JRE MMA Show #175 with Shakur Stevenson
In a Nutshell
Shakur Stevenson details his dominant win over Teofimo Lopez, crediting tactical brilliance, discipline, God-given talent, and influences like Terence Crawford and Andre Ward, while asserting he's boxing's most complete fighter with untapped potential at age 28. He emphasizes brain health via defensive mastery, learning from elite sparring (Lomachenko, Crawford), mental resilience against upsets, and avoiding cheating opponents amid doping discussions. Rogan and Stevenson praise Ward's perfect exit, critique weight class jumps and PEDs (e.g., Beterbiev's atypical tests, historical scandals), and explore boxing's superiority over MMA striking.
These notes were generated by AI and may contain inaccuracies.
Joe Rogan congratulates Shakur Stevenson on his standout performance against Tapfimo, calling it a giant wakeup call for boxing, showing Stevenson's high level against a world champion who beat legit guys including Lomachenko.
Stevenson attributes it to hard work, dedication, and God-given ability, plus intelligence and starting young. He started boxing at five. Tapfimo started around seven, similar experience, but Stevenson's instincts kicked in during the fight, feeling like an out-of-body experience where his brain knew how to win.
Rogan praises Stevenson's tactical fighting, setting traps, avoiding damage, taking few punches. In the recent fight against William Zepeda, Stevenson stood and exchanged partly on purpose to gain respect, starting hot because outboxing and moving might make the fight harder due to judges favoring active forward pressure.
"I had to make sure like the judges know who's winning."
He took some to give some, unusual for him. Post-fight, he said he's not fighting like that again.
Stevenson avoids punishment seeing old-school boxers who now struggle to speak clearly, unlike Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather who remain articulate. He wants to speak well to his kids and grandkids.
Rogan supports prioritizing defense, tactics, ring IQ over slugging for entertainment, as it sacrifices brain health.
Stevenson used half-out jabs, popping Tapfimo unexpectedly, frustrating him. Beautiful check right hooks, tuning him up with skill, movement, ring IQ. Tapfimo could only touch body shots when firing up.
Stevenson feels he's the best fighter in boxing, most complete, can outbox or beat at their game. Loves Usyk, Bivol, Eastern European styles, steals from them.
Rogan notes this mindset after dominating divisions (hard to get fights at 135, now 140). Tapfimo performance scared others; he's never looked out of place before.
Stevenson was impressed by Tapfimo's Times Square card against Arnold Barboza, making him look inferior, motivating Stevenson to test him.
Levels exist; people unaware of Tapfimo's quality should watch Barboza, Lomachenko fights. Mindset "I am the best" plus hard work beats them.
Stevenson emphasizes discipline, sacrifices for 100% fight night condition, often uncredited. He's locked in, on social media post-gym.
Fight was only 70% of capability, like an okay gym day; has better days. He's improving, mindset of not peaking yet leads to all-time great status via sustained discipline over years, despite grind of 12-week camps away from family.
Early career trials (hand problem, underperformance) prepared him; now unbeatable without full preparation. Age 28, prime (28-34).
Terence Crawford elevated Stevenson's game via gym observation—bad days, good days, fight night prep, confidence. Sparring him builds belief: if he can't hurt me, no one can. Crawford switches orthodox/southpaw, does everything, sets traps (e.g., straight left into hook off Canelo counter).
Crawford better than Sugar Ray Leonard, Pernell Whitaker? Iron sharpens iron; around him since 19, at his house playing 2K, arguing, competitive.
Pre-Canelo, critics dismissed Crawford's opponents as low-level despite quality. Elite make everyone look lesser, like prime Roy Jones. Crawford from 135kg to 168kg, virtuoso shutout (Canelo maybe one round), undefeated, unscathed, all faculties intact.
Stevenson's goal: leave boxing financially secure, undefeated, fun while it lasts, not needing money like some. Floyd spent more than earned, lawsuits (owes Logan Paul), issues despite loving boxing/gym.
Prefers Andre Ward's exit: undefeated, two-division champ, Olympic gold, declined Canelo comeback for commentary role, brain intact. Ward helped Stevenson's career with detailed advice (e.g., weight issues), favorite amateur fighter.
Ward fought most career with one left arm (best arm, left-handed), shoulder surgery later, still not 100%. Beat prime Kovalev (power, jab, right hand), got dropped, recovered, won—stamped legacy. Later Kovalev washed vs. Canelo.
