Joe Rogan Experience #2496 - Julia Mossbridge
In a Nutshell
Julia Mossbridge, a cognitive neuroscientist, shares rigorous evidence for precognition, presentiment, telepathy (especially in non-speaking autistics), and retrocausality via experiments like skin conductance spikes before future events, photon interference from the future, and brain lesion studies suppressing psychic inhibition. She critiques academia's suppression of these natural human abilities, links them to quantum non-locality, filter theory of consciousness, and an "informational substrate" (Akashic-like field) accessible through love and flow states. Personal anecdotes reveal government gifted programs potentially exploiting psychic kids unethically, while her Time Machine app applies "love through time" for healing trauma.
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Joe Rogan introduces Julia Mossbridge. She is trained as a scientist in cognitive neuroscience and computer science, did AI work, studied how time works in the human brain, and became interested in precognition—predicting future events in non-normal ways. Found via Popular Mechanics article. Interested in exceptional human performance, believes these capacities are natural, dampened, can be developed; some have them naturally, including herself to some degree. People worldwide have different gifts.
Fascinating when a scientist gathers data on intuition, pre-knowledge, thinking of someone and they call. Julia studies it rigorously with controls to confirm information from the future or telepathy. Frustrating: science world ignores or suppresses it; some of her peer-reviewed papers not listed in Google Scholar despite others from same journals being listed. Not just academic; wants to build things. PhD at Northwestern, master's at UCSF, postdoc at Northwestern. Knows what she's seeing, replicated by others. Wants to create useful things with these capacities if people feel allowed, not verboten, shameful, or foolish.
Julia observes Joe as tough but sensitive, incredible listener building a map of the world through guests' eyes. Asks if culture shifting toward better use of natural capacities or away in fear. Joe: Conversations like these, available online, provide deeper understanding than mainstream media, bypassing prejudices in higher learning, ego walls. Internet enables pondering ideas freely, unlike career-dependent academia. Courageous scientists like Julia can reach millions via podcast, normalizing ideas, reducing fear of foolishness. Joe doesn't mind being fool (fascinated by UFOs, aliens, Bigfoot); as comedian, future doesn't rely on being taken seriously. Changes discussions on reality: quantum computing, alien life, politics, human misrepresentation.
Julia fell in love with science for discovery, not knowing, being foolish. High school biology teacher exercise: write Einstein question and 2-year-old question about environment on note cards; Einstein like 2-year-old—full of wonder, confusion, uncertainty, asking questions, imagining. In grad school/academia: pressure to write grants after 3/4 work done, pretend not discovered yet; follow thinking lines for funding/career. Advised to remove psychic work from resume for academia fit; refused, left for building things. Academia slow: learn something, 10 years to question truth, 20 to build. Balance needed: can't just claim psychic without rigor. Coming from eccentric family helps not fear foolishness.
Intelligent, kind people discuss obscure topics without stigma. Bigfoot reflex laugh from academia conditioning; has friends studying Bigfoot, cryptids scholarly. UFOs accepted mainstream before psychics, despite psychics studied by intelligence since 1950s. Cultural instinct to be right. PBS left-leaning; pisses off: left wants to be smart, right wants to be right—both block discovery, problem-solving. Grew up left-leaning; most in middle (Joe middle-left, labeled far-right; now independent). Ideologies polarized; joining team requires believing/performing all things or canceled—both sides, cult-like excommunication, doctrine adherence. Academia similar, disturbing—supposed open-minded for truth, but gatekeeps.
Irritating PhD gatekeeping. Don't revere for degree; judge work, thoughts, reasonableness, moving toward good. Both sides: experts full of it vs. needing good neurosurgeon. Human ego: wanting total deference, "settled science." Better: spent inordinate time, this is what we know, why we think so—with humility. Male ego enforces narrative, dismissive, insulting deviants. Consciousness/mind complex, biologically variable; podcast shows unique people, minds.
