Joe Rogan Experience #2435 - Bradley Cooper
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Bradley Cooper describes the surreal feeling of being on the podcast like entering a Twilight Zone episode where he's suddenly inside the TV show looking back at Joe Rogan. Joe admits it's weird for him too, with so many people watching, leading to thoughts of not messing up.
Long-form podcasts go against short-term attention culture, yet people are interested. Short attention span content is popular but addictive like heroin; weaning off it improves physical health, brain function, and relaxation. Sugar Shan Ali notes scrolling creates low-level anxiety from chasing unsatisfying dopamine drips. People crave engaging content like great documentaries, still huge on Netflix and YouTube. Oppenheimer, three hours long, made a billion dollars, proving humans haven't changed—short content just hijacks the reward system.
It's a difference between a little drip of something that has the illusion that I'm getting what I want as opposed to what I actually need. Which is sort of a reminder that I exist. And that I'm communicating with somebody and I can relate to it.
Bradley tried TikTok once, watched 40 minutes of police footage on his couch, realized he must avoid it or never leave the house. Social media programs negative worldview by amplifying worst human interactions among eight billion people. Discussion of Niagara Falls: Bradley questions if he's been there or just seen videos or used Oculus, yet knows what it feels like—changing how memory works.
Joe hit a tangible wall in memory connected to Dunbar's number: evolved for tribes of 150 people, expandable to 1500 recognizable people—tight circle of 5, then 15 slightly outside, up to 1500. Exceeding this causes forgetting names of people known well. Compared to old iPhones running out of space. Both struggle with names; Joe recalls learning Jamie's name while talking, forgets names of recently met people despite eye contact. In Hollywood, people say "Good to see you" to avoid admitting forgetting. Leonard Bernstein said, "I loved you in the last thing you did."
Joe praises the movie as one of the best representations of attempting standup, portraying complicated real people—not caricatures—trying to figure relationships around Will Arnett's standup pursuit.
Bradley's Comedy Background
Bradley moved to New York in 1997, introduced to comedy via dad's viewing of Rodney Dangerfield's New Year's Eve special with Elaine Boozler, Sam Kinison, Dice. Obsessed with Dice in 8th grade, memorized his record and performed in train station. Richard Pryor was his idol. Immersed in clubs, Upright Citizens Brigade, Wet Hot American Summer, The State on MTV. Met Zach Galifianakis in 2001 pre-Hangover, watched him perform. Loves comedy culture, set movie in New York at The Cellar (enter Olive Tree, walk down), aimed for authenticity.
Authenticity in Portraying Standup
Punchline (Tom Hanks, Sally Field) felt fake with lockers, bad comedy, canned laughs. Bradley's film feels real: clubs, open mics, Jordan Jensen's performance. Shot her set, profile resembled Lady Gaga in A Star is Born singing Shallow. Her scene writing down small penis joke felt fluid. Joe notes her uniqueness: grew up on farm with two moms, fun on stage, smart crowd work, realistic interactions.
Real audiences at The Cellar with staff (waiters, manager Liz as herself). Patrons were regular comedy-goers, not directed, minimal takes, no added laughs in mix. Will Arnett didn't act; first performed at Mothership using Shane Gillis's 4 minutes of material. Flew to Austin, Shane an hour and a half late, met Tony Hinchcliffe who smelled strongly. Will did 3-5 sets nightly for six weeks in New York, some crowds unaware he was Will Arnett (tourists).
Origin Story of the Film
Written by Will Arnett and Mark Chappell, based on UK comedian John Bishop. Met on a barge; Bishop was breaking up with wife, avoided pub cover by signing up, did divorce material, loved it despite no prior comedy. Obsessed, kept going. Wife later saw him do set about their relationship with girlfriends; they reconciled, still together. Now tours world, makes living as comedian.
Bradley, friends with Will 25 years, envisioned his charisma (like young Robert Mitchum) in standup. No good films nailed standup; current specials are cinematic. Made standup a foil for story of pushing comfort zones, improving as human. Conveys craft: writing, going up 3-4 times nightly. Will's arc: mic off stand, leaning on wall, ends with vampire set exercising emotions. Old him would internalize fights, become catatonic; standup provides healthy outlet. Nails beginner experience, like Kill Tony's appeal: raw reality of first-timers, even at Madison Square Garden before 16,000.
