Joe Rogan Experience #2451 - Cheryl Hines
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Joe Rogan welcomes Cheryl Hines. They note it's been a few years. Joe mentions thinking of her when Bobby Kennedy announced his presidential run. Joe praises Curb Your Enthusiasm as one of the greatest comedy shows. He says she's not built for politics, and nobody is except Trump, who survives attacks unchanged. Most people feel terrified and anxious when rejected by their tribe, leading to groupthink and agreeing to insane things. Ideologies can become cults. Both right and left have cult-like sections with extreme 10% on each side keeping everyone fired up. Most people are in the center.
Intelligent people get captured by extremes. Bill Maher, lifelong left-winger and reasonable critic of both sides, had a spat with Jimmy Kimmel over politics. Kimmel stopped talking to him after Maher dined with Trump, which is taboo. Cheryl spoke to Maher about this; people went insane over it. Even when Bobby ran as a Democrat, Democrats were angry. Politics makes people mean, vicious, uncharitable—worst for power. They lie, take things out of context, even within their party. Hollywood is competitive but not about tearing others down. Attacks on Bobby intensified when he ran for president, creating a feeling of doom. Bobby is tough, having been targeted for 20 years, developing thick skin.
During Kamala Harris-Biden debate, Harris accused Biden of sexual assault-like behavior, then dismissed it as debate tactics. Politicians viciously attack then act friendly afterward. Contrast with Mitt Romney-Barack Obama debates: civilized, polite, Romney super religious Mormon who never swears, Obama matching energy. They discussed policies, not personal attacks. Trump debates devolved into insults like calling Romney a convicted felon. Biden-Trump debates tried matching Trump's energy unsuccessfully. Debates should focus on running the country, policies, spending—not insults. Catchphrases like Trump's "Crooked Hillary," "Sleepy Joe" work by throwing opponents off. Social media allows responses now, unlike before when ruling party controlled narratives.
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