Joe soaks perspectives like sponge, building informed world model—powerful potential (jokingly urges presidency, declined). Insecurity (more in men due alpha standards) leads to poor listening, one-upping, proving dominance/intelligence—not fun. Loves talking to smarter people (e.g., Elon). Solution: work through insecurity, not squash (comes back as garbage). Martial artists least insecure: jiu-jitsu white to black belt requires thousands humiliations, objectively assess position, time invested—addresses posturing, pretending expertise.
People say "just shut up and listen," but that's not a real conversation—it erases the other person's existence and asserts intellectual dominance in the dumbest way. Culturally, this is seen as the smartest approach, but it's fools with a lot of information.
In a better world, asserting dominance through martial arts is preferable—it's mostly mental, like getting a PhD where you're beaten down, realize you're not the smartest, and learn humility among super smart people. School teaches that intellect isn't everything.
At UCSF, Julia saw a talk by a famous Nobel Prize-winning scientist who was rude and arrogant to questioners. A mentor advised separating personality from information, but Julia refused: "he's giving me all the information in his personality." She chose not to tolerate rudeness over amazing intellect. Culturally, meanness is accepted if you're "winning," but love—acknowledging another's existence—is more important, even if you think they're an asshole.
"What's more important is love, which is this connection where you actually acknowledge there's someone else there."
Sometimes you learn from gross people by ignoring personality, but boundaries matter, especially as a young woman in a male-dominated field. Postmenopause brings confidence to listen past it.
Intellect must balance with personality—the messenger matters. If someone yells profound info like a death metal song (e.g., Slayer), it's unlistenable despite value. Arrogance ruins the message; humans need connection as equals to communicate effectively. Academia treats it like a chess game with stunted pieces—it's a cult where leaving brings pity, but freedom excites.
Social hierarchies stem from ego in territorial apes with weapons, establishing dominance via intellect, wealth, or status. People name-drop, buy fancy cars/watches pretending it brings happiness, but it doesn't—it's fleeting, even for sociopaths. Many numb with pills, lost in pharmaceutical fog.
The human problem: no one knows harmony with self or others. Failed paths include drugs, big cars, dominance, phone addiction. Prayer works as earnest love. Humans try for harmony despite faults, and we can do better. Conversations help figure it out.
The human mind is extraordinary yet lacks a guidebook. Neuroscience knows more about the brain (e.g., neural code, learning, memory gaps persist), but mind—thinking, feeling, emoting—is mysterious. No instructions for the complex human instrument lead to cults or following gurus promising "10 things" for okayness.
Seeing a baby born (Julia as doula, her own) or someone die is psychedelic, liminal—border between life/death. Rare experiences now, but they instruct on the mind, resetting to what matters beyond dominance/insecurity.
Joe shows an Aztec death whistle (idol on desk). Aztecs blew it at night from mountaintops to haunt enemies (high-pitched, demon-like, like screaming/crying baby), during charges, sacrifices. Air splits into chambers for horrifying sound.
Birth/death provide resets; modern life distances us.
Activities taking you out of thoughts help—yoga excels: physically demanding, requires willpower/concentration/balance/sweat/strain, purges weirdness, allows pure existence. Childbirth/dying are physical but involuntary; childbirth is boot camp, pushing limits to self-transcendent love.
Team sports, musical practice, martial arts, archery, pool, workouts—anything hard induces flow (Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's timelessness, surfing the moment). Applying whole self makes you selfless. Neuroscience backs flow states enhancing self-understanding/consciousness.
Martial arts as vehicle for human potential applies to guitar, tennis, remote viewing (mental martial art).
"You're not the same person you were when you were 20 because you're better at being a person... constantly practicing and learning."
Julia hid interest in premonition/psychic ability. First clear precognitive dream at 7: friend Shane loses new watch on playground—happened next day (specific: who, what, where). Told eccentric family (mom therapist/learning specialist, dad physicist, sister artist)—discussed dreams at breakfast. Dad: coincidence; mom: get dream journal (Julia did, lifelong).
Very specific (3+ factors likely precognitive). Family had ball lightning/orbs in Libertyville, IL farmhouse (lived with grandparents)—mom affirmed, dad denied despite evidence (burn mark). Dad: theoretical physicist, UChicago dissertation on moon's electron layer/atmosphere. Physicists simplify to equations (joke: cow as sphere), seek control; dad had severe OCD.
