162 Tumors, Stage 4 Cancer. She Did Carnivore and THIS happened.
In a Nutshell
Kelly, diagnosed with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer and over 162 tumors across her lungs and bones, was told she'd need lifelong chemo with a 3-month prognosis; after 7 years of treatment and 15 months on strict carnivore (mainly beef, eggs, occasional bacon/fish), a PET scan showed no live cancer—only two healed spots—allowing her to stop chemo. She regained energy, lost weight despite hormone blockers, cleared brain fog, and now lives actively with family, while her husband dropped 130 lbs and reversed artery blockage. Key takeaways: carnivore eliminates inflammatory processed foods/sugars that feed cancer, mindset and faith are crucial, doctors ignore nutrition—take control with a 30-day elimination trial for metabolic healing.
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Kelly was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer that returned with over 65 tumors in her left lung, and in her spine, sternum, sacrum, both hips, and femur. Doctor stopped counting at 160 tumors. Told she would never stop treatment, treatment for life. If she made it past 3 months, doing good; anything after is a gift. Live every day like your last.
Doctor suggested PET scan; if clean, no need to continue chemo. PET scan came back spotless, no sign of disease or lesions. Two small spots showed healed cancer, no live cancer.
Carrie introduces Kelly from Healing Humanity. Kelly posted on membership site: Stage 4 metastatic breast cancer to lungs and bones, told on oral chemo and treatments for life. Surpassed typical 3-month window for stage 4 patients. After 7 years of treatment and over 1 year on carnivore, told she could stop oral chemo. Had over 162 tumors and lesions.
Kelly, 66 in August, lives in Arizona. Journey started 2007. In 90s, healthy, worked out, best shape. 2000s in concession business: ate hot dogs, nachos, shaved ice, away from nutrition, swelled up, thought from Arizona heat. 2007 got health insurance, scheduled exam, found breast lump via self-exam. Diagnosed almost stage 3 breast cancer (some said stage 2). Next year bald, swollen, horrible, but survived.
Went back to corporate work at hospitals. 2019 as Medicare broker, busy open enrollment, felt unwell, thought bronchitis. Husband took her to ER. X-rays showed issue, hospitalized, pleural effusion with 9 liters fluid around left lung, drained after 9 days. Diagnosed metastatic breast cancer return.
Over 65 tumors in left lung, spine, sternum, sacrum, both hips, femur; doctor stopped at 160, too much. Without ER visit, lucky to live 3 more months. Started oral chemo, bone infusions, hormone blockers. Worked, lived 7 years instead of 3 months but felt miserable: puffy, swollen, avoided mirrors, no energy, foggy brain, declining work performance, weight gain.
Tried diets, convinced hormone blockers prevented weight loss. Followed Dr. Gundry (keto vegetarian, little meat/protein) because husband wanted vegetarian. Learned not all vegetables good (nightshades like tomatoes poisonous), microbiome info. Perked up but vegetarian failed: lived on cauliflower, tomato sauce, mozzarella, salads from farmers markets wasted food. Dr. Gundry takes 340 supplements/day, spent $900/month on supplements, felt like crap.
Daughter suggested carnivore, watched Joe Rogan, Dr. Barry, Dr. Baker, Carrie. Obsessed with YouTube videos, Laura Spa (lives 10 miles away), Lisa (coach, hourlong talk). Heard about Jeff's passing, encouraged everybody's path different.
Dove into carnivore fully, likes meat, satiated. Started for weight loss, no loss first 6-7 months but felt better, energy up. Blood markers monthly: cancer markers down. Foggy brain lifted, clear thinking. 7-8 months in, started losing weight on hormone blockers.
Asked doctor about break from meds. Doctor said let's take a break, do PET scan; if clean, no chemo. PET scan spotless. ChatGPT interpreted: no disease, no lesions, two small healed spots, no live cancer. Doctor: no chemo needed, hormone blockers optional now, can pause.
Doctor never asked about food. Dismissed alkaline diet: body regulates pH, only calories in/out matter. Said sugar doesn't feed cancer, eat whole birthday cake. Kelly respects oncologist for saving life but follows carnivore based on research (Dr. Seaff, Anthony Haydock, survivors).
On carnivore 15 months post-7 years chemo. Feels great, losing weight. Goal: be present with energy for grandkids, great-grandson (3), husband, family.