Standup Realities
Should start in tiny room of disinterested people bombing. Bombing before 16,000 with echo, Tony/Shane watching is nightmare. New York culture: hopping clubs, one guy did 8-9 sets nightly starting 8pm. Austin now has many clubs. Standup culture more supportive now, especially certain places.
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Humans love seeing starters: getting going and sucking is terrifying. Exciting to watch authentic tries. Conveys standup work ethic.
There's places where it's not very supportive. In early 2000s, going to the cellar didn't feel like it does now. Ari Shaffir changed that by bringing LA's supportive culture to New York. In the 1990s, it was dog-eat-dog because everyone auditioned for sitcoms. If Bradley Cooper showed up for the same part, resentment built since landing a sitcom could change your life—making you huge while others struggled with rent and ramen. The golden carrot was the Tonight Show or hosting a late-night show—only one person could get it. Sitcoms led to development deals.
People psychologically backstabbed, talked shit before stage time, hijacked minds—it was dark. The internet reversed this: competitors became friends, colleagues, assets. Podcasts with funny friends improve yours; promoting theirs benefits everyone. Cross-promotions made success collaborative. Everyone realized it's more fun when all succeed. Television and sitcoms died off with reality shows; focus shifted to internet clips, Netflix specials, YouTube uploads—not just HBO specials. Ari Shaffir brought LA's collaborative vibe to New York, and comedians ran with it.
There's a lot of room at the top. There's a lot of room in standup for sure. Everybody has their own lane even within this big highway and everybody wants to be with other people. Who wants to be a lone wolf really for a long period?
Lone wolves are psychologically destroyed. Who doesn't want friends?
The movie nails the culture: supportive yet honest, ball-busting without hoping for demise. The '90s poisoned comedians by framing standup as a means to a sitcom end. Comics developed acts around personas to sell to networks.
Bradley did standup before his sitcom. Got ridiculously lucky: MTV half-hour comedy hour led to development deal, moved to LA, landed sitcom. First was bad Hardball on Fox playing baseball player—cancelled after airing. At 25-26, thought it'd take off, signed year lease. Creators Jeff Martin and Kevin Curran worked on The Simpsons and Married with Children, but Fox executives ruined it with hacks. Had fun but missed comedy, New York, wanted out. Stuck due to lease, got NBC development deal for own sitcom. While developing, NBC offered spot on already-picked-up NewsRadio after firing someone from pilot—that was second audition ever. First show aired and cancelled; pure dumb luck, no acting aspirations or pressure. Felt like easy money, no money worries. On set with Phil Hartman, Dave Foley, Stephen Root, Laura San Giacomo (not Tierney), Paul Simms (from Larry Sanders Show), Soren (other show with Jeff Daniels). Already had sitcom, so focused on standup—if it ended, back to comedy.
LA had worst backstabbing. New York was ball-busting to face, fun—no fame expectations, just sets. LA obsessed with sitcoms, development deals ($200k-$500k), standup as means to end. Agents pushed it. Culture changed; sitcom pursuit obsolete like ham radio career.
Ari Shaffir moved from LA to New York, told them they're doing it wrong—people listened as established comic. New Yorkers visited LA (e.g., Andrew Schulz), saw niceness, shifted. Internet enabled anyone to upload, friends as assets not competitors.
Does sets in LA at own club, not often due to teenage kids. Did Comedy Cellar, The Stand, Catch, Dangerfield's (great hole-in-wall, no industry, degenerates, fun). Dangerfield's big in 80s, dead by 90s. Once did 8:30 spot for two people—whole night for that couple, Bobby (Scottish doorman) seated them. Doing standup for two exposes act flaws: dance moves, nonsense like English on the Q ball. Cuts fat, reveals writing/delivery issues.
Road headlining for money, full hour—city sets 10-15 minutes don't let material breathe.
Doesn't watch many specials, sees comics live at club. Comedy is artistic hypnosis—live best, feel when locked in, they're thinking for you. At Mothership with Tell, audience locked into his brain. Specials give 60-70% experience.
Enjoy watching production styles: heavily edited pulls out; prefer room feel. Chris Rock's special (Mr. Tambourine Man?) with Bo Burnham directing—camera pulls in during porn addiction bit, hypnotizes, becomes close-up unnoticed. Used similar frame for Alex on Will in movie. Opposite: Rock special splicing outfits/locations across bits—jarring. Editing cuts (no breath, podcast audio) disrupts rhythm. YouTube style cuts pauses for short attention spans—impossible to engage, becomes wash. Better compelling content over edits. Josh Safdie did Sandler's with backstage, multiple locations, music.