Julia kept journaling, noticed precognitive dreaming pattern, school experiences reinforced. Hid it for academia (neuroscience PhD), split off as "crap." In late 20s at Northwestern (second grad school), studying auditory timing, questioned time interest—linked to dreams. Journals confirmed; chose path.
Fearlessly cold-called Dean Radin (Institute of Noetic Sciences) after reading his work: "Hi, my name's Julia. I was thinking of going into this field."
Julia Mossbridge was advised to get her PhD in a different field before investigating precognition. She finished her PhD while studying mainstream topics, then found a sympathetic adviser at Northwestern in the cognitive neuroscience program during her postdoc. She had one foot in mainstream research on timing, auditory, and visual systems, and the other in psychic research. She received funding from the Bial Foundation in Portugal for her postdoc to study the sense of being stared at using closed-circuit TV monitors, measuring skin conductance changes just before responses in random psychic tasks—precognition or presentiment.
She became interested in presentiment after seeing it was real, noting a big gender difference. In a guessing game with randomly selected trials, before men got their first trial correct, their skin conductance spiked like winning the lottery; before incorrect trials, it petered out. Men anticipated future wins physiologically at a high level. Women showed the opposite pattern practically but not totally, with much lower skin conductance regardless of correct or incorrect outcomes. Men were excited about future correct outcomes physiologically.
She collaborated on a meta-analysis of 26 studies over 40 years examining physiological changes predicting random future events.
Do you have a theory as to why men have that response and women don't?
Julia thinks it's cultural, linking to the importance of winning. Gambling addicts are twice or three times as likely to be men. The importance of being alpha or winning is a big deal to men.
Joe suggests it goes back to tribal war, like chimpanzees. Importance of winning is survival or death; getting kicked out of the chimpanzee colony. Ability to predict events would keep you alive, like sensing an ambush.
In other tasks (scary vs. neutral pictures), both genders show the effect, but in this winning task, it was clear. She replicated it with heart rhythms: men excited, women less so. If something doesn't matter in the future, it doesn't matter in anticipating it.
Joe asks if precognition is an emerging phenomenon or something atrophied before language. Julia agrees it's available before language. Joe notes phones, internet, and computers provide information but shorten attention spans via social media. Studies show people, especially children, are less capable of problem-solving because they rely on computers. Language is a technology that might have replaced intuitive psychic connections. Before language, bipedal hominids may have had psychic understanding via intuition and feeling. What was consciousness like without words for dog or tree? Joe thinks in an internal voice; Julia has pictures and feelings, aiding remote viewing.
Joe describes his inner voice as a general-like figure: "Shut the fuck up. Go to work. Go do this. What are you talking about? Why you being such a bitch?" It's always right, like a guardian angel steering him. It berates him for mistakes, ensuring he feels pain to avoid repeating them. Julia suggests forgiving yourself is more sustainable than berating, but Joe insists feeling pain deeply prevents repeats. His voice gives honest assessments: what he did wrong, what he should have done—loud conscience he sometimes ignores to sleep.
Julia shares a mystic's poem: at day's end, bring to mind people you were kind to, then fall asleep. Being kind and generous is selfish because you feel better about yourself and life.
Being kind and being generous is kind of selfish because you feel better.
Joe agrees; understanding benefits encourages it, benefiting everyone.
Language makes you more aware of thoughts linguistically but dampens instant knowledge of others' feelings (telepathy). Psychic abilities haven't been lost; language suppresses them. Morris Freedman (neurologist, Baycrest, Canada) found stroke patients with lesions in the left frontal orbital area were more psychic. Experiment: patients moved an arrow on a screen using intention (no mouse), powered by a random number generator. Those with left lesions succeeded statistically; right lesions did not.
Control: compare intention trials to reading a book (no intention). Statistical tests showed arrow spent more time in intended direction during trials. Effect size around 5-10% more often (exact number forgotten, varies by person). Replicated with transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) on healthy people, suppressing left orbital frontal area enabled mind-moving the cursor.
Explanation: left orbital frontal inhibits right frontal (psychic-dominant); suppressing left releases psychic ability. It's right under the surface.
