Champion of "Alone" on The Art of Survival — Jordan Jonas
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Jordan Jonas recounts rendering fat when he noticed wolverine tracks (about 40 lbs). Wolverines fight off wolf packs and take down full-grown moose. This was his first close encounter; the wolverine boldly ran in front of him, grabbed meat, and fled repeatedly.
Tim Ferriss welcomes Jordan Jonas in person due to prior audio glitches. Jordan has two dogs now (adopted a stray). They drink Lake Missoula Tea Company Lake Missoula Breakfast (caffeine drink, not whiskey) at high altitude in an unfamiliar city.
Jordan designed a custom axe based on Siberian native experience, especially with Aeni (native nomadic folks).
In the forest, an axe is the one tool needed more than a knife. Natives say it enables fire, traps, ice-breaking, and everything else. American axes from stores like Lowe's are inadequate.
- Siberian axe head shape with Aeni modifications.
- Single bevel grind (sharpened from one side; right- or left-handed). Acts as a planer for carving (sleighs, traps). Efficient for chopping narrow trees (arm-sized; slices through in couple swings). Prevents deflection on trees when matched to dominant hand.
- Wide eye (handle hole) vs. narrow American eyes. Allows field repairs with solid wood; handle inserted from top like tomahawk, tightens on swing (no wedges needed).
Tim confirms experience with deflection.
Similar to Japanese single bevel chef's knives (for horizontal fish cutting) vs. double bevel Western knives.
First day out: bluebird forecast turned into torrential downpour. Friend left rain gear behind. Group got soaked, hands non-functional from cold. Jordan used axe at premature camp.
- Find dead standing tree (dry inside; ground dead wood absorbs moisture).
- Chop down, split out smaller middle piece, split open to dry core.
- Split into quarters.
- On edge (lean against larger tree safely), use sharp axe with fine control to shave thin curls (feather sticks) down the wood grain. Leave attached in bundle (easier; resembles fiddlehead fern).
- Catches ferro rod sparks (paper-thin tinder needed; lighter/matches can fail in rain).
In downpour: made tripod with tarp overhead, sparked curls under cover. Added rough curls on top to build fire. Fire was lifegiving; warmed hands, lifted spirits. Mike noted, > "No wonder we worshiped fire for so long."
Tim has the axe; will post demo video on Tim Ferriss YouTube and Jordan's Hobo Jordo YouTube/Instagram showing non-obvious uses.
Axes have learning curve, especially sharp Siberian ones (sharper than Airbnb kitchen knives).
Jordan over his head in Russia (farm background but less axe use than locals). Natives build 30 km circumference log fences (no nails; interlocking logs). Technique: chop tree, step foot on cut end (angled, not flat), split with big swing near foot (deflection risk).
- First: smacked boot (swamp work, no replacements; patched, continued).
- Natives rode reindeer 5 miles to retrieve abandoned boot on stump (natural rubber, tight fit).
- Third time: frustrated one-handed swing deflected into knee. Mostly severed MCL, split bone. Crawled 2 km to teepee in shock/pain (good leg; prior surgery on other knee). Immobile days; used plastic bag for elimination.
- Immediate: packed wound with spruce sap (scraped from bleeding tree; no infection despite dirty axe/woods).
- Days later, native Andre carved cane.
- Returned to fence work.
Memorable lesson. Pretty miserable in that teepee.
Got close to locals.
Landed Moscow; no bus, blue farm tractor with wooden trailer. Took photo; officer called him "durak" (idiot), made him delete it.
Grew up North Idaho farm. Read WWII Russian memoirs, Gulag Archipelago. No prior Russia plans.
- Age 13: got job, worked hard.
- Age 18: brother invited freight train riding (Hobo Jordo origin).
- Christian household; valued it but teenage questions led to darkness.
Faith Struggles and Questions
Struggled connecting despite valuing Christianity's fruit. Verse: > "He who follows a path of righteousness and is in the darkness continue."
Key questions:
- Earth not 6,000 years old.
- Old Testament ethics vs. Christ's message.
Cultural baggage; didn't want to discard faith (separate baby from bathwater).
Jesus summary: > "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself." (Point of law/prophets; throws out bathwater).
Fruit seen:
- Mom: housed single moms, Christmas gifts to prisoners' children, acted in love.
- Personal: overlays life with love ideal vs. lust/anger.