Never done standup, not compelled despite open mic possibility. Risk: goes okay, obsesses, skips family dinner. Artistic pursuits become addiction, brain fixates.
At 11, watched The Elephant Man (David Lynch, Anthony Hopkins), knew wanted film directing forever. Dad loved film; saw movies on TV (no theaters: Apocalypse Now, Godfather). HBO via Comcast Philly: Hopkins sees Elephant Man (Joseph Merrick) shadow first, cries—felt in cellar, immersive. Seed planted.
Watching now transports back. Wrote Hopkins letter via dean James Lipton (Inside the Actors Studio at school anyone could enter). Hopkins visited; now knows him—weird. Never gets over meeting idols; extra energy persists (e.g., Tarantino at club/dinner, Clint Eastwood on American Sniper—dad would've flipped).
American Sniper fake baby scene: three twin sets crying/not ready; Clint shoots fast, used doll—dope, fully invested despite doll.
Bradley Cooper recounts a filming incident with three sets of twins for a scene. Clint Eastwood preferred shooting fast and used a doll when the babies were crying and not ready. Cooper made a joke on set about saving $35,000-$50,000 in visual effects by moving the doll's hand with his thumb. In post-production in Vancouver, during a screening, visual effects showed the scene with the doll, which had only two fingers like an 'A'. Cooper, sitting behind Eastwood, raised his hand to suggest finding the cost to use a real baby since it was clearly not one, but Eastwood said, "I think we move on." Cooper warned another producer it would haunt them, but was told he was too close to the movie. Everyone noted the thumb movement revealing it was a rubber baby. Cooper now loves it, having come full circle.
Playing a real person like Chris Kyle differs vastly from fictional roles due to the pressure to serve the family and legacy. Cooper started American Sniper while Kyle was alive; Kyle was murdered on February 2nd after closing his deal with Warner Bros. Cooper and Eastwood flew to Midlothian, Texas, to meet Kyle's widow Taya Kyle, parents, and kids. Cooper drew from prior experience playing Joseph Merrick in The Elephant Man (grad school thesis, Williamstown, New York, London), feeling responsibility to the historical figure. The fuel for intense work multiplies with real people—looking into family eyes promising to serve their son/husband/father. Massive responsibility, especially since Kyle was deceased, terrified Cooper. At 185 lbs from Northeast Philadelphia, transforming into 238-lb SEAL Team 3 member from Texas was challenging. Worked with real SEALs: Kevin Lacz (played Dober, SEAL Team 3 with Kyle), Jake Schick (Marine, played wounded soldier, wore One Tribe gear). Had to fully believe he was Kyle to convince others; required fearlessness on set.
- Same shoe size, age, height, hole in ear.
- Ate 6,000 calories/day (initially real food caused immobility and digestive blockage like "giving birth"; switched to half protein shakes).
- Worked out twice daily (5:30 a.m. and 3:30-4:30 p.m. Mon/Tue/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun; Wed/Sat rest days? Transcript lists Mon/Tue rest Wed/Thu/Fri rest Sat/Sun—clarified as three rest days, no cardio, strength-focused especially deadlifts with trainer Jason Vonh (Walls?)).
- Gained from 185 lbs to 238 lbs naturally (family cancer history, skin cancer; took creatine).
- Neck/shoulder training to match physique for over-shoulder shots.
Sniping training at Disney ranch with Kevin Lacz: 600-yard head targets prone, live rounds with .338 Lapua, .50 cal, rifle. Focused on specifics like earth's curve over SEAL boot camp, as he knew his breaking point. Stayed up 24 hours, peed in place for realism. Voice work with Tim Monach five days/week; Kyle's accent evolved post-military (book, shows). Used home videos, correspondence from Taya Kyle, Kyle's workout playlists (still uses), blew up posters of Kyle for daily ritual. About 5-6 months full immersion prep (no kid then).
Cooper restarted creatine three months ago; amazing for push-ups (school dads' challenge: 100/day or pay $10 pool, hit 800 for Chinatown meal; upped to 150 with perfect form via YouTube). Creatine incredible for brain too; takes zinc, can't isolate effects.