In non-speaking autistic kids, less activation in left speech areas frees psychic abilities (hypothesis).
Psychedelics like psilocybin dampen brain activity despite profound experiences. Filter theory of consciousness: consciousness like a radio signal, brain filters it for daily life (pick up cup, speak). Otherwise overwhelmed by data: future events, others' experiences, multisensory/subatomic info.
Non-speaking autistic kids get distracted by spirits, telepathic knowledge of private events, making here-and-now hard.
Julia's team (met via prior colleagues and Kai Dickens, creator of Telepathy Tapes) tests non-speakers/spellers (prefer over non-verbal; they may speak but not communicatively, use letterboards/keyboards). Set up rigorous trials with videos, music, words, sung videos (chosen by students). Sender 30 yards away behind closed door; communication partner blind to targets.
Example: On Zoom prep (Julia in Virginia, student/Maria Welch in Illinois, Jeff Tarrant in Oregon), Jeff sent video, cameras/mics off. Student spelled "I'm ready." Maria asked multiple-choice question (sent via chat), but Julia mistakenly sent to Jeff. Student described: "it's a beautiful sky." Target: artist-colored time-lapse of tree tops under northern lights. Statistically improbable.
In Chicago, participant 4 wanted double date with participant 5 and his girlfriend, told his mom to relay. Participant 5 later said same to his mom. Non-speakers, parents unaware/unacquainted.
They telepathically shared slamming a beach ball on ground before trials to focus signals and access right timeline/video. Video shows debrief with Jeff, Julia, Maria.
Discussion on presenting video so timing doesn't factor (e.g., not seen earlier). Make it stand out.
They discuss making a video stand out for identification in telepathy trials. Natalia is on the left. Participant types into a keyboard with an electronic voice that's hard to hear, so she repeats it. The voice says "Slam," then "Slam a ball." This is participant four's idea to slam a ball on the ground to align to the correct timeline after failing a telepathy trial. He suggests slamming a beach ball before sending each video because he could see and hear it when looking into the future. It matters to do it before each video once.
Maria has a crush on Joe Rogan but knows he's married. Participant four asks to go on a double date with participant five and his girlfriend, referencing something participant five already asked about participant four. He also suggests trying the beach ball slam, which participant five hadn't heard about—he was at home with his mom after a 20-minute break, nowhere near the building. Natalia shrugs in surprise as she and Maria see students often discussing the same things psychically.
Non-speakers maintain incredible focus while typing, using a sing-song voice, and holding psychic conversations. Many have dyspraxia, making body control difficult, contributing to speech issues. They all seem gifted. They independently mention meeting psychically "on the hill," not taught to them.
Julia had a dream where participant four showed her a slowly rotating orb like a sun with sunspots. Next day over Zoom, without telling Maria, she asked what he gave her last night. He spelled: "I can't get over this. I sent you a pre-revolutionary orb with four stars on it slowly rotating." Sunspots were like stars; poetic license made it 80% correct. "Pre-revolutionary" is unexplained, possibly relating to a "love revolution" for communicating via love.
Another non-speaker (young woman on left) read Julia's mind during remote viewing of Comet NEOWISE (also called Threeey Atlas, spelled phonetically as he heard it). She mentioned the comet and an owl from a video Julia saw. Natalia and parent didn't know what it was. Later, he tapped into Julia's thoughts about her stepmom's medication, used her name (unknown to Natalia), said she'd be okay and it would help, and instructed Natalia to text Julia. He also came up with Julia's son's name.
Family asks him for mediumship, like grandpa's thoughts. Grandmother had a lung transplant; he identified a probable donor who died that day in the area—confirmation takes a year. Husband had double transplant; info release requires agreement. Julia didn't want to treat him like a show pony during lessons.
In lesson on Gothic art, asked purpose: "It afarizes the masses." Maria looked up "afarizes"—1600s word meaning appeases or calms. He learned it talking with a magistrate from that period.
Non-speakers don't distinguish alive from dead, spending less time in physical. He mentioned talking to JP (another non-speaker), unaware JP died, relaying recent info about JP's mom two years post-death. Windbridge Research Center studies mediumship: talking to dead, informational substrate, or same thing? Reality isn't locked; non-speakers access beyond.
