organism has a rate of repair and a rate of injury. As long as the rate of repair is slightly faster than the rate of injury, disease never occurs. If nature stays interconnected, the rate of repair steps up to match increased injury. The classic adage holds: if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. A biology practicing biosis, the interconnected relationships that make health and life possible, will always have resources from nature. Money never provides biosis. Nature provides the biotic capacity to overcome any toxicity.
The planet has been making horrible toxins forever, including sulfuric acid pools that once dominated the surface. Biology came right past all of that. Biology grew up in it. Biology has no problem with chemistry because of its phenomenon of light concentration of energy, more energy per cubic centimeter than anything else in the cosmos. Life is a churning machine of iteration, repair, regeneration. Every iteration tends to make new versions of itself to become more biodiverse. New species form, new imagination of nature emerges. The planet Earth teems with unbelievable life. A container that can hold maximum concentration of information and light energy was created, and that is a human.
Humans hold billions of years of stress in their container. The result of stress when connected to nature is more life force, more intelligence, more beauty. Humans have never done utopian things. Humans are part of the stress mechanism of the planet. What humans do is stress the system. The first thing done with airplanes was try to jump out of them. Humans like stress, like the discomfort of pushing the envelope. The planet exists in a universe that loves stress, loves the friction of possibility, loves death because immediately there is rebirth. Every death creates more opportunity for new creation, new imagination.
When everything is perfect, it means everything is reimagining itself all the time. If humans go extinct in coming decades, that is part of a beautiful journey of life iterating. With every hospice patient, there is a moment where life returns. Sometimes they choose more life in the human body. Sometimes they choose what comes next. Near-death experiences reveal a universe that is so interconnected and has nothing to do with a human mind and its perception. It is a full-body experience, an antenna going wide open.
The one thing that cannot be conveyed is helping humans feel what it is like when somebody's antenna goes blowing wide open during a near-death experience. There is nothing that compares to the energetic information that comes through at that moment to a human antenna still biologically connected to Earth but perceiving the whole story. That is the end of addiction. Addiction is the necessary behavior of an organism that believes itself to be abandoned by its infinite reality. Humans believed themselves to be abandoned by nature.
Nature encompasses everything in the firmament of the earth including minerals, plants, and animals, distinct from humans or human-made objects. Modern definitions position humans in opposition to nature rather than as part of it. When humans lose their natural antenna and dull receptors through mental constructs, they begin believing money is the source of things, when in reality money has never birthed anything. Women birth life. Biology is self-perpetuating toward more beauty and more intelligence. The myth that living people need money, IV drips of vitamin C, or injected peptides is described as the biggest myth in the cosmos. Humans are the best antennas made on this planet so far, and using those antennas enables stress that does not harm another individual, characteristic of a sovereign reality where everything is upleveling continuously.
In indigenous understanding, something that gives up its life is not killed but is giving its life to the next. When observing predation like a lion eating an antelope, indigenous groups can identify which antelope will give itself to the lion. This is not because it is weak or broken but due to a felt relationship between predator and prey. Sacred hunting never goes out to kill anything but comes to receive more. The mindset shift required is recognizing everything is sacred and sovereign. When sitting back into that relaxed relationship, food, shelter, and livelihoods come from nature rather than money. Trusting the planet again turns on the antenna, restoring intelligence and memory, reconnecting to information about how pyramids were built because that information remains accessible.
The discussion addresses whether people living in harmony with nature could survive plagues without immunity. The lost city of Z and initial European explorers found a thriving civilization in the Amazon that disappeared within 200 years. The predominant theory attributes this to smallpox and other diseases spreading to people lacking immunity. The counterargument questions how this occurred among people living in complete harmony with nature and challenges whether evidence exists that deaths occurred before displacement from tribal lands and connected systems. Evidence shows diseases spread through tribes, including those on their own, and Native Americans experienced periods of serious famine and lack of nutritious food sources. Introducing novel diseases during times of struggle could compromise immune systems despite living in nature.
The key distinction is that incoming settlers experienced radical divorce from nature spanning thousands of years through innovations in clothing, horses, and layers of technology that interrupted food systems and relationships to nature. They arrived sick. The imprint was less about infectious disease and more about dissonant imbalance. The gut microbiome has an immediate feedback loop to stress signals, particularly cortisol. Spanish colonial armies arrived with unseen weapons and a marauding belief of separation from nature, needing to steal because of scarcity mentality. This scarcity mentality breeds empire rise and fall, colonialism, and ownership models. Indigenous cultures saw themselves as integrated in nature, an element between the cosmos and earth, sitting in the zone between heaven and earth as antennas connected to both cosmos and planet earth.