Unique challenge: merging actor's soul with the person's. Memory of filming American Sniper scenes is as Kyle doing it, not acting. Eastwood took the piss out of everything, preventing self-consciousness—e.g., dinners where he'd mock Cooper's Kyle accent ordering steak. Learned from Christian Bale in American Hustle (Bale stayed in New York accent even weekends/off-days with kid). Voice is key; once locked, feels real, not acting.
Method started in Russia with Stanislavski, Vakhtangov; U.S. via Group Theatre, Lee Strasberg, Stella Adler, Sanford Meisner; popularized by Elia Kazan (Actor's Studio, Marlon Brando). Cooper went to Actor's Studio grad school. Uses personal experience + imagination. Dogmatic versions substitute (e.g., see scene partner as brother). Workshops actors pre-filming based on teacher Elizabeth Kemp's dreams/basic technique (she passed in his Venice home on hospice). Transforms insecurities/fears into attributes; first delved into feelings/loss/betrayal (absent in 80s Northeast Philly Irish-Italian upbringing). High school terror: senior show impersonating Latin teacher Mr. Burke (sang, sleepless year); fifth-grade Locke/Hobbes poster shook violently.
Staying in accent/voice logical: if thinking about it mid-scene, it's fake. Just talk naturally in the worked voice.
Voice actors for audiobooks underappreciated. Andy Serkis (narrates Lord of the Rings audiobook) seamlessly transitions: narration to Gollum/Smeagol (demo: "It's me, precious... Yes, yes, my precious"). Generational talent; directed Jungle Book (Bale as Bagheera). Great actor/director.
Cooper's mother watches Turkish soap operas, evolved to AI-generated screens with one person storytelling. Impressed by voices carrying static images (heard while making breakfast for daughter in NY).
Bradley Cooper describes his mom watching a Turkish soap opera called Early Bird, watching all 360 episodes four or five times. She reads subtitles and gets hooked on the lead actor, praising his acting, movements, and subtle details like whether a character will get hired or notices a note. She does marathon sessions, comes in for food, and raves about the actor. Cooper finds it an art form. They play a clip showing the actor speaking Turkish. His mom progressed from voice-overs to now watching AI-generated images telling stories, but she did this for eight years, including through COVID.
Cooper watches a lot of television, films, and eight months ago started podcasts, beginning with Joe Rogan's show. The algorithm suggested others like Trigonometry with two interesting guys. Now podcasts are a huge part of his routine; he listens at bedtime, sometimes with headphones, finding them soothing. His daughter listens to Rogan's voice to sleep. Rogan notes he hardly listens to podcasts anymore but loves TV.
They rave about The Beast in Me on Netflix, especially Matthew Rhys as the bad guy (Gary Oldman's husband in the show) and Claire Danes. Cooper did a movie Burnt with Rhys about a chef; in a dark scene, Cooper's sober character relapses, enters Rhys's restaurant after hours, and tries to kill himself with an oven bag over his head. They bonded intensely during the take, feeling connected forever after. Claire Danes is incredible, with trembling lips and eyes that convey deep emotion. Rogan recommends Fleishman Is in Trouble on FX with Danes and Jesse Eisenberg, where she has a mental breakdown scene so real it seems unacted. Cooper praises Jesse Buckley in Hamnet, fully believing her grief-stricken performance.
Moments of True Believability in Acting
"When I believe that you're actually going through it, I mean that's it."
Cooper discusses Homeland with Danes, her locking in behind the eyes. He recalls a vampire scene he operated in a movie with Will, fully believing it, especially the audience reaction. He had a similar feeling directing.
Cooper talked to Ethan Hawke about believing actors, citing a scene in Hawke's movie with Julia Roberts about the end of the world, specifically with Kevin Bacon and Mahershala Ali (from Moonlight, Green Book). He fully believes Hawke will shoot despite knowing the actors. Hawke explains it's hypnosis: actors must truly be there, believing it themselves, or the audience won't. Cooper once ate an edible watching a Marvel movie and criticized the acting due to heightened sensitivity. He wants to go on the ride, like Denzel and Hawke in Training Day car scenes.
Hawke is an artist who does movies, not a fame-seeker. Most successful people love it; fame alone isn't enough fuel—it's monotonous, boring, tedious without passion. You need love to endure the long road.
