Adjusting my load with Andy Galpin.
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What do you want to train? This is optimal training for muscle growth. Not for you. You can see if you had any actual quality muscle. This is like a dungeon. Can we revisit these where you put so many items of clothing on? They've got an undershort lining. Mine and Andy's relationship is predicated on taking the piss out of each other. Guys will understand. You look horrible. What should we do?
As close as you can. Put your head on my chest. We're going to be about 25 minutes here. His spine is the giveaway when you've been junked up and haven't done anything. One leg out extended. All this stuff play, you don't want perfect symmetry trying to move, put load, coordination, and then trying to move fast. Most people hop like this for 60 seconds a day. Achilles tendon ruptures cut in half.
Hey, have you got your shorts on inside out? Tops over because you're so small. Wear them properly. One. Two. Wow. No. We're not done. The other foot. Hip across. Hip hip or right. Punch. We're not maximizing muscle growth here. Not really maximizing strength at all, but you will feel that big time. Your legs are working. If you had actual quality muscle, you would see some contraction activation there.
Next time I'll take these off and you'll see. With those shorts on, it would be a public crime. You look like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. This is the type of stuff you're going to like on the road. As a recovery day. You're going to literally leave the gym feeling better. It has been quite a while since I did that. This load does nothing to recovery capacity. It's not taking anything out of your normal training. You're not going to sleep any worse. Not going to be any more fatigue tomorrow. Probably the opposite because you're going to feel more limber and loose.
Same again. 3 second isometric. Why the isometric, not eccentric? You're holding at the bottom. You're going to get more range of motion progression here. A big part of flexibility and range of motion is neural feedback where your body feels comfortable. You're desensitizing. You're going to wake up tomorrow with a better baseline range of motion because your body thinks it is safe for me to be in this position. You get a nice pump. People have more movement issues during movement than not. More technical breakdowns when you're moving than when staying still. Get in the bottom position, make sure you're dialed and then take that to fatigue. You don't have to worry about technical breakdowns and resetting.
Now that we're warmed up, get a little bit deeper position. That's significantly deeper. You're very limber. Much more limber than I thought. You don't have all that muscle on you. You've been in a perma cut. You appear to have lost all of the muscle that comes with being in a deficit but none of the fat. You've somehow found a new methodology to go hypocaloric for decades and all you do is lose muscle. You have managed to build impressively through a complex and sophisticated training methodology a really unimpressive physique. This is actually optimal training for muscle growth. Just not for you. You take an intellect like mine and put a physique like yours on top of it. Warp the reality around it.
Cross. Rotate. This is your third session today. Third workout? No. I'm just really weak. What happens at your live shows when people see you in person and realize your entire physique is an AI filter? The one thing I get is you're bigger in person than you look on camera. The camera takes off 20 pounds, but unfortunately 20 pounds of muscle. Which for you actually must make you look invisible when you turn sideways.
You're very limber. Mobile, uncomfortably. I might have to drop this down. That is some absurd range. Aren't you a full range of motion kind of guy? I am, but not with that level of loading. Sweat squat punch and ID. Knee to floor or wherever's comfy. Two second ISO. We're limiting load intentionally because we're putting a little bit off balance, deeper range of motion. We don't have a ton of load, so we're not going to really cause any damage. That is not easy.
It seems like there's been a big movement of the evidence-based lifting community going mainstream.
This was you could say this about the entire scientific community. I was the first scientist ever that tried to be in the public sphere. Not a single scientist ever in the world tried to do it before me. Pioneer. I am the original Andrew Huberman. You're kind of like the Michael Jackson of. Jordan, you meant. No. Michael Jackson.
The honest answer is this is what we begged for as an exercise science community, as people to listen to data and research. We wished scientists would be out there more. Then we got it and people complain. What do you think the complaints are due to? Elitism? It's that too, but it's also I've done it where I pioneered things and other people say it with no credit. It's jealousy. If you're really there for it, what you should care about is people get better information. So when people get out there, spread your information. Why are you bitching? But it's hard to be like man I did something original and didn't get the credit. He gets credit for it. It's like someone's cover of your song doing more plays than the first song. This position keeps happening because you just took that from somebody else too. Or somebody else got you 90% of the way and you just connected that dot. Are you crediting them every single time?
It used to be hard earlier in my career because I felt like I was doing things and not getting credit. But once you hit a critical mass of success, it's way easier to go then good. Great. We've seen this with Joe. Somebody very high at the top of their field is able to be very giving. Andrew Schulz said we have a very benevolent guy at the top of a tree. It didn't have to be that way. For all the problems people have with Rogan interviews, journalistic integrity, credentials, he is so not the worst that we could have got. Infinity circles of hell deeper. It could have been somebody who's petty, backbiting, gamesmanship. We're fortunate the guy that launched this industry is a genuinely good person. Not that way in most industries.
