Joe Rogan Experience #2573 - Legion of Skanks
In a Nutshell
Joe Rogan hosts Legion of Skanks comedians Big Jay Oakerson, Luis J. Gomez, and Dave Smith for a wide-ranging conversation covering medical malpractice, organ harvesting ethics, extreme body modification, and wildlife attacks. The discussion explores dark topics including doctors killing patients for organs, voluntary amputations for sexual fetishes, and extreme websites featuring self-mutilation. They also cover comedy industry history, Ari Shaffir's antics, and debate fast food preferences during hypothetical kidnapping scenarios.
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Joe Rogan hosts comedians Big Jay Oakerson, Luis J. Gomez, and Dave Smith from the Legion of Skanks podcast.
Bob Levy performed the same joke for 20 years where he would pull dressing out of someone's ass on stage. The joke never failed and Levy never had a night where the dressing was sealed. The group speculates Levy must have had the highest rates of pink eye among patients.
A gynecologist who constantly works on vaginas is compared to a cop who constantly pulls over people lying to them. Both professions deal primarily with broken people and assume everyone is messed up. The conversation notes that by the time someone visits a gynecologist, especially a male one, they're unlikely to be showing off a perfect vagina.