Chose core: love God/neighbor. Prayed for matching faith despite doubt; acted anyway.
Catalyst to Russia
Heard of orphanage build. Flippant prayer for sign. Met Russian in New York offering lessons; emotional burden for Russia (act of God?). Bought year ticket despite job, crush, Marine officer dreams.
On train: prayed for faith matching sacrifice willingness. Connected to Justice Walker for orphanage. Goal: implement "love your neighbor" wherever.
It's easier to act your way into a new way of thinking than to think your way into a new way of acting. Act as if. Particularly with apathy or love, loving is an action. You can't be stagnant in that orientation.
Jordan went to Russia to help Justice Walker build an orphanage. He did preliminary groundwork like digging wells for a few months. He enjoyed Russia and wanted to live with Russians. Justice called a neighboring village; the man there, Yura (Euro), needed someone to watch his kids while his wife was in the hospital. Jordan had been there about 3 months and spoke very little Russian. Justice was well-read, making it easy to talk instead of studying language basics. Initial non-verbal communication hits a wall, so immersion was key. Jordan moved to the Siberian village, fully immersed.
Yura, a big Russian who had been to prison, showed Jordan around, introduced his 5-year-old boy and 2-year-old girl, had tea, then left for his lumber mill job. Jordan grocery shopped without knowing the language, in the deep end caring for kids for the first time.
Yura's neighbor, Eager (also ex-prison), had been in prison with a native fur trapper from the far north. They found God together. Eager urged Jordan to meet him. After a year, the trapper came to sell furs, invited Jordan north. Jordan returned to America to renew visa and earn money, then went further north in central Siberia, even more over his head.
Far north with nomads got to -58 to -60°F. Alcohol was prevalent everywhere north. In first village with Justice, bus swerved around a drunk man in the road; local said he's dead. Norms recalibrated northward. First week with Yura: picked up random drunk guy whose wife was chewing him out on phone—"the fury of a Russian woman."
Evenki sustenance hunters and trappers have encyclopedic knowledge and wherewithal, fluent in their environment, like Shangaan trackers or Kalahari Bushmen. Yet alcohol is an Achilles heel. In northern native villages, 30% of deaths from homicide, suicide, or alcohol-related accidents. Jordan loves these people; many friends struggle, but consequences are tangible. People binge drunk for weeks in villages, only broken by woods time. Sober in woods, they're knowledgeable, happy, fulfilled, open, quick to become family.
Cultural tumult from 1930s: Stalin forced collectivization. Spiritual leaders (shamans) and productive people (over 500 reindeer) sent to prison camps as kulaks. Gutted intellectual/spiritual core, built villages, turned nomadic reindeer herders into collective farm workers (herders, teepee makers). Kids to boarding schools, families separated. Reindeer flourished under ban on alcohol, big herds. Soviet collapse: outsiders bought reindeer cheap, butchered for meat. Herders scraped money for few reindeer, returned to woods. Family Jordan lived with: old blind man Van Victor got reindeer, took sons from school, raised in woods.
Villages without reindeer herding feel like black holes—drinking, no outlet. Reindeer villages have cultural momentum; even non-herders proud, send kids summers.
Reindeer similar to caribou (Old World vs. New World); slight genetic difference from separation, can breed but offspring have worst traits. Domesticated 10,000 years ago; now domestic strain—wild ones breeding in make herds wilder.
Reindeer central to culture like bison to Plains Indians, but domesticated and enable year-round taiga living: ride like horses, winter sleighs, meat, furs, everything. Create life rhythms; without, feels dead. Snowmobiles break down 40km from camp; reindeer sleigh reliable. With reindeer, you're home wherever—embody wilderness.
Jordan homeschooled; mom hands-on, focused on his history interest from age 12 (Euima WWII book, German/Russian memoirs). Read Gulag Archipelago at 17-18. Key impacts: happiness not ultimate goal—need purpose. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn criticized Stalin via letter from WWII front, arrested, sent to Gulag (Soviet prison camps, brutal on political prisoners). Encyclopedic memory of stories. Political prisoners bottom rung, ruled by criminals (rapists). West unaware.
Examples: Every inmate thought "survive at any cost," stomping others. Exception: corrupt Orthodox church babushkas kept souls intact, died as lights in darkness. Lose life but not soul. Purpose deeper than happiness (health, Gulag can take it).