Aztec architecture literally mirrors the cosmos, as did Egyptian structures. Pyramids were built at 13-degree angles aligned with Orion's belt. Pleiadian star clusters were lasered into stones in Peru and underground temples. This reflects humans as antennas to the universe and to the earth, feeling both simultaneously. Patients in near-death experiences describe cosmic-scale journeys to planets, expanding into the universe, and becoming stars. The precious moment of being a biological antenna allows connection to more energy per cubic centimeter than the cosmos achieves, as suns do not concentrate energy as life does. For tens of thousands of years, people designed and expressed technologies including pyramids and space travel with unbelievable connectivity.
The incoming species appeared human but believed they did not belong to Earth, carrying the kicked-out-of-the-garden narrative. They arrived with a killing mentality different from natural predator-prey relationships. Humans are a natural system that lives, dies, rebirths, and re-dies. When antennas are wide open, the relationship and flow of life through ascension processes is understood. The incoming species was fundamentally opposed to life, antibiotic in behavioral relationship to Earth. The stress felt by interconnected peoples understanding space would have been experienced as infectious disease, similar to how boxed apple juice broke the relationship of 40,000 years of abundance for the Ashwar tribe, placing them in poverty. Energetically, the spiritual or psycho-spiritual awareness of the antenna could break if danger was suddenly felt.
Feeling a sociopath in one's presence triggers a visceral sense of actual danger, distinct from ordinary meanness. The antenna goes up. Imagine an entire civilization encountering a foreign object shooting people, killing them, tearing up gardens, and introducing horses never seen on the continent. Cortisol levels go berserk, immune systems shut down, and gut microbiomes collapse. People experienced diseases of the West not because pathogens were inherently bad or because elements of nature leapt across the ocean to attack, but because they went out of relationship. The antenna shut down, losing context of interconnected biosis with heaven and earth. Fear, guilt, and shame of being kicked out of nature created energetic signals breaking the informational stream and field of connectivity.
Aztecs performed ritual sacrifice, with one Spanish chronicler named Diaz reporting 80,000 people killed over four days during consecration of the temple of Tino. This challenges notions of balanced living with nature. The response frames this as a European projecting its own broken relationship with nature onto observed systems. When asked whether sacrificing slaves represented harmonious connection with nature, the response states inability to defend what occurred without having been there, but offers lived experience with tribes in that exact area where time spent causes the antenna to go wide and sense a bigger reality. Aztec sports resembled a combination of soccer and basketball with a tiny ball struck by any body part except hands, played on huge fields between pyramid structures with a tiny hoop high on the wall. Games lasted for days. The winner, specifically the captain of the team, would be beheaded.
Aztec temples were found already built, described as the place where the gods were born, not constructed by the Aztecs themselves. The same applies to Egyptian structures built thousands of years before modern Egyptians arrived. There is risk of imprinting current belief systems on a distant past that cannot be remembered. The predominant theory for Mayan disappearance remains disease. The goal is not creating a humanity where killing 80,000 people is acceptable, but a situation where the concept of killing goes away. Death becomes reverent rather than an endpoint, viewed as evolution. Tibetan culture holds reverence to death through sky funerals. Bodies are not poisoned with toxic chemicals to prevent decay for viewing. Without reverence for death, bodies are treated as if the container itself is the story.
In hospice settings, people pierce the veil and realize the antenna can sense everything again. The body is recognized as a tiny story of the self, a tiny part of experience. Heartbreak, suffering, fear, guilt, and shame cannot be felt when letting go and piercing the veil. On the other side is radical connectivity energetically, feeling everything including stars and moonscapes in a singularity moment. The amount of information around death is vast, which is why Tibetans honor it thoroughly. It represents the precious moment where a human antenna receives the entire download while still able to transmit it. Missing time in rooms with dying elders means missing the biggest download of life, only discovered on one's own deathbed, possibly dying alone.
The vision is not a world without death but where death becomes the biggest moment of transformation. Ten percent of people going through hospice must be discharged six months later because diseases disappear, health recovers, biology returns, and they develop different relationships with children while creating art never previously made. Near-death experiences produce these outcomes. As a hospital doctor admitting 80 patients a week to die, eight patients weekly were doing what they were not supposed to do, showing more life after glimpsing that everything is perfect and expressing one more thing before letting go of the finite moment.