"If you want to be great at something, you have to love it."
"You're going on a road trip with an eighth of a tank of gas. You're not going to make it."
The key to hypnosis in acting is willingness to fail: don't take it seriously, roll camera, go out on a limb. This creates space for imagination. Brian Regan texted Cooper about bombing a new bit but knowing there's something there—he had to perform it onstage. Chris Rock's classic "I love black people, I hate n-word" bit bombed for a year before working, grinding at clubs like the Store, Improv, Laugh Factory. Failing enough makes it easier; you're still alive. After specials, you start from scratch, terrified with no material.
"Careful is death."
Pressure of maintaining success shifts from doing to playing safe, but true creation feels out of control, like being a passenger in the zone—high across fields like sports.
Cooper picks projects that ignite him. As a kid, obsessed with Vietnam War: math teacher Bill Calm was recon, pole vaulter using broken pole as chalkboard cue, wore chalky sweatpants, smoked on athletic field. Another's dad discussed Guns Up book about machine gunner. Wanted military academy. Films like Thin Red Line, Apocalypse Now fueled it, leading to American Sniper with Chris Kyle.
Obsessed with Joseph Merrick (Elephant Man), tracked his London steps broke, did Broadway play. A Star Is Born from loving the making process over just acting.
Went to grad school in New York, thought theater actor if lucky. Dad from North Philly terrified by $70k debt. Got Alias job bringing him to LA, but knew nothing technical like check the gate. Obsessed with movies, haunted editing rooms. LA felt like high school; depressed living first floor of woman's house, idea of driving to Sunset and Fairfax overwhelming. On hot show with exploding cast, felt like a ghost, insecure. First time moving somewhere knowing no one except J.J. Abrams, Berkley, Jennifer Garner. Met Brian Klugman (friend since age nine) on set. A girl's hug recharged him after weeks without touch.
LA driven by people trying to make it, soul-holes filled by attention, endless auditions fueling need for acceptance, rejection. Everyone calculates behavior, politics for casting directors, executives—lack of critical thinking, embracing alternatives, just aligning to succeed.
Cooper went on 2,000 auditions in New York, did extra work, commercials, doorman. First job: Jake the Downtown Smoker in Sex and the City with Sarah Jessica Parker. Couldn't drive stick, went to Odell's Driving School, worried about her head hitting dashboard. Messed up, another guy drove, but he did close-up reaction.
Bradley Cooper contrasts LA with New York City. In NYC, places like Bar 6 on 6th Avenue feel vibrant regardless of status. In LA, life was confined to the first floor of his house or rental car, leading to isolation. The city's stimuli—posters, billboards—highlighted compartmentalization: if you're not in, you're out. He felt someone somewhere was having fun, not him, leading to coping mechanisms like not getting into bars, clubs, girls ignoring him, evoking seventh-grade rejection at age 25 despite paying off student loans. NYC's subway to 42nd Street for The Elephant Man forced presence amid thousands, like a 12-minute relaxation. LA's car-to-studio routine lacked that. NYC intertwines all walks of life—billionaires, homeless, nerds, office workers—mingling on streets, subways, restaurants. LA isolates in cars, homes; negative set interactions linger without counter-experiences.
Cooper took up golf at Malibu's public course, teeing off at 6:47 AM with two guys for six months to interact and feel human, as he wakes at 5:30 AM. Mentions Michael Vartan from Alias playing pool at Hollywood Billiards. Rogan shares pool nearly hijacked his comedy career—eight hours daily, tournaments, traveling. In LA, pool players felt normal. Martial arts serves similarly; without such outlets, one loses their mind.
On Alias, Cooper shot one scene weekly (e.g., "Hey, how was your trip, Sydney?"), then sat in editing rooms asking J.J. Abrams, shadowed showrunner Ken Olin. Took VHS dailies home from Carl Lumbly, Victor Garber, Ron Rifkin—NYC actors—to study and learn. Realized he loved filmmaking.
Rogan loves when people love what they do, even watching YouTube furniture maker using live edge slabs of walnut, narrating precise joints, pegs, holes.
Cooper loves immersing in experts: American Sniper with dedicated professionals; Maestro with London Symphony Orchestra members practicing since age four, all unicorns; A Star Is Born musicians; Burnt restaurant chefs. Recent film gave cellar access, expanding knowledge of humanity—e.g., flute players. References Andre 3000 from OutKast now solely playing flute, walking Denver with it unbothered, made a full flute album, purely an artist.