Homeschooling allows divergent paths—excels unique interests (history), finish academics in few morning hours, pursue passions. Mom hands-on early, self-taught later via curriculum. Last two years (junior/senior) public high school for socialization.
Homeschool weakness: community/friends. Account by fostering: active in town, jiu-jitsu, gymnastics, hiking trips, multiple weekly kid meetups.
Socialization via shared activities, not artificial environments—especially boys. Kids outside doing things, not just talking. Deep connections from activities (e.g., cousins visiting, playing outside; middle child cried when left). Guys around fire connect without eye contact, fire as ancillary third party.
Live in conducive place, send kids outside, avoid phones—low-hanging fruit, causes distraction/disorientation. Design environment deliberately; in city apartment, banning phones needs strong alternative amid distractions (dog training analogy: tip with 20s in crowded bar).
What alternative are you offering to screens? You've deliberately placed yourself in an environment with many outdoor options. This is more challenging in a small city apartment, requiring trips to the park or creative pursuits like painting or playing an instrument. Jordan prioritized outdoors, moved to enable it, and structured life around it, including getting llamas to carry gear for one- to two-week family trips, as he couldn't carry enough for shorter ones. This has been intentional and effective, though adaptable to urban contexts.
Llamas surprise people—not horses or Andean animals? After Russia, Jordan wanted to pack with reindeer in America but faced laws in Idaho prohibiting ownership north of a certain border. He contacted legislators, met government officials, and helped overturn the law. However, reindeer required high fences, ruining free-range packing plans. Horses have a steep learning curve and are dangerous with injury stories common. Llamas weigh about 350 lbs, much smaller than horses, rarely kick, and are safe if temperament is good. They're chill in woods, don't tear up ground, sit quietly, and kids can ride them. Adults can't ride, but llamas pack gear allowing Jordan to walk unburdened. Low maintenance and low risk make them ideal post-reindeer failure—closest alternative.
Llamas offer surefootedness: soft pads with two front raptor-like claws grip wet rocks and dig into mud or soft dirt for climbing. Horses slip on rocks due to metal shoes. Llamas are between horses and goats in off-roading; goats hop boulders but require a caravan for capacity and can't be tied—always follow, causing chaos.
Gulag Archipelago is similar to Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl—a thicker version, like Gulag Archipelago light.
Assyrians: indigenous Aramaic-speaking people of the Middle East before Arab takeovers, from northwestern Iran near Lake Urmia. During WWI chaos as Ottoman Empire crumbled, minorities sought independence. Turks pursued 'Turkey for Turks' nationalism, expelling or killing Christians (Greeks, Assyrians, Armenians) amid collective punishment. Russian collapse left a vacuum; Turks invaded, committing genocide: 750,000 Assyrians and over 1 million Armenians killed.
Jordan's grandparents were sole survivors. Grandpa (17): village burned, father in wheelchair gave him money belt, told him to run; saw house burn with dad inside, sister taken by Jesuit priests. Grandma: dad shot, then 'deportations'—marched into desert with mom and 7 siblings until only mom, grandma (Shalom), and sister Shushan survived. Baby died, mom collapsed; they carried her, escaped guards, rescued by British outpost, sent to Baghdad refugee camp. Parents traumatized.
Grandparents met in Baghdad, married, immigrated to France pre-WWII, endured Nazi occupation as poor immigrants, then reached America, died soon after. Dad was 10, raised by sisters. Despite losses, they had 11 kids, raised joyful family—no hate, only love. Family reunions full of joy. Grandpa prayed in closet. They built beauty from horror, not passing trauma down.
Jordan reflects on this legacy: not defined by hardship, but rising above to create. Choice in relating to suffering—many rightfully traumatized, but some recover and build despite horrors (family killed, raped). Impressive resilience.
Dad, son of immigrants, raised by sister, craved family/stability, worked as engineer, joyful providing hugs. Suffered childhood diabetes and polio, poor management led to foot sores, job loss, mom returned to school (non-academic, hard). 12-year decline: lost foot, then crushed other in log splitter, fully amputated. Watched family suffer, cried 'I failed.'
Family never lost sight of his core: encourager, joyful. He refound purpose pouring into family, facing health loss/death joyfully. At worst (dialysis, pain), spiritual gifts peaked: cried at night, joyful mornings reading Psalms. Stopped dialysis: 'Too much pain/degradation.' Partied last week eating junk (diabetic freedom), full of joy/laughs till end (spiked temperature, ~1 week).