Confirmed: 162 tumors/lesions gone per scan. Two small spots (scar tissue). Right hip had rod from hip to knee (wheelchair 2 months), now walks without limp. Carnivore helped 100% with healing; meds kept cancer at bay but caused side effects, low energy.
Traveling: Florida last week, Hawaii soon. Husband was 330 lbs, down 130 lbs (not super strict carnivore, carnivore with keto cheats). Had stents, chest pain January: tests showed arteries of 20-30 year old, all blockage gone, no blockage despite high triglycerides. Still prescribed Repatha.
Diagnosed stage 4, no reason given: not Diet Coke, not water avoidance, just body/genetics. Mom passed at 39 (Kelly 14), white blood cells stopped, vague diagnosis. Doctor in tux said say goodbye. Read Adele (1940s nutritionist) criticizing AMA, pharmaceutical association.
Always advocated own health. Doctors taught <2 weeks nutrition. Vets ask pet food first.
Dr. Gundry on microbiome as second brain, cravings, cat litter miscarriage link, kale/spinach indigestible. Animals like elephants have different digestive systems.
Carrie on documentary including cancer via Jeff's story: metabolic therapy, carnivore, fasting as tools. Criminal no nutrition discussion post-diagnosis, only chemo. Brad Jones documentary Cancer Evolution, playlist of stage 4 thrivers using metabolic therapy. Doctors get 2 weeks nutrition training; need metabolic health professionals, naturopaths looking at root cause. Mainstream only tool: medication that makes a bunch of
Doctors mean well but are limited to their tools and get fined for discussing alternatives. Not all naturopaths are correct; in Arizona, many are vegan and react strongly against carnivore. Need more education on proper human diet. Naturopaths are not all created equal. Education system needs overhaul to prioritize health over prosperity. Incentives in healthcare are driven by money, not healing. Excited for documentary featuring individuals' stories and nine doctors paving new pathways by healing people, like Dr. Hampton getting seven people off medications last week, including insulin.
Kelly, as a Medicare broker, notes 80% of population 65+ are on the same medications, unlike neighboring countries. Overmedication contributes to cancer. Diagnosed at 47; daughter Summer, also 47, recently had cancer surgery, hoping they got it all. Told daughter she can't afford not to go carnivore, avoid stupid carbohydrates that taste good momentarily but kill. No longer about vanity; focus on health. Avoid franken food—anything not available 100-150 years ago, out of a box, processed, or sugar. If not 100% carnivore, eliminate processed foods first. Daughter convinced by Kelly's transformation: from exhausted and foggy to gym, personal training, active. Son-in-law said, "Your mom's going to outlive us all." Cancer caught very early; scanning every 3 months. Advice: take control, watch videos, listen to doctors and stories. Common thread: no processed foods, no sugars, no carbohydrates.
Mindset is 100% key. Survived seven years before carnivore. Strongest person others knew; didn't cry or start GoFundMe upon diagnosis. Strong walk with God; God in control, not doctors telling her to get affairs in order. Did best every day, beat it once without depression or pity party. Choice daily: positive or negative; hates negativity. Not every day peaches and cream; emotional wreck before diagnosis, crying everywhere, thought it was lupus. Post-diagnosis, gave best shot and stayed positive. Mindset everything; whiny, crybaby attitude first problem. Shared updates for prayers, strengthening her. Positive mindset kept trying things; didn't know carnivore would help cancer, just to lose weight from inflammation.
Tammy Peterson (Jordan Peterson's wife) had stage 4 terminal cancer, in remission six years via prayer, mindset, carnivore. Mindset powerful; stress releases cortisol, converts to glucose, ref eeds cancer (cancer loves glucose and glutamine).
Belongs to metastatic cancer groups; mentioning carnivore draws vicious vegan responses. Those failing treatments try alternatives; others pass ("got their wings"). Some play sympathy card; misery loves company. Still shares to help even one person; some say they'll check it out. Hardest group to reach. Similar with MS video; people don't listen despite healing. Dr. Baker's advice: if asked, talk; otherwise, be best example. Daughter Emma vegan 5-6 years, down to cauliflower nightly, miserable; lit up on carnivore, thriving.
Doesn't do well with chicken, eats rarely. Loves ribeye daily. Did first sardine fast (3 days) after year and half hesitation; not bad, inspired by Dr. Bos, but not often. Typical day: steak for breakfast, couple egg bites, hamburger patty if hungry later, occasional fish like salmon, chuck roast in crock pot with eggs, Laura Spath's meatballs. Mainly beef, few eggs, bacon occasionally (gains weight easily, every two weeks). Makes beef chips (carnivore crisps) in dehydrator, not jerky; son-in-law's coworkers bought them. Kelly Hogan tip: Costco pre-boiled eggs in bag for snacks (convenient, addicting though less nutritious). Dehydrated pork chips from shabu-shabu thin meat at Costco with popcorn salt.