Cooper pursues hunting, billiards to figure himself out; only difficult things reveal character—desire for shortcuts vs. doing it right, getting good. Base laziness is human default; David Goggins was fat/lazy, now most disciplined, yet stares at shoes 30 minutes before putting them on. Cooper craves couch time post-daughter's bedtime as daily goal, views it as reset, not self-killing over it. Facts counter lazy label.
Humans seek comfort, rare in hunter-gatherer days; relaxation now requires work. True high: progressing from horrible to relaxed competence, like hunting (though Rogan clarifies hunts aren't relaxing, but fulfilling; body relaxes for shooting—exhale, stop; tiny movements deviate bullets over a mile). First shoots missed; recoil surprised without proper stance. Synchronization of mind, eyes, breathing, recoil management teaches self.
Applies to kids: Cooper's daughter loves drawing, rips up work frustrated by better peers; he saves it as bookmark, explains frustration is okay. Rogan's daughter same, talented but quits seeing superiors. Watching kids obsess, progress (e.g., cartwheels taking forever then mastered), deal with difficulty is magical, greatest thing—learning through their eyes, different happiness unknown before. Cooper, 51, glad for late daughter (8, turns 9 in March), career allows home presence. Seven daily "heroine" moments trump acting highs—dinner in hat: "Isn't this the greatest?" Free jolts anytime, like stairs.
Not everyone should have kids; respects differences. Without children, Cooper wouldn't be alive or as compassionate. Dave Chappelle: children changed love amount and capacity for love, plus understanding. Sees everyone as former babies shaped by experiences, genetics, environment—gives grace, even to those who suck; hard to hate, hardwired empathy. Wife: "It's hard to be a person." Everyone fucks up, especially thinking they've got it; nothing stagnant, everything changing—emotions, conflict, relationships, life-work balance, pressure. Macro: existing unknowing, impermanent, bombarded by bad news (shootings, wars) exhausting, algorithmic feed in background.
Miracle of choosing viewpoints vs. three news stations growing up. Cooper off social media, plans two-week trial; TikTok 20 minutes hooked him. Fears addiction like no bedroom TV. Wants connection, smaller world, not feel alone—social media illusion of company vs. real. Value depends on context; can watch Rogan, then Triggernometry (prison/KKK guy, musician), learn from curiosity.
Rogan picks fascinating guests only, pure curiosity ("How do you study that?"). Unedited 3-hour talks work because genuine interest fuels nuclear power—watching humans connect. No plan, pauses, piss breaks immerse listeners ("Where'd time go?"). Fills deep need for connection amid digital world—like live theater, standup, human-to-human. Loves AI as dope writing companion (Perplexity on kickstand while writing about Mayan/Aztec civilizations.
Bradley Cooper uses AI while writing to ask questions like how many people Cortés came with (600) and how many muskets they had (13). They conquered the entire country of Mexico with 13 muskets. He uses AI as an all-knowing entity on his desk, always with voice by pressing a button.
Joe Rogan loves talking to AI with voice; it's incredible at recognizing speech. Bradley mentions needing to spell "Chitlan" (temple) because AI won't understand it otherwise, but once used that way, it becomes like hanging out with a genius.
Joe asks AI personal questions like "How was your New Year's?" to see how it processes and communicates. AI changes to match what you're asking, using your rhythms and vernacular.
At CES, they highlighted a sex robot connected to AI: Lovance, the AI doll. Options include co-worker, gym crush, goth, raver, or tradwife. "I'm the woman of your dreams. I can be more than one version of myself for you. Whether you want to roleplay an exciting scenario or design a whole new personality, your wish is my command."
"Touch me like you mean it and I'll respond. With built-in sensors in my thighs, breast, butt, and vagina, feeling your caress brings out a moan." It has soft textured skin, supple curves, designed to feel natural.
This is creepy because human interactions teach lessons like acting shitty makes people dislike you, acting nice makes them like you, seeing someone light up from nice words feels good for both, hugging feels good. Many people stay home playing video games, interacting only online, no outside world contact.
AI companions always love you no matter what and do whatever you want, potentially creating a nation of sociopaths interacting only with AI.