Template for facing inevitable suffering with light. Grateful for current purpose (sharing outdoors), knows it evolves with age—priorities must align for smooth shifts.
From producer to supporter/teacher implicitly: leaned into joy/encouragement despite no mobility/hands. Gifts not production-dependent.
Struggled with faith: 'Lord won't give more than you can bear' (corrected to 'won't tempt beyond ability'). Modern choice to end treatment absent historically. Freed family in final act, no recovery possible.
Promises/perils of extending life amid suffering raise ethical questions absent 200-300 years ago.
On non-hunting mountain trip, wake when wanted—flexible vs. quarry-timed hunting or settlement/government work. Vs. veni managing property.
First glimpse: train hopping. Brother did it years (hitchhiking alternative), loved freedom; invited 18-year-old Jordan—fork from jobs to bum life. Wake with minimal tasks: food/water. Later with natives: no schedule, tasks tied directly to existence (catch fish if hungry, herd reindeer)—immediate, not deferred like 401k. Dopamine/serotonin align properly, matching evolved human living mold.
I've described
Successful hunts or good fishing create maximum human joy. No need to earn money; it's more accessible. Humans share instincts with animals like a German shepherd herding goats instinctively.
Life feels more realistic. You're more like in the world.
Fewer layers of abstraction: direct cause and effect like needing to eat, stay warm, or sleep. Tangible gratification from individual actions.
Living with natives (not native language, not family), wondered if everyone would choose this life in a pleasant climate (-20°C not -50°C) with modern medicine and food security.
Fur trapping buddy took younger village guys (drinking) to sable territory for summer living off the land: horse, cutting hay, fishing, hunting.
Dogs barked; buddy saw brown bear (bigger than black bear, grizzly-like) 150 yards away that killed a moose. Cut up moose, stored in permafrost pit fridge.
Bear returned vengefully. Dog hid under bed; other barked. Bear ripped through tall brush.
Grabbed SKS assault rifle, ran toward barking dogs. Younger guy Yora behind. Bear snorted behind them, charged through alders.
Gave gun to Jüka, took 3-megapixel camera. Bear snorted behind again; Jüka ran with gun (knees shaking). Jordan couldn't run due to knee issues, stood with camera.
Bear stood up; Jüka emptied magazine (boom boom boom). Killed it.
One shot one kill... Vietnam.
Natives' bear ritual: Evenki call bear "grandpa" (Amaka). Removed eyeballs, placed under rock so spirit wouldn't see killers. Threw intestines in river for neighboring village to bear wrath.
Two mid-60s women floated 12 hours in aluminum boat (brought only axe) to visit tribe.
Moose swam across lake; lassoed neck/antlers with boat rope, tried axing neck. Moose dragged boat hundreds of yards into woods, snapped rope between trees.
Women stranded days by river until help dragged boat back.
Return: 30 km reindeer ride. Saddle loose; both Jordan and lady fell off repeatedly, especially crossing rivers/puddles.
Grandma sees moose swimming, decides to catch it in the neck.
Jordan watched seasons 6 and 7 during hyperbaric oxygen treatments (recommend hard shell medical grade, 2-2.5 atmospheres; soft shell waste).
Season 6 (Jordan's): 10 people alone in woods, self-film, pick 10 basic tools (axe, ferro rod, sleeping bag). Dropped in different wilderness areas. Last longest wins (hypothetically year+).
Location: Northwest Territories, Canada, south of Arctic Circle (similar to Siberia parallel).
Great show: learn approaches that work (multiple viable). Avoid building Lincoln log cabin (though stone house worked in season 7).
Paracord (single cord with fishing line, filament, tinder, snare Kevlar): not allowed (basic only). Jordan had thick version off-show.
Survival cord: tinder (wax-coated, spark-catching), Kevlar snare cable, fishing line, regular string. Paracord: outer sheath, inner strands for rope, gill net.
Gill net: passive fish trap sized to gills; fish can't back out.
Snare: loop sized to animal (hare = fist-sized), on trail. Effective (often illegal).
Squirrels run up/across poles. Clear branches on two trees, run pole between, set snares along. Squirrels zip across.
During early medical check (weight, SD cards, batteries, health), crew scared squirrel into snare (kicking as they passed). British crew guy excited: "Whoa, hell yeah."