Loves Kovalev's distance-keeping, Povetkin, Bivol, Usyk, Lomachenko.
Stevenson sparred Lomachenko unpaid to test vs. #1 pound-for-pound. Felt he outboxed over six rounds first day, but second day 12 straight rounds: good first eight, Lomachenko paced up last four due to Stevenson's fatigue (conditioning lesson), though skillfully superior in range, distance, speed. Both prepping fights.
Sparring deterred fight; Lomachenko saw young Stevenson at 126, now bigger/stronger.
Sparred Tapfimo three rounds; Tapfimo claimed getting off, but Stevenson felt better. Watched Lomachenko-Tapfimo fight thousand times pre-fight; Tapfimo's piston jab standout.
Teofimo Lopez knew Lomachenko was hard to hit and came out explosive. He looked good, earning Lomachenko's respect with speed. Lopez was faster and used it to his advantage. He was bigger and dangerous, throwing power with every punch, even his jab. Shakur felt Lopez's strength when fighting him; shots on the glove felt solid. Lopez is jacked and ripped, but the fight with Shakur was a wakeup call. It could be 50/50 mentally—some fighters don't recover from embarrassment. Lopez came back from being dropped early by Kambosos, a crazy upset in the first round. Lopez fought dumb, trying to knock him out immediately. After Lomachenko, overconfidence messed with his head.
Shakur stays away from overconfidence by building opponents up in his mind despite his own confidence.
Fighters go in unprepared thinking opponents are below their level and get knocked out. Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson (42-1 underdog): Douglas's mom died, motivating him. Known as super talented in gym but not dedicated, he put in work. Threw jab-hook combinations effectively. Final combination knocked Tyson out. Joe Rogan learned at a gas station and was shocked, expecting Tyson to rise even after knowing the result.
Mike didn't expect him to be that good. It was a shocker for everybody.
That's boxing—upsets happen. Gym fighters with talent underperform under bright lights due to pressure and nerves.
Shakur felt pressure fighting Lopez but knew it was life or death, choosing his life. Potential world champions exist in gyms but falter on fight night. Difference is mental: what you think and believe comes out.
It's either me or him. My life or your life and one of us got to go.
Some talented fighters let fear of losing control them; others attack fears, knowing outcomes are predetermined. Shakur built this mindset from little brothers and sisters, especially brothers. In amateurs, losing meant coming home to them throwing opponents' names in his face, like Joseph Adorno who beat him. He can't come home without the win.
Custom trained Tyson, hypnotizing him: "You don't exist, only the task exists," making him a machine. Shakur's grandfather (coach) provides energy during fight week, amping him up like amateur days. Must stand on business for him. Family is everything; Shakur enjoys vacations and time with family and daughter over fame, cars. As a kid wanted fame but now dislikes phones recording him—everyone bleeds, all human. Balance elite status with being human. Great fights inspire.
Shakur claimed to be the best; needed breakout against respected opponent like Teofimo Lopez, seen dominating in Times Square. Everyone else played safe: Devin Haney fight odd, low adrenaline like sparring. Shakur cheered Ryan Garcia vs. Rolly Romero: "Throw the hook." Unexpected loss for Ryan.
Ryan beat Devin Haney (incredible), got popped for something. Performance against Haney undeserved credit since caught. Steroids aid recovery, harder training, power, but left hook was on point. Devin winning quiet moments; Ryan's loud knockdowns swayed it. Without drops, Devin wins. Ryan looked good vs. Mario Barrios (tailor-made: durable but not fast). Ryan fast, used feet, distance, length, showed right hand all night. Left hook world-class, thrown straight and over guard.
Talk of matchup, but must make sense. Shakur walks 40s, 147 last weight class at 28, not soon. Ryan said fight at 140. Javonte Davis fight at 136 with 10-pound rehydration clause. Ryan looked weak; paycheck tempted him. Why accept disadvantages with big name? Only way to get fight, like Canelo vs. Floyd at 152 (no rehydration clause). Canelo normally 154; last pounds death. Floyd virtuoso regardless, but smart advantage.
Rehydration clauses crazy when opponent drops weight classes. Understandable if going up like to 147—not natural weight. Hard to find PPV big names at 135/140; too good.