One of the few public figures who did not allow wealth and attention to break relationship to nature, maintaining connection to people building things and making cars. Turning wrenches, getting cars to go faster, and building houses keeps people real. Living in the woods of Virginia in a self-built home and observing a partner building a village in Panama demonstrates what happens when women start doing development on the planet. The return to being human involves receiving so much information with no need for money to be happy. Continuing to make money the source of safety, food, and housing maintains abstract relationship to nature. Reforming human systems in the context of nature that is abundant and knows only transformation, more complexity, more beauty, and more intelligence enables losing fear of death and moving into reverent sovereignty. Humans are fully resourced by nature itself as cellular creatures, requiring no money to develop from one cell into 70 trillion cells inhabited by 14 quadrillion mitochondria that concentrate sunlight 10,000 times brighter than the sun.
Questioning why money must enter the process of obtaining a saw to cut wood for building a house. All elements discussed represent concentrations of energy. The suggestion that nature rather than the Fed could put resources in place, with the Fed printing fake money. The counter that people must be motivated to innovate and create, with the reason being the ability to make money from it.
Power tool manufacturers like DeWalt employ designers and engineers who work for money to determine specifications including electricity requirements, engine design, speed, and optimal steel for blades. Money facilitates the entire supply chain because workers need payment to show up, warehouses must be funded, health care and dental benefits are provided, and unions may collect dues. This system represents the industrial revolution model where complex manufacturing requires monetary exchange to coordinate multiple people and material science expertise.
Monumental structures including houses, castles, and pyramids were built without the abstract monetary systems used today. The question of how resources were sourced and people were organized for these projects remains unknown, but the construction was not driven by something like the Federal Reserve. The sophistication of the pyramids suggests the underlying system was more advanced than current abstract monetary frameworks.
Modern assumptions that current technological innovation represents the only possible direction for human development may be incorrect. The pyramids exemplify that ancient societies likely pursued different technological paths. Evidence from Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson, and others points to a great cataclysm around 11,000 years ago that aligns with flood myths present in all ancient religions. This event likely destroyed much of the knowledge about how ancient structures were created and why they were built in specific ways.
Mainstream archaeological explanations such as using sand and pushing stones are inadequate for structures involving 500-ton stones transported hundreds of miles through mountains. The precision of symmetrical statues cannot be explained by current understanding of ancient tools. Underground discoveries beneath the pyramids include massive 20-meter diameter columns with spiral patterns extending a kilometer into the earth, which remain unexplained.
Attempting to construct mental stories to explain complex phenomena like the cosmos or the human body leads to disempowered versions of reality. The alternative is to feel rather than know. When the body processes information beyond the mind, conviction emerges from a different source. This capacity enables telepathic communication where information is transmitted through body language and energy rather than words.
A car accident in 2010 led to a near-death experience revealing that what the mind knows represents only a fraction of what can be felt experientially. The body possesses far greater informational capacity than the mind can create. This realization supports living telepathically rather than through abstract systems.
Thousands of patients in clinical settings demonstrate telepathic communication. Autism represents a neurological development that emerged as humans entered complete abstraction through money systems disconnected from nature, medical systems focused on chronic disease management costing $5 trillion annually in the United States alone, and belief systems separated from nature. Autistic neurology cannot be programmed with abstract systems because these individuals feel too much, resulting in what are labeled sensory processing deficits but actually represent minds without cognitive dissonance defense mechanisms.
A documented case involves a young boy who flew over Manhattan in a helicopter and subsequently drew the entire skyline from memory with complete accuracy. The Telepathy Tapes project documents this phenomenon. Autistic individuals access a shared location called the hill where massive information exchange occurs. They cannot accept abstract concepts like death being bad because they feel too much.
Scientific research follows linear pathways that lead to circular conclusions, such as the continued belief that cancer attacks healthy bodies despite Otto Warburg defining cancer as a metabolic symptom in the 1920s. True advancement requires surrendering knowledge bases to feel what is actually occurring. This approach led to recognizing that autism is not a personal disease but a field effect.
The Revolution Health Center opened in 2010 in a rural town of 550 people with no monetary resources. Autistic children presented with severe symptoms including head-banging for 6-8 hours daily creating forehead calluses, fecal and blood smearing when stressed, inability to make eye contact, and stimming behaviors to shut down overwhelming sensory input. Exposure to Native American indigenous practices and energetic therapies including Emotion Code therapy was introduced. Emotion Code involves bringing awareness to stored emotions and using a magnet over the forehead to reset magnetic fields around the brain.
Initial attempts to treat severely autistic children directly failed because they would not approach. Treating mothers first demonstrated safety to the children. After two years, children improved before receiving their own treatments, revealing that autistic neurology expresses a field effect. The children's wide-open antennas receive emotional stressors from everyone in their environment. Treating the entire field including grandmothers, aunts, uncles, and siblings produced undeniable improvements. Removing emotional stressors from anyone touching the child's field resulted in measurable child improvement.