Like blind people hearing better. New York Times article on Cold Spring Harbor researchers' singing mice: vocalize audibly when far apart, take turns like conversation. Minimal brain differences (more fibers) from regular mice. Suggests non-speaking autism differs in degree from speaking, accessing info filtered out by language users.
Babies likely telepathic, learning language with few exposures (e.g., linking "apple" to object). Pre-language existence like William James' "blooming, buzzing confusion." Accessing baby-like thinking impossible with language knowledge.
Reliving trauma as wiser adult self, introducing second character to affirm: you're loved, it'll be okay. Helps with abuse or bad choices.
Dogs feel telepathically. Joe Rogan's golden retriever Marshall loves everyone unconditionally; small dog (King Charles Cavalier Spaniel Charlie) attacks him, but Marshall tolerates. Dream: tiny Charlie (Chihuahua/mouse-sized) running into traffic.
Dreams convey essence beyond appearance. Non-speakers confuse animals (camels/kangaroos) by form, prioritizing inner feeling—proof of soul. Study souls scientifically via informational substrate underlying spacetime, matter, energy: all info from universe's beginning to end, including thoughts/feelings. Soul inserts/reads info from it.
Aesthetic appeal; gifted people (non-speakers, remote viewers) access different times/places in spacetime.
Precognition allows accessing information from different spaces, different times, at rates greater than chance, especially in states of self-transcendence or feeling love. This suggests a link between universal events, experiences, intentions, and a universal love force. As a scientist, approach this as a physics of love: an informational soup containing all information, which we interact with throughout lives. Time is non-linear; precognition shows information from future events accessible above chance, and most people can do it unconsciously. Physiology changes indicate information leaking backwards from the future.
Information could leak backwards infinitely, to the end of the universe (heat death). Akashic records: cosmic library storing every event, thought, feeling, intention—past, present, potential future (in theosophy, anthroposophy). Accessible via psychic/mystical means. Sensing future events (seconds, minutes) taps into this forever-accessible field. Time as a landscape: normally walk linearly (single file), but mystical practices (Akashic records, remote viewing) allow flying above, seeing beyond (e.g., waterfall past mountain), accessing via different dimension.
Everything made of atoms, subatomic particles in superposition (moving/still simultaneously), quantumly entangled across distances. Consciousness tunes into this via minds, connected spookily at a distance—not weird, as we're made of quantum wave particles. Chemicals in bodies, birds, leaves in quantum coherence/superposition (e.g., photosynthesis).
Leaf does quantum computing for photosynthesis at room temperature (above), trapping photon energy better than human tech, without supercooling/error correction. Current quantum computing mistake: trapping single subatomic particles, forcing patterns—wrong, since leaves do it naturally in sun. Started thinking this 12 years ago, passionate about photons as link between mind/matter (no mass, bosonic particles).
Particles: fermionic (protons, neutrons, electrons—can't occupy same space); bosonic (Higgs boson, photons, superfluid helium—no mass, can occupy same space simultaneously, interact in less-physical dimension). Photons linked to mind/brain.
Setup: flashlight one end of tube, photon detector other end, two skinny slits in between (low light: one photon at a time chooses slit). Result: interference pattern (particle goes through both slits, non-local in space). Works with photons, electrons, larger particles. Non-local in time too: particle interferes with future particles.
Experiment: randomly decide light duration (e.g., first 30s, then random: off or on 2 more min). Analyze first 30s pattern to predict future decision—if yes, photons interfere from future. Replicated multiple times; UC Berkeley friend ran year-long replication, sent data (analyzed blind): same result. Equation relates future time after decision to pre-decision detection pattern. Shifts quantum computing: room temp, photon groups as time units (not trapped singles).
Well Analogy
Like deep well: drop object, hear ding to gauge depth—photons give reverberation from future, revealing experiment length.
Observer doesn't "change" reality (implies different timeline)—better: influence via retrocausality (future influences past). Double-slit: detector at slit (to know which path) collapses interference to single-slit pattern (behaves like billiard ball). Observer gains knowledge, affecting system—photons as part of mind, mind affects mind (like affects like). Observing universe co-creates existence; minds influence via figure-8 time loops.