First pro fight new experience: pros dirtier, introduce dirty boxing. Headbutted on purpose. Amateurs don't adjust well. Need punch placement, power to earn respect. Critics say Shakur has "pillow hands"—nonsense. If true, opponents shield and swing. Shakur fights smart: half-speed jab to full blast, accumulation frustrates, confuses. Loves outboxing opponents. Teofimo confused by speed. Corner yelled "hit him," clueless. Needed tactical switch-up; dad instructions inadequate as Teofimo usually controls.
Tio needed tactical advice and instruction on his opponent's strategies. He had to switch it up to confuse the opponent. His dad is a real coach but used to Tio's power and amazing performances. Against someone on a different level, preparation with a game plan is essential. No game plan was evident. No one in his camp was asked about the game plan or what would be different.
Shakur ran into Tio after the fight in the back; it was a good conversation, but Tio was alone momentarily, which felt bad. His manager cleaned it up, and they said they were with him all night. The last thing you want is a fighter abandoned after a loss.
The sport treats Tio poorly now, acting like he's terrible, but he deserves respect for stepping up against a fighter nobody else wants to face. He got in the ring, laid it on the line, and tried. Tio may never separate from his father or bring in a world-class trainer to recognize and improve his flaws.
During the fight, Tio had a coach from Florida in his corner giving good advice, but Tio didn't hear or listen. Father-son teams have conflict; dads stay on top of their fighters, making it less fun. Shakur's granddad was one of the best coaches because he allowed Shakur to love boxing himself.
At football games, Shakur's pop supported wins but after a loss said, "In boxing, you only lose because of yourself," highlighting personal responsibility. This steered Shakur to boxing without hounding. Fathers in boxing often choose for their sons and are overbearing in the corner.
Father coaches must separate being a father from being a coach. As a father, instructions are reciprocated wrong; as a coach, fighters listen better. The father-son relationship makes sons rebel: "Fuck off, dad." Especially without technical advice, Tio had no answer for Shakur's techniques and bad habits.
Elite training environment with Terrence Crawford and other top fighters exposes flaws in the gym. If not worked on there, it's exposed on fight night.
Amateur career provides experience but gym development with quality sparring matters most. Some fighters improve massively in the gym without tournaments, then dominate one and surprise everyone.
Lomachenko should have fought at 126, not 140; he's a small guy, tarnishing his career perception against bigger opponents like Tio, who looked huge and dangerous, disrupting strategy with power. Fighters chase multiple titles and money at higher weights, though Lomachenko wasn't money-hungry but chased undisputed.
Lomachenko got robbed against Devin Haney at 135; both Shakur and Joe scored it for Lomachenko after multiple rewatches. It messed with Haney's head, creating a mental battle. Haney wasn't his best at 135; he belongs at 140.
MMA lacks weight classes, creating huge gaps like 155-170 or 185-205, forcing small guys against bigger ones. UFC resists more classes to keep "pure" with eight champs.
Shakur plans to watch UFC this weekend in Vegas. Boxing is his sport, so he favors it over MMA, though understands MMA arguments like diverse skills. Boxing has superior punching skill and talent; MMA punching is sloppy due to takedowns, kicks, knees, elbows, and leg exposure. Certain boxing positions invite calf kicks, numbing legs.
Few MMA fighters could be elite pro boxers; impossible at Shakur's level without lifelong dedication. Elite MMA wrestlers dominate takedowns.
Terrence Crawford could do well in MMA; he wrestled a USA team wrestler effectively, and his son won a state title. Wrestling is humbling, builds real strength; wrestlers ragdoll opponents.
Every fight/round starts standing, allowing striking counters during takedown transitions. Examples: Alex Pereira (destructive kickboxer, two-division champ), Jon Jones (everything fighter, started as wrestler, best ever for studying opponents, interviews, tendencies, setting traps).
Pre-fight, Cormier called out Jones's plan to exploit his right dip tendency; Jones landed the exact head kick. Jones always figures out wins. He prioritizes big legacy fights over high-risk like Tom Aspinall (interim champ after Jones vacated title). Aspinall had eye surgeries post-poke. Potential big White House UFC card ahead.
Joe is UFC commentator, not involved in UFC boxing (Kellerman, Andre Ward). More competing organizations raise fighter pay; UFC dominates MMA, unlike boxing focused on fighters/champs regardless of promoter (e.g., GGG vs. Canelo).