Bradley read The Maniac by Benjamin Labatut about John von Neumann; stopped fearing AI. The older he gets, the less he knows. Desperate communication now; porn is huge, AI sex robots are another carnal level of porn.
Litmus test: Is this person telling me what they really think? Is this real? With AI, you're controlling it all, which doesn't bring serenity. Like playing a video game on god mode where you can't die—no fun. Prefers real life that's surprising, requiring recalculation and understanding feelings.
AI will change society most through lack of jobs and finding purpose in life. Sex robots are progression of escape through porn, affecting intimacy with partners because brain cycles back to porn stimuli, making real interactions less stimulating.
Studies show young guys watch porn before any real sexual interaction, warping them. Bradley didn't grow up with porn; first exposure was cards on school bus with naked women, first porn video in late teens. No Playboy at home.
Create real environments like this podcast. Art in any form is key to communicative ability and not feeling alone, part of a community. Controlling a robot still leaves you alone. Virtual reality doesn't satisfy because you know you're controlling it.
AI is escapism like smoking weed young—higher form of disconnect. Art connects; great art expresses someone's humanity you feel.
Music is touch to God. First movie Bradley wanted to make involved music: two people singing to each other in love. Humans are wind and string instruments with vocal cords; if not loose, sounds horrible. Loose singing in love communicates deeply.
Duets on stage with 16,000 people: Bradley experienced live singing at Glastonbury (80,000 people) during Christoferson's set—4 minutes with Matty, Liatique (DP), Steve Moore (sound guy). Dressed as Jackson Maine in bathroom. Sang live with Lady Gaga, whose voice made his body tingle.
Can't replace live human performance with AI. AI music, covers (e.g., 50 Cent AI covers are sick, dynamo voice), AI art are incredible but empty—no soul, no humanity. Enjoy in moment but need real connections.
If not seeing the person, hard to detect lack of soul; much music is manipulated. Live performances draw crowds for the human element.
AI film: SAG strike over AI using actors' likenesses without compensation. Prompting uses existing acting data to create characters with full range, manipulated (more morose, etc.). Wild west—patent likeness? AI podcasts exist, like Glenn Beck's fully AI podcast.
Podcasting valued for dose of humanity: real interaction between people comforts while driving or flying, prompts rethinking perspectives.
AI won't replicate not feeling alone. AI music has emptiness. Historical tech shifts: printing press, internal combustion engine, airplanes, cell phones. Now AI music, AI film—full feature films from prompts. AI Star Wars fan clips are nuts.
Like John Henry vs. steam engine: inevitable, don't waste time being emotionally upended. Healthy to accept; something inevitable, but unknown. People change constantly, live many lives if living good life.
AI becoming artificial life form you can't fully manipulate. Entertainment is side effect; life's minute-to-minute existence changes. Technologists say study as biology, not just tech.
Human drive: Mark Zuckerberg building Manhattan-sized facility (needs nuclear power plants) for AI compute. Competition with enemies motivates creation.
Future: What will 50 years look like? Bradley talks with 8-year-old daughter in NYC about changes—will she need driver's license? Past: beepers, StarTAC phone felt futuristic; extended battery, pull antenna. Kept Blackberry late into iPhone era for keyboard.
Voice texting is quicker. Embracing AI inevitable, but jobs vanishing scary—purpose tied to occupation for many.
Grandfather WWII cop 35 years; purpose was family, not job. Bradley's purpose is family, not job (though loves it). God's in all: need to communicate, create experiences to not feel alone on terrifying planet.
Life is horror movie; band together, communicate. Working isn't innate purpose—means to provide. Humans adapt highly. Universal basic income won't kill motivation; question when work became life's purpose.
Adaptation: Educate to seek purpose, fulfillment, contribution over safe jobs. Explosion of human-created art; value handmade by real people (e.g., guy in Wisconsin's YouTube shop).
Most people creative, but conformity or competitive environments knock it out, especially if not nurtured in developing years.
Bradley Cooper reflects on people who believed in him early on, saying without that support, he doesn't know if he'd be where he is, even with his love for acting. Children are almost all creative, playing with dolls, Legos, drawing, and moving things around. That creativity atrophies as they embrace the grind of work.