Jordan lasted 77 days. Not hard: snared 20+ rabbits, moose day 20, excellent fishing after. Prior Russia experience (years, months) made it sustainable; strong family.
Stress from unknown duration (no 100-day cap like season 7). Got moose early, stressed others might too, projecting 6-8 months, losing fat. Lesson: stay present, don't stress future.
Gunning for 140 days; shocked when ended at 77.
Jordan's 10 tools: axe, saw, Leatherman (multi-tool: knife, pliers), frying pan, ferro rod, sleeping bag, bow and arrow, fishing kit, trapping wire (thin stainless steel), paracord (for mega gill net).
Competitor skipped ferro rod, used bow drill (friction fire; hard with alpine wood, found cedar board). Risky.
Common mistakes:
- No axe: can't cut ice, very handy.
- No fire starter: stress of maintaining fire, harder hydration (boil water), calorie burn, night vigils. Bow drill not worth tradeoff.
Brought bow: enjoyed hiking/shooting squirrels/grouse. Take bow on any outing.
Carrying a bow keeps you engaged while traveling to fishing spots or gathering firewood, constantly scanning for rabbits. Without it, there would be downtime wondering what to do. Allowed nine arrows. Committee debated and settled on nine, a substantial number with no issues running out.
Arrow Tips
Brought five blunt tips (like judo points, but not specifically) for small game to knock out without passing through. Four broadheads (two-blade VPA solid steel) for larger game, tough and sharpenable on the fly.
Animals take the path of least resistance, used in snaring and trapping. Set up shelter for proper wind, called moose, used trip wire with tin can alarm. Missed a 40-yard shot on a moose with recurve bow. Watched it run away, immediately planned next move: noticed hills 500 yards apart with low point moose would use.
Recalled building fences in Russia and natives funneling animals pre-guns. Built fence by chopping saplings to create obstacles moose avoids stepping over, funneling to intended path. Set tin can alarm and shooting bush with cover. Built one rung of fence (first row of thick logs stacked to hold), took couple days—high calorie expenditure but necessary to avoid starvation.
Successful Kill
Heard can clank while pulling rabbit from snare, snuck to bush. Moose strolled along fence to opening at 24 yards. Arrowed it morning after evening calling. On initial miss, felt good shot but only one arrow; waited over an hour before tracking to avoid pushing wounded animal.
Great blood trail dried up in old burn area with hard ground, no tracks. Predicted path of least resistance for wounded moose, found it 500 yards away, alive at 50 yards. Watched 2 hours as it stood and laid down repeatedly—emotional rollercoaster. Finally stood and tipped over. Joy irreplaceable, slayed 3-week starvation demon.
400-500 lbs meat, plus bone marrow, brain, organs. Liver size of body, no preservation, ate it first and got sick. Bloody organs like liver spoil fast due to saturation; bleed animals well for preservation. Fish bloodline and gills must be removed.
Don't eat a polar bear liver in one sitting. Vitamin A fatal.
Stored 90,000 calories of fat in gallon jug on shelf with barrel cover (hoping bear bait). Wolverine stole it, noticed tracks. Wolverines ferocious (weasel family, 40 lbs, fight wolf packs, take down 1,000 lb moose by clinging to neck). Bold, grabbed meat chunks right in front.
Set long trip wire with can. One night heard clank, shot arrow through bush—ricocheted, pinned him with arrow caught in ground/alders. Lunged, grabbed axe, eviscerated, swung again. Primal moment, solved weeks-long problem. Turned claws into earrings for wife.
Rules allowed killing one wolverine (tags). Day of relief before another appeared. Shifted from offensive (planning, executing) to defensive. Coincided with lake ice forming—couldn't fish normally, not thick enough for ice fishing. Had ample moose protein, no need for rabbits (used rabbit feet as luxurious toilet paper).
Felt downhill trajectory: collected all possible, now defend against wolverine, wait for ice. Harder mindset. Animals optimized to steal food; wolverine stripped bark off platform pillars.
Built elevated platform (Aenti technique, four rows thick logs like fence, box-in-box everything-proof). Participant in later season nearly killed copying it. Calculated calories, didn't finish fully; wolverine still accessed.