Autistic neurology resembles what indigenous populations experienced when encountering European settlers. Wide-open neurologic systems encountering abstract humans disconnected from nature for a thousand years experienced overwhelming stress signals that collapsed their neurology. Spanish settlers documented by Bartolomé de las Casas committed documented atrocities including cutting off arms and dashing babies' heads on rocks when demanding gold. The United States has killed more people than any other nation in history over 250 years, often under the banner of freedom or religious superiority. A recent Lancet paper documented approximately 35 million deaths from U.S. economic sanctions over the last 40 years without military engagement.
Health assurance cannot come from organizations whose primary focus is profit. Health derives from biology and from the earth that enabled conception. When health systems depend on organizations maximizing profit, they recommend unnecessary drugs and suppress damaging study results.
The Bible verse regarding money originates from 1 Timothy 6:10 in the New Testament, originally spoken in Aramaic. The Dead Sea Scrolls are written in Aramaic. Ancient languages including Aramaic, ancient Hindu scripts, ancient Tibetan scripts, Farsi, and ancient Hebrew contain embedded information beyond symbolic representation. Rumi's Farsi poetry transmits mathematical truth and sacred geometry rather than mere symbolism. Ancient Hebrew letters carried numerical values, providing additional context lost in translations to Latin, Greek, and English.
All native cultures describe natural phenomena using verbs, such as treeing rather than tree. English became the first language to characterize everything as nouns, enabling science to treat phenomena as static and controllable. This linguistic shift separated language from actual movement and living processes, allowing 60% of Earth's surface to be assessed as non-living when described as tree rather than treeing.
Every cancer study and cardiovascular disease study requires breaking every element of nature to isolate variables. Peer-reviewed science often demands breaking every relationship to nature that a cancer cell could possibly have before studying a single protein like TF-1. Everything called "trust the science" today is an aberration from actual life. Science has become a noun-structured belief system with no flow or verbing. Biology is not separate things like bacteria, mitochondria, and human cells. It is life lifing, finding more ways to stack complexity to concentrate more light per cubic centimeter.
There is no tree-human separation. There is only life doing biosis through interconnected relationships. The human genome project began in 1992 expecting 400,000 genes because researchers knew the body contained 400,000 different proteins, following the Watson and Crick model where one gene makes one RNA that makes one protein. By 1996 the project finished 25 years ahead of schedule with only 25,000 genes. Subsequent teams found 19,000 genes after correcting double-counting. Humans have less than 20,000 genes.
A flea has 30,000 genes and a fruit fly has 13,000 genes, placing humans genetically between the two. Only 1.5% of human DNA codes for genes. The remaining 98.5% was labeled junk DNA for 25 years until researchers realized biology preserves junk DNA more carefully across generations than actual genes.
The 98.5% of non-coding DNA stores genetic information for mitochondria. A single human cell contains around 200 mitochondria of many different species variants that change genetic sequencing rapidly. Mitochondria store their genetic information in the double helix of the human cell nucleus. They access their genes inside the human nucleus, pull out RNA, and decode proteins to reproduce every three days throughout a person's life. DNA functions as an antenna system taking in information and unwinding and rewinding to reveal different genetic sequences to all life within the human ecosystem.
Humans cannot be a species because genetic data places them between a flea and fruit fly. The magic of being human exists in the 98.5% of DNA that does not code for human genes, which likely codes for all of life. Humans function as a keystone species genetically, serving as the life record where life ascends through the biologic matrix called the human body, which is actually an ecosystem rather than a species.
The antibiotic era began 70 years ago and wiped out diversity inside the human body. Herbicide and pesticide toxicity impacts the entire ecosystem expressing itself through the massive genomic library rather than direct effects on human cells. If all 50 to 70 trillion human cells were strung end to end with their DNA, the DNA would wrap around Earth's equator two million times. The genome functions as a warehouse of life on Earth. The human genome can be rearranged into 178 puzzle pieces that spell "pig" perfectly.
The antibiotic era is ending because it has crippled biology and fertility to unsustainable levels. The next era is a biological renaissance. The historical Renaissance coincided with a remembrance that opened the antenna. Dr. Ibrahim out of Egypt is remembering hieroglyph technology and waveform influence on biology rather than inventing it. He draws shapes on napkins that represent remembered information rather than newly created content. Autism represents a supercharged version of this opening antenna. Autistic neurology is so wide open that autistic children can remember entire cityscapes after flying over them once. They are not abnormally genius. They are minds that are unfiltered with bodies still in context with nature.