Current: trap single particles/ions/photons, force gates like classical computers. Wrong: ignores natural group properties (e.g., leaf photosynthesis in wet environment). Needs naturalistic approach, including temporal non-locality. Quantum computers tap multiple universes or retrocausality (infinite time access via loops)—retrocausality more likely, simplifies at room temp.
Many Worlds vs. Retrocausality
Don't need both (solve same problem), but possible: retrocausality in infinite timelines/loops. Universe works in unknown ways; deeper look reveals mind (physics leads to mind). Book: How the Hippies Saved Physics (1970s physicists tripping, realizing...
Physicists tripping on psychedelics experienced quantum mechanics as mind looking into mind. This aligns with extraterrestrial phenomena through Julia Mossbridge's book, featuring alien cover art by her husband depicting a quirky alien face.
The book is not about aliens despite the cover; it explores inner space, tapping into personal wisdom and experience rather than waiting for authority figures to reveal truths. Disclosure could happen anytime, even today with file releases, but expect redacted content and misinformation. External disclosure doesn't matter until personally experienced.
"It doesn't matter until you experience it. It doesn't matter until it matters to you."
True disclosure involves self-exploration, acknowledging weird personal thoughts and suppressed experiences like ball lightning, UAP/UFO sightings, psionic assets, or psychic experiences. Mossbridge suppressed her psychic abilities for her PhD but they resurfaced. Calls for a Copernican revolution shifting from authority to personal validation.
Joe Rogan agrees but notes value in honest experts. Discusses retrocausality where all timelines exist; evolutionary trajectory from ancient hominids to frail, big-headed, telepathic, genderless beings without muscles matches gray alien descriptions. Time as a figure-eight loop suggests these could be future humans. Mossbridge sees this as a strong hypothesis for grays; other beings described too. Michael Masters studies this; Rogan had him on the podcast.
Even if declared true, it requires demonstration like building something functional, akin to GPS proving general relativity.
Impressed by Anna Brady Estaves (ex-National Science Foundation) and her American Deep Tech fund investing in private sector companies using alternative propulsion, informational time travel, spacetime metric principles to reverse engineer UFOs, bypassing top five contracting companies holding knowledge.
Diana Pasulka's work fascinating; Rogan had her on. Idea that UFO materials are donations, echoed by Jacques Vallée and Garry Nolan. Physical samples show atomically layered, printed strange alloys costing billions, found in 1976 crash, defying explanation. Resemble acupuncture points in humanity's history to spur iPhone, cancer cures, faster-than-light travel.
Diana Pasulka discusses artifacts in American Cosmic, questioning their authenticity. Non-artifactual aspect involves consciousness and mystical awareness implanting helpful future information, like Mossbridge's photon experiment idea as a cognitive neuroscientist.
Muse could come from future; Eric Wargo discusses. Ideas as life forms manifesting physically through humans. All creations stem from ideas pulled from ether; inventors and creators admit ideas emerge mysteriously. Marshall McLuhan: "Human beings are the sex organs of the machine world."
Science as living being with desires; if you don't do the experiment, someone else will. Songwriters: if you don't write the song, someone else will. Image of Play-Doh Fun Factory heads extruding hair through holes—ideas emerge through available channels.
Singers, songwriters, authors describe ideas coming from nowhere; must receive them. Steven Pressfield's The War of Art masterpiece on treating muse as deity—show up daily with intention. Comedy requires being in the moment; even pre-written material fails without presence. Audiences sense inauthenticity like animals smelling fear; it's hypnosis or telepathy.
Overthinking kills flow, e.g., preplanning Joe Rogan appearance. Importance of now amid retrocausality discussions; ego blocks creation—get out of own way. Nonverbal non-speakers advantaged without self-perception monkey but burdened by societal judgment.