You and I are biased because he personally did uncountable amounts for our individual successes. Him having me on eight years ago. Neither one of us would be here without Joe. Judge people, sciences, fields by the totality. Hard to look at a guy like that and say he's an untrustworthy human being. People go in arcs. Maybe he's way off about something right now, way on something, off in the past. Look at the arc. He's obviously on aggregate trying to do good things. There will be bad decisions like all of us. When you put that kind of information out that frequently over 10 or 12 or 15 years, it's an arc. Hard time looking at his body work and going bad guy. Bad. Wrong. Sure. Said dumb. Episode 2,300 now. I was on 998. He's got a thousand more podcasts since then. Wild.
Can you get the baby weights out of the way? I'll lift them with my pinky. You know how you can tell someone's in the gym like never and they put weights right in the middle of where someone else and wear that outfit? Your wife's go to bed socks to train in.
We have demands and wishes of fields. How many times have you heard people say I wish we had teachers and doctors and scientists who are famous people. Now you got it and you're still not happy. It's the wrong scientists.
I thought this was a hang. When you invited me, you said we won't actually train. We'll just make it on camera like we are training. Is this the first time you've actually ever exercised in one of these exercise vlogs? Trained with Israel a couple of times. He trains hard. Trained with Mike. Mike trains hard. Maybe I'm just weak.
What are we doing now? Arms yet? If I'm doing arms in a lunge position, I'm going to kill you. I just want to do a bicep. TRX rows. Roll to a face pull and then back. This is to keep your poor shoulder mobility fixed up. Press your face. Split your face straight up and then collapse back down. Try to control it. Go a little more of an open angle on the press up. This is rhomboids, lower traps and almost no arms. You lied to me. As a person who's been training for 17 years, I believed you.
This is like a physiological scope. We did this series on the show for 20-30 episodes over many years called Life Hacks. It was a segment for every episode. No, an entire episode round table, me and two friends. We would come prepared with 5-10 things each: new amazing toasted sandwich maker, meditation app, song I've started listening to. Young guys nerding out about stuff.
Common question: what's the number one life hack from all the episodes? Sleep with your phone outside of your bedroom. Instant 10% increase in quality of life. Never a single person who's done it that didn't have remarkable results.
Why'd you stop doing it? I moved to America and the boys that I did it with, it felt sacred. Like the band breaks up and you're not performing that song anymore. We do it every year at Christmas. Catch up when I'm back in the UK. Doing it every year is interesting: last 12 months, what's the good stuff.
Picked up stuff I've kept: Opal screen time app from a Christmas episode two years ago. Still use it. Manta eye mask that I love. Very expensive. Triple click the lock button on your phone to turn it to red. Accessibility mode thing.
Do you think if you turned around right now and went back into promoting and DJs, knowing all the tools now, how much more sustainable would it be? It's still not going to be because the big mover is getting in at 3:00 in the morning. I'm 37 now. It was tough when I was 24.
Toward the end of my club promoting career, I'd leave the front door after setting everything up with a big team. Go back to my car across the street and watch School of Life videos on nature. Wasn't in it anymore. Loved it and proud of what I built, but time to let it go. Took conviction to say I'm going to talk to people on the internet for a job.
Before podcasting, were your interests as well versed as now or myopic? Very obsessive, singular-minded. Didn't know the curiosity was as broad. In second year of uni, couple weeks not going on nights out to read bodybuilding.com forums. Reading Jujimufu blog at 16. Blog post called Water the Preferred Drink of Hardcore People. Him weaning off soda as a late teenager. Interested but didn't understand you're interested in everything. Infinite amount of interesting stuff out there. Taste is something you can build, curate, refine. Become broader, more distilled, interesting when you interact with people.
I can have a rewarding conversation if they have passion in something I know nothing about. Can't hide it on my face. Wife constantly on me. If somebody has deep passion, doesn't matter. Warhammer 40k, tell me more about tulips.
Anybody that loves anything is pretty interesting because fascination with anybody gone deep. Is it the knowledge or subtly appreciating they tried really hard? Probably a signal of authenticity, conscientiousness, industriousness, commitment, motivation, consistency, specific knowledge.
Literally, this person knows so much deeply that weird niche ideas I have are available. Talking to Johnny before stage. Old housemate was Newcastle Falcons rugby team junior academy physio, then senior, second physio, first team. Half-hour loop walk from house. Ask how was the game last night. In-depth: winger injured ankle, working on this. Enthralled, didn't know half the words. Weekly physiotherapy audiobook.
Two ways to be a person people want to talk to: be interesting or interested. Most try to be interesting. Way easier to be interested. Excuses me from having to be interesting. Don't have to have anything going on. Selfish way: regale me, spin a yarn, tell a tale. Entertain.
Are we done? Can we go in the ice pool? That was Dr. Andy Galpin. Vitality Blueprint, general website andygalpin.com. When's your podcast coming back? Season 3 early 2026, probably January. Start recording. Seasons of 10-12. Don't know how y'all do all this content. Three a week for five and a half years. I don't listen to your podcast. Never have. On the episode you featured on, I was on your show. On that note of connection and deep intimacy. See you next time.
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