Indigenous elders of the Koi people have 100,000 years of unbroken oral history, twice as long as any other group on the planet. The Koi, Aboriginal, Native American, and deep Peru traditions share experiential traits with autistic individuals including telepathic communication with forest systems and receiving information directly from moon cycles without study.
Pyramids were organized rather than built through mind transmission of information into natural materials. Stones were cut with frequency as a transmitter. Anti-gravity movement occurred through waveform interruption of relationships between bodies. Gravity requires two bodies in relationship. Waveforms can interrupt that relationship. UAPs and pyramids become understandable through quantum rather than purely Newtonian frameworks.
The current renaissance is fueled by reaching the breaking point of human neurology where old stories can no longer be sustained. Every podcast challenges the human mind to stretch past its capacity to keep old stories alive. Curiosity functions as the device that breaks false things. The field effect of two fields coming into presence together creates impregnation between them. All humans are curious. If someone is not curious, they have been separated from nature long enough and drugged, which represents nature deficit disorder. Three nights of camping outside reverts the immune system 30 years, turns T cells back on, and activates all stem cells.
Glyphosate at one part per million or even 10 parts per billion collapses ATP production within 30 minutes. In 1976 chemical residues entered the food system and shut down light per cubic centimeter. Obesity appeared in the 1980s because mitochondria poisoned by the antibiotic could no longer burn calories at the cellular level. Diabetes followed within years as fat stored in the liver created insulin resistance. Widespread allergies developed by the 1990s as the immune system failed metabolically. Wheat allergy to gluten began in 1992 through synergistic interaction with glyphosate.
Autoimmune disease followed allergies as the body lost ability to distinguish outside from inside. Neurologic conditions including ADHD, autism, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, MS, and ALS appeared in logarithmic increases within a two-year period. Cancer epidemic launched by the early 2000s with leukemias and lymphomas initially, then solid tumors including prostate, breast, and colon cancer. Fertility collapse began in the early 2010s with 110 countries now below replacement rate. The United States sits at 1.6 instead of the 2.1 replacement rate. Endocrine disruption, genomic instability, methylation defects, and inability to detox emerged alongside stories of Lyme disease that actually represent toxicity trapped by failed repair mechanisms.
Gender dysregulation in the womb appeared regularly by the mid-2010s. Every fetus begins at neutral neither male nor female. Around 90 days of embryologic development a massive energy discharge from mitochondria polarizes biology toward male or female. Multiple puberties occur including late uterine phase, ages 4-5, ages 10-13, ages 18-21, and a final burst in the late 20s. These energetic discharges create polarity away from neutral. The deep programming of behavioral traits appears by 6-9 months of age with observable differences between male and female infants.
Today 3 to 4 billion pounds of glyphosate are sprayed globally each year. This quantity of antibiotic has reduced metabolic life force to produce chronic disease explosion, infertility collapse, and gender dysregulation. A species goes extinct by losing metabolic capacity to concentrate light energy. Biosis consists of interconnected relationships that make life possible. Undermining those relationships decreases the number of relationships per cubic centimeter.
A pattern emerges showing a decrease in repair and regeneration. The rate of repair versus the rate of injury goes out of balance. A previous rate of injury from eating bread shows that gluten has a slight impact on gut behavior with a slight decrease, leading to a loss of fidelity as the whole system starts to degrade.
The last 15 years have been spent building systems with people already tuning into a wider antenna to understand what biology looks like when fully supported. Online programs called Journey have been created to guide humanity back into natural systems. These programs fully support not only the biology and the way it repairs and regenerates, but also fully open up the antenna to remember what humans were supposed to be doing here. This includes remembering what it feels like to be between heaven and earth, floating in a cosmic stew of curiosity, creativity, and productivity.
This approach will make humans humans again by allowing children to become between again. Children should stop being programmed into machine-like behavior and start to open up their antenna. Society can decide to do this proactively, or autism will emerge to the point where one in three children will have autism by 2035. The mechanical history and anti-nature, antibiotic nature will come to an end because bodies are always going to win. Nature is always going to reinvent herself out of whatever stressor is pushing on her at that moment.
Right now, human behavior is pushing on nature. If this stops and nature is allowed to come back in, humans get to be part of the solution. People step right back into the right relationship with the keystone species.
For those who want to see more and read more, the website is Zack Bush MD. The book is Biological Elegance, available only there. It is not being put on Amazon and nobody is being asked to go after money or abstract systems. Engagement is being asked for. Followers are not wanted. Builders, creators, and co-creators who will come build this new world together are wanted. The excitement and passion is for this vision. Joe Rogan is thanked for pushing in this direction, and the conversation is described as fun with plans to do another one.
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