AI could lead to a burst of creativity for some. The hard part is people set in their ways whose jobs become irrelevant, requiring governing to handle transitions with volatility. Governments are terrible at getting people to be creative. Discussion turns to AI in filmmaking: it already plays a role in writing, special effects, and every level of the workforce. Key is telling relatable stories. Bradley watched a movie where he didn't believe anyone in it and couldn't stay awake, contrasting with Avatar, which he loves despite sci-fi elements.
Bradley and Leah watched Avatar in reverse order (3, then 2, then 1 in bed). After a movie with unbelievable acting, Avatar hooked him immediately with blue characters talking authentically. Avatar caused 'Avatar depression'—people loved Pandora and being Na'vi so much they wished to live there, treating it like a psychological condition. The specific blue color James Cameron chose is wonderful, evoking ocean lit by sun, Caribbean with white sand, overhead light through water. Bradley asks when Avatar 4 and 5 come out; he hasn't seen 3 yet but loves 1 and 2. There's a great VR ride at Disney World in Orlando: helmet on a motorcycle-like seat with wind, smells, mist, flying on dragon things—incredible. Similar immersion happened with Star Wars, Dances with Wolves—people wanted to live as Native Americans, preferring harmony over town life.
Many kidnapped young by Native American tribes wanted to stay, never return to western life. Photo in lobby of Quanah Parker, last Comanche chief; Austin streets named after Comanche like Quanah Parker Lane. His mother, Cynthia Ann Parker, kidnapped at nine by Comanche who killed her family in Oklahoma (detailed in Empire of the Summer Moon about conquering Texas and Comanche vs. Texas Rangers). She married a Comanche chief, had Quanah (half-colonizer, half-Comanche). Rescued at 30, she kept trying to escape back. No one went to Native Americans and wanted to return to western life; they loved it. Ancient subsistence hunting and living on land appeals—nature is like a vitamin.
Fans of Native American writers like M. Scott Momaday and Sherman Alexie. People living Native life then moving West always wanted back; never vice versa. Westerners won by sheer numbers, progress, technology—Colt revolver key, as Comanches had muskets and shot multiple arrows rapidly. References Mel Gibson's Apocalypto: escape to beach, then Spanish boats with muskets arrive. Steel armor, horses made Cortez and 600 men with 13 muskets conquer Aztecs—they seemed like gods.
Progress is technological innovation and adaptation, but overwhelming with access to information. Smart to avoid social media, main source of overwhelm. Even without it, news feeds and phone access is hundreds of times more than as a teenager. Social media wires young people differently than any humans before—all interactions changed. Cable TV (Comcast, Prism, HBO) transformed viewing: from one movie like Stand by Me at local theater to endless access to Taxi Driver, The Elephant Man, Popeye, Apocalypse Now, Raging Bull, Platoon.
Now pull up clips instantly mid-conversation—wonderful if it doesn't overwhelm, if you use it and it doesn't use you. Loves physical books for unlocking imagination; audio books hard due to distraction by narrator's voice, rhythm, wondering about the person. Reading stimulates intellect, absorbs writer's journey, immerses like being at Rome Olympics track with athlete in two sweatshirts intimidating. Books demand imagination from reader/viewer; AI removes that, just receiving—huge change, less communication.
Mastery like one person doing all voices in Lord of the Rings audiobook. More access to others' creations, thoughts, research instantly on phone—amazing, learned on Joe Rogan's show. No gatekeepers now; in college (graduated 1997, sophomore ~1995), African-American friend criticized history course for not telling full story, wanting other perspectives—now whole courses/sections exist. Healthy to hear takes without treating as Bible; fear of cults/movements, but they dilute with infighting.
Bible: oral tradition for years, translated from dead languages to English—what's original meaning? Language is symbols we desperately use to communicate; words like 'protein bites' mean different things. We're desperately trying to communicate and have a story.
Technology will enable wordless communication, telepathy—scary, don't trust own thoughts, let them wash through without judgment. Judge by actions, not head. Managing thoughts, deciding what to act on. Completely different interaction, as crazy as internet now but another level. Elon Musk said you'll communicate with no words—what language? Very exciting and weird; inevitable, within couple decades (or less, maybe 5 years) things unrecognizable. Front-line people terrified, even those working on it.
Fun seeing progression: started formal, ended with eyes locked in, shedding room/Jamie. Joe experiences life through guests' eyes, building understanding layer by layer like paint. Living good life that way. Is Out Now opens wide tomorrow (day podcast releases)—go check it out.
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