PFL fighters lack recognition except hardcore fans. Claressa Shields fought PFL; she's the heavyweight champ, wild, best ever, two Olympic golds, multiple undisputed. Women's boxing lacks respect; she's underappreciated due to limited competition but is the GOAT.
Shakur respects Shields as his GOAT; she bravely tried MMA against lesser competition, broke out of chokes, but should stick to boxing to avoid losses. She's exciting, elevates women's boxing, deserves all flowers. Few women want to box; men's numbers dwarf women's.
Shields is a superstar filling big arenas. Past standouts: Christy Martin, Laila Ali, Anne Wolfe (beast who flatlined opponents, great trainer).
Anne Wolfe trained James Kirkland brutally; he was ultra-prepared with her but lost key fights like vs. Canelo without her. Best coaches are former boxers: Robert Garcia, Bowe McGirt (great fighter), Bulmac. Emanuel Steward had 94-3 amateur record, won 1963 National Golden Gloves bantamweight, cranked Kronk gym to 98 degrees for heat training.
Top-level boxers in the gym push each other to get better. Iron sharpens iron. You can't be the best boxer in your gym with everyone else below you and reach world-class level—impossible. Bring in high-level guys. Shakur keeps young up-and-coming kids around, like his little cousin (great boxer, sparred with him yesterday) and Emanuel Chance (19 years old, very skillful). Even around them, Shakur picks up things—they don't even know it, but he's mentally locked in, watching and studying with notepad out everywhere.
Everybody does everything different; pick up little things and incorporate them. Right before the fight with Teo, Shakur watched an 8-year-old kid, Tmaine Williams, fight Dusty Harrison. Tmaine was the shorter fighter but used his jab, kept range and distance. Shakur studied this right before the biggest fight of his life. You can absorb from everybody, learn from anywhere.
Shakur learns more watching Terrence Crawford than being in the ring with him. In the ring, it's chess matches. Watching, he sees what Crawford does: knew before Spence fight and Canelo fight what was happening. In locker room watching Crawford, called his bookie: "Yo, put me some more money in." Watching gym shows hard sessions, great days, bad days, recovery, how he comes back. Crawford is one of the most competitive human beings.
Shakur sees Crawford go home, watch sparring, adjust brain instantly—next day in gym, everything on point. Shakur learned this from him; used to never watch own sparring. Saw Crawford watch on iPad, then spar like a million bucks with insane adjustments. Now Shakur does it: after bad day, watches to analyze mistakes ("Why do I keep doing that?"), sees open shots, corrects next time. Helps tremendously. Watch yourself as observer, see good and bad, correct bad—better than just remembering.
Bad habit in boxing gym: turns into a fighter instead of boxer. Gets hit, realizes brain locked on fighting, not boxing. Fighting: emotional, trying to beat up, contest of who's bigger/stronger. Boxing: on top of game, hit without getting hit—that's what Shakur does best. Stick to best; fighting in arsenal but not randomly. Never emotional in pro fight, but in sparring: emotions take control instead of fun. Composure: not thinking, just trying to beat ass. Keep emotions out, be present, not move off feelings. Emotions screw up fighters—many wrapped in feelings. Fighters don't study themselves; Shakur checks in, corrects wrong/right. Rare attribute—fighters depend on coaches. Shakur depends on grandfather when needed but mainly himself.
Tries to teach younger guys (cousin, Manny): tune in with self, watch footage, correct wrongs. They're young, will pick up over time—lead by example. Goal: once done boxing, help them as secret weapon in gym, not full coach.
Boxing won't last forever; post-retire within boxing, do best, make tons of money—even as secret weapon brought to camps. Has all the IQ, watches too much boxing—life is watching TV/iPad. Sees self taking over the world using same boxing focus elsewhere, be the best. Journals a lot, writing things down—will make millions in different atmosphere.
Wish more boxers wrote books—valuable knowledge on watching/analyzing self, lessons learned. Boxing knowledge word-of-mouth in gyms or from commentators like Andre Ward, Roy Jones. Huge sport, pinnacle of combat sports, but few books on technique, style, learning, adjustments (e.g., overtraining after hearing Emanuel Stewart).
Andre Ward's book: Killing the Image: A Champion's Journey, Fighting and Forgiveness (narrated by Ward). Free game in there—even for training fighters. Ward did it right, went out on top. Need more books to document camp knowledge before lost (e.g., Floyd's secrets). Floyd told Shakur before last fight: stretching is powerful. Simple, but people don't do it—even MMA fighters who kick don't stretch. Example: world champion couldn't get legs high in jiu-jitsu position, doesn't stretch.
Floyd Mayweather: Did everything right, hit hard maybe 3 times whole career. Wizard, brain at different level, insanely disciplined, always in shape (club in jeans/boots, run home). Master of pinpoint precision, movement, knowing position—hard to hit but stands right in front. Similar to Shakur. Mental far ahead.
Floyd-Manny on Netflix: high-level, Manny still elite. Floyd looks great in exhibitions/sparring, hasn't lost step. Shakur doesn't see Manny beating Floyd (Manny solid vs. Barrios, but no). Floyd at 46 could return, light up Barrios—levels. Even diminished Floyd far ahead; stays in shape, eats right, no body damage. Appreciates Floyd—helped without business, real dude.
Emulate Floyd: rarely hurt (count on one hand), trouble-free. Rematches masterful (e.g., first Maidana rough, second like master). Mosley fight: got cracked mid-round (prime), lost balance but stayed up, fought back harder. Shakur wants that experience—never cracked in pro, wants to show more than good boxer, he's tough too. Told Andre Ward; Ward questioned why. Nobody can crack Shakur—mentally too far ahead.
No business talks since last fight—too good, scares opponents. Sights on: maybe back to 135 for Ring belt (likes it; has at 130/140, not 135). Opponent: Raymond Muratalla (beat Andy Cruz). Not about opponent, just the belt. If orchestrating: Tank at 135 generates most interest (big name), despite Tank's legal issues/social media bashing (made it seem Shakur needs him—disrespectful, Shakur independent). Tank had high-profile KOs (Ryan), but Shakur's Lopez win perfect/spectacular.
147 big jump, later than sooner. Prepare slowly, put on some weight—can't jump in little at 147 vs. bigger guys (Ryan 170 in ring, ripped). Body gets accustomed to bigger; hard to go back down (e.g., Roy Jones up to heavyweight vs. John Ruiz, back to light heavy never same—he was 200
Roy Jones Jr. went up to heavyweight at 200 pounds solid, ripped and muscular. Losing 25 pounds to return to light heavyweight at 175 is extremely hard. Rory aimed to be the only fighter to win heavyweight title from middleweight, which he achieved. His fight against Tarver was confusing; Tarver beat Roy despite Roy seeming superior. They had fought before with a close decision loss for Tarver. Tarver got in Roy's head pre-fight: > "You got any excuses tonight Roy? Any questions for the champion?"
That was wild, turning up the intensity. When Tarver dropped and knocked out Roy, it was shocking. Dropping from 200 to 175 wears out the body. Weight cut likely contributed more than Tarver's skills, though Tarver has elite skills and looked elite that night, rising to the occasion as an awkward southpaw. In their first fight, Roy was better but stood on ropes too long. First Roy-Tarver fight was after Roy-Ruiz, which wore him out. Once up in weight in 30s, hard to add muscle naturally—often involves Mexican supplements or steroids. Stopping them to cut weight messes up endocrine system.
Fighters gaining lean muscle mass generally use steroids, peptides, or supplements juicing the endocrine system. In 90s pre-testing, many were on steroids. MMA example: everyone juiced pre-sanctioning. Day-of-fight tests are intelligence tests—cycle off to avoid positives. Big MMA camps had scientists helping cheat. Pride FC in Japan sold out 90,000-seat arenas; no steroid testing, even encouraged it—contract stated "We do not test for steroids." Rampage never took steroids. Enson Inoue confirmed Pride encouraged steroids.
Low-level fighters sometimes punch unnaturally hard due to cheating. In MMA, post-testing, some fighters' bodies shrunk, power vanished—knockout artists became unable to KO. Physiques deflated like balloons. Same in boxing post-positive tests. Barry Bonds' Balco scandal: undetectable steroid "the clear." Modern UFC uses random USADA then Drug-Free Sport testing—unannounced urine/blood anytime. Shakur tested 4-5 times last camp. No VADA/USADA for Roy-Ruiz fight; relied on athletic commissions' intelligence tests. Manny Pacquiao rumors believable due to moving from 109 to 154 lbs while keeping knockout power and physique, no modern year-round USADA.
Alistair Overeem vs. Brock Lesnar: at weigh-in, looked like comic book superhero "Ubermensch," jacked monster destroying everyone. Started career as skinny 205 lb light heavyweight. Post-USADA, softer, less power—still skillful kickboxer/MMA fighter but not unstoppable. Images show dramatic before/after difference.
Shakur avoids cheating opponents; even if they cheat, they won't hit him. Problem if opponent at his level is cheating. Competitive unknown guys like Lamont Roach exist. Roach-Gervonta Davis fight: Roach won, had knockdown but ref didn't call it—Gervonta took knee claiming hair in eyes, amateurish. Shakur spars Roach, knows he's legit. Requires VADA testing in negotiations. MMA was wild west pre-testing.
Losing to cheater would make Shakur crash out. Combat sports cheating directly helps hurt opponent—life or death unlike baseball (would encourage steroids for home runs). Prichard Colon killed by Sabriye Matias (likely Prichard Cardona? context: Matias), who recently popped positive pre-loss to Dton Smith (Dawson Smith?). Matias killed one opponent. Osterine (Ostarine): selective androgen receptor modulator for muscle growth, bone density, fat loss; banned by WADA/FDA, side effects liver toxicity, testosterone suppression, cardiovascular risks. Before/after images show dramatic muscle changes.
Some have god-given power; out-of-shape still hit boom hard. Boxing punching power can be enhanced but crazy power (Ernie Shavers, Deontay Wilder) is gift. Wilder: Teddy Atlas calls right hand "eraser"—one shot erases mistakes. Doesn't punch until perfect shot, then it's over. Might be greatest heavyweight one-punch KO artist; hardest puncher ever? Ernie Shavers harder—Ali said nobody hit harder. Wilder 209 lbs vs. Fury I, like giant Tommy Hearns with torque. Wish he'd retire after achievements/money. Next: vs. Dillian Whyte? Both same age, 50 fights.
Great time for boxing. Bivol-Beterbiev trilogy? Want Bivol vs. Beterbiev. Beterbiev too big for Canelo (200 lbs natural). Canelo fought Bivol knowing he'd win, loss killed Beterbiev chances. Beterbiev fighting Ramirez at cruiser, drop to light heavy vs. Bivol—best vs. best. Beterbiev 40, crusher with crazy style/power; sparring stories of hits disorienting.
Beterbiev recommended fight-night gloves to strengthen Shakur's hands. Shakur does rice buckets too.
Shakur watched Beterbiev fight Ball front row. Beterbiev catches shots on his glove, punching it hard. Ball took those shots at 39 years old. We missed his prime. Beterbiev fought Gvazalia overseas and beat him up badly. He was 39-0 with 39 knockouts at that level, stopping everybody. His power looks natural, not like steroids.
Beterbiev got caught with something. In 2024, he had an atypical drug test result. Adverse findings may have threatened. Atypical finding is not a violation; requires more testing. Beterbiev underwent examinations at VADA request; VADA reported negative results from follow-up test. Atypical findings for human growth hormone and 5D-androstanediol, both occurring naturally in the body. Further testing determines if athlete naturally produces at greater levels than average or if elevated levels indicate anti-doping violation. Could be natural high levels or cheating.
Documentary Icarus covers 2014 Winter Olympics drug scandal in Russia. Bryan Fogle, cyclist and filmmaker, planned to document a cycling race naturally then on steroids to show differences, as cycling is dirty (Tour de France blood doping, bike engines). He worked with Gregory Rodchenkov, head of Russian anti-doping (really doping federation). Rodchenkov advised on steroids. Russians got caught during filming; Rodchenkov fled and revealed: they swapped dirty urine for clean via hole in wall at storage facility, using micro-abrasions to open unopenable jars. Entire Russian team doped. Led to ban of whole Russian team in follow-up Olympics (Brazil 2016). Russia competed in 2016 as individuals, not as Russia, in later Olympics.
Russians pioneered cheats, like Eastern European women weightlifters. Without VADA, Drug-Free Sport, or USADA, competitors seek advantages. Shakur hates it, but it comes with boxing. Congratulations to Shakur on career, especially post-Lopez fight respect. He's a Giants fan. Shakur thanks for opportunity on one of the best podcasts.
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