Absolutely carnivore for life; eating birthday cake like signing suicide papers, invites cancer back. Cancer estrogen-driven and sugar-fed. Stupid not to continue. No longer craves; after first month, at Texas Roadhouse ignored rolls and appetizers, ate steak. Not tempted at restaurants, two Thanksgivings, Christmases; used to make fudge/desserts. Daughter makes pie but can't eat.
All cried happy tears: husband in shock (was planning funeral), daughter, son-in-law, boss, neighbor (also had cancer). Told treatment for life; past 3 months good, 5 years great, beyond a gift; keep affairs in order. Doctor now says no need. Surreal; new dawn after seven years chemo, infusions, fatigue, brain fog. Due to eating right.
When ill as kid, wanted comfort food like ice cream for tonsillitis. As adults, same with illness/cancer: eat whatever, "I'm dying anyway." That's killing most. Real food now comfort. Carnivore easiest; from standard diet seemed crazy, now satisfying ribeye. Husband loved pasta/French bread; eats less now, feels bad after.
Learned about oxalates, histamines. Blue cheese meatballs caused swelling; researched—mold in fermented/blue cheese triggers histamines/inflammation in sensitive people. Ate blue cheese salads lifelong, thought puffiness normal. Carnivore pinpoints sensitivities.
There's too many variables, too many different things you're eating. You'd never know what the culprit is or be able to identify it. That's why it's crazy for some people who are seriously sick, like with MS or cancer, to refuse carnivore. They say no to a strict 30-day elimination diet of the most natural, least inflammatory, most nutritious food that gives us everything we need in proper proportions. Yet they'll eat cake, ice cream, Dorito chips, Fritos with French onion dip and get praised for it while poisoning themselves.
Speaker's oncologist has MS and is from India. Telling someone from India to go carnivore—he's not buying it. He's a great guy but won't entertain the thought. Doctor, heal thyself. He won't attribute it to anything.
Black pepper—speaker didn't know they were sensitive to it. When you start healing the proper way, your body tells you immediately when you do something off. That's a no-go.
The exciting part is living life to the fullest with energy after carnivore, despite serious cancer. Speaker remembers being energetic, raising kids, hiking mountains. From about 2000 to 2024, things were crazy with no energy. Sitting in front of a computer was mentally exhausting; after work, they'd collapse on the sofa and DoorDash. Weekends meant one "do nothing" day of binge-watching Netflix.
Now energy is up 150%. Still gets tired but not superhuman. Host relates: typing on computer all day, then plopping on couch exhausted. Healing reveals this should be the default state on a proper human diet.
If they didn't eat it 100 years or 150 years ago, don't eat it today.
Watched old Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns like The Outlaw Josey Wales. He buys 30 pounds of jerky for his ride—that's what they ate. People-watch at malls today; it breaks your heart and convinces you not to follow that path.
At a family reunion, uncle went from mobile to immobile. Cousin lost his leg to type 2 diabetes amputation. What makes anyone think continuing that path won't lead to wheelchair, early death, or congestive heart failure? Humans normalize it day by day without thinking ahead. Devastating for the next generation.
Kelly Hogan took a before picture (standard diet) and after (no carbohydrate, high protein, high fat diet). Used ChatGPT to generate: what I'd look like at age 65 staying on standard diet—obese in wheelchair. Then, at 20 years on this path—healthy. Results were amazing; everyone should try it. Speaker plans to do it.
Where would they be in another 20 years? Those who make it are barely getting by with aches, pains, brain fog, bedridden. Family cares for them; money goes to medical supplies, meds, home healthcare—not vacations. We accept reaching 80s as success, but we should thrive into 100s.
God guides our steps, shows paths; up to us to take them. Every step from first book after mom's passing as a teenager, to daughter's suggestion, led here. He opens doors if you seek answers proactively and listen.
Host learned from documentary: bigger than them, a larger plan.
Speaker plans a channel for cancer, MS, or others helped by carnivore—encouragement, answers, group talks. Knows they're out there, like on Healing Humanity sites. Sits at computer too much now but wants to make room. Inspiring by sharing here is enough.
Thank yous exchanged.
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