For Kai's documentary, team prayed for positive state knowing non-speakers are telepathic; first student felt the good energy in hallway. Book's first two chapters emerged unexpectedly in second person about a guy hearing walls talk; discovery process required clearing scholarly inhibitions, writing like a song. Worked on Mossbridge, revealing gifted program memories, leading to support group for surveillance feelings, questioning if gifts innate or implanted.
Best book she's written—everything wanted to say. Security clearance risk from discussing intelligence community in gifted programs and remote viewing.
Intelligence community sought talent, psychic capacities without parental consent—unethical. Pink chalky drinks common. Two memory lapses: seventh grade SOARE program (1980-81, pre-GATE), weekly counselor sessions (man and woman) with blackouts after entering covered-window room. Adult: 20ish at Lockheed Martin (word processing job via ad or dad), hired instantly, shaking/crying by end of day with no recall, typed possible resignation, boss said she'd have great future.
Photographic/auditory memory otherwise excellent; suspects Lockheed record of gifted program. Dad worked Department of Energy. Support group: all parents in public schools or federal government—federal government mining exceptional children for cognitive, leadership, creative, psychic abilities via contractors.
Recruited for federal job four days after FOIA on program; FOIA office asked to continue, then passed interview. Unethical: non-consensual ingestion, memory removal experiments on children instead of normal lives. Many report amnesic periods; some recall abuse. Targeting exceptional powers/cognitive abilities.
You've suddenly changed everything by introducing scientific experiments and making them drink Pepto-Bismol or some amnesia-inducing pink substance or radioactive thing. Julia recounts a dream after moving to Washington DC, considering federal government work without a job offer. A red convertible with an FBI badge follows her, driven by a guy who says, "We like how spunky you are, but call the office." She demands the phone number, crawls on the hood, gets it, wakes up, and writes it down. It's the only dream where a phone number matches reality: a government agency monitoring radiation exposure. The first document found details 1970s human radiation exposure tests from the nuclear defense agency, stating they can't test on animals, must use humans—neither about giving radiation nor healing agents.
This prompts questions about radioactivity effects. Julia's mom grew up poor near a uranium mining facility in Denver; her father was a miner coming home with uranium dust on boots, mother a secretary. Intergenerational exposure, especially maternal, as women's eggs form early and can mutate. Julia and her sister could be study subjects.
First SOAR program in 1970s Aiken, South Carolina: "Students On Active Research." Newspaper articles confirm. By Illinois, renamed "Scholarly Opportunities in the Academic Realm"—active research too creepy. Aiken next to Savannah River nuclear facility processing plutonium. Programs in Nevada nuclear test site. Friend from area with radioactivity containers in school storage knew special forces guys in these programs.
Speculation: understanding radiation effects on human mind, possibly positive at low levels. As cognitive neuroscientist, she gets it, but consent, risks, clarity required. Files follow participants. History of MKUltra: do everything without permission—Operation Midnight Climax on intelligence officers, then prisoners, then children in 1970s. Foster kids, those from breaking families in public schools. Unethical, probably illegal, possibly for good reasons.
DC-area gifted programs same generation report none of this—red flag, as those are executives' kids in intelligence/contractors, like draft exemptions: privilege.
Early childhood difficulties brought clarity; precognitive abilities highlight what matters for healing and improving the world. Everyone involved did their best, even shitty choices. Counselor might think it's for country/humanity. Julia sends love back in time.
Joe notes balanced view explains wanting to relive youth for forgiveness. Julia wears shirt for Applied Love Labs, nonprofit started 2019: applies love through technology, events, curricula, weaving through time.
Demo at timeachine.lo: audio journaling app. Prompts messages to self, "going into your time machine," later plays back future self. Bizarre impact—hearing actual voice unlike written notes. Favorites for veterans, addiction/abuse survivors: commit to tomorrow's choices, self-love, love others. Used at Cook County Jail, native tribes (customized culturally). Stats show unconditional love shifts time perspective, expanding self-love bubble over time.
Julia created to handle childhood abuse.
Joe wants book again: Have a Nice Disclosure by Julia Mossbridge, PhD. Three hours flown; scratched surface, plan more podcasts. Remote viewing next—Julia taught, experimented, has team. Audiobook narrated by her; prefers author's voice over actors.
Thank yous and goodbye.
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