Fat bottleneck of survival. Protein attainable (small animals, mushrooms), but fat scarce. Lived solely off land first time, tested rabbit-only diet—learned body needs fat immediately, burns reserves otherwise. Rabbit starvation reference.
Animals target fat: wolverines, crows, jays go for fattiest fish parts, skin, belly, eyes, brain—leave meat. Salmon: strip skin, eat fatty areas, brain if plentiful.
Jonas Axe: multi-purpose tool with learning curve, finely tuned. Two versions: smaller for backpacking, larger for farm/car camping. jordanjonas.com/ax.
Wilderness courses: learn survival skills, tanaka rod, axe use. jordanjonas.com for sign-ups, hunts (book quick, this season full). Instagram, YouTube @JordanJonas. Shares lessons, meaningful purpose.
Partnered with HarperCollins, tentative pub early 2027. Reflects on Alone feeling normal (like Russia trips) vs. others breaking dramatically. Introspective: life patterns built reservoir of resilience.
Shares life story, fun anecdotes, keys to living well by building resilience proactively—before crises. Come through trials positively, put light in world like grandparents/dad. Helps fill resilience reservoir to confront challenges.
Encourages people to watch seasons six and seven of Alone. There's a Reddit thread titled "Can we agree that Jordan from season 6 is the best contestant to ever play the game?" with extensive discussion, though some disagreement as expected on Reddit.
Earlier chat about hardship; found a folded copy of the serenity prayer in a chair while with podcaster Sean Ryan in Tennessee. Long been a fan due to echoes of stoicism. Realized common version is only a small piece.
Jordan reads the full prayer:
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time, enjoying one moment at a time, accepting hardships as the pathway to peace, taking as he did, this sinful world as it is, not as I would have it, trusting that he will make all things right if I surrender to his will, so that I may be reasonably happy in this life and supremely happy with him in the next."
Key Concepts in the Prayer
Most familiar with the start. Additional parts: living one day at a time, enjoying one moment at a time—a lesson from Alone where worrying about the future proved unnecessary. Accepting hardship as the pathway to peace. Profound wisdom echoing Buddhist maxims and stoicism, neatly wrapped.
People can find Jordan at jordanjonas.com, Instagram, and YouTube (@hobo).
Noticed increasing political division. Many loved ones have divergent political opinions, but filtering through politics turns people into avatars of ideology rather than fellow humans.
Example with Immigration
Immigration is a hot topic. Society should track immigration; people taking advantage violate the social contract. Personally, based on faith, help those in need when able—e.g., took in a Russian couple fleeing to avoid the front in Ukraine. Does not expect government to force others via taxation to live out his morality. Does not judge those who don't, recognizing the sacrifice involved.
Avoids using politics to vicariously fulfill moral obligations without personal sacrifice. If government enforces it, costs nothing personally and can lead to judging those bearing the actual burden.
Broader Application
Approach morality personally and actively; reality tempers extremes. Cuts every direction:
- Right with strong abortion views: foster children, adopt, support single moms.
- Left with open border views: take in an immigrant family, support with own means and connections.
Get to know the complexity; understand why others don't agree due to sacrifice. Become less judgmental and self-righteous.
Spiritual Wrestling in Christianity
Favorite part of spiritual path: no rigid law, filter real world through "love your neighbor as yourself" and "love the Lord your God." Wrestles with ideals like loving your enemy or giving to everyone who asks—unrealistic, but brings it to life. Retained this for meaning and value rather than discarding it.
Working it out in life is super valuable.
Wrestling with God fosters introspection leading to decisions aligned with truest values. Dangerous to know for sure; embrace the struggle.
Admire the seeker of the truth. Beware the person who has found the truth.
Solid values and principles are good, but wrestle: under what circumstances would this not be right? Cross-examine. Highest path is to work it out. Not easy; easier to follow a formula.
Admires Jordan's thoughtful approach. Reintroduces core evolved sensitivities that make humans human. Abstractions and social media tribal identities fall away in simplified environments.
People don't need to live in Montana; ways to seek it out.
Appreciates time on the show; enjoyed getting to know each other in the woods. Excited to pack own axe next time, avoid sticking it in foot. To be continued.
Links in show notes at tim.blog/podcast; search Jordan or Jonas.
Until next time, as always, just be a bit kinder than is necessary. To others, yes, but also to yourself. To quote Jack Kornfield, "If your compassion does not include yourself, then your compassion is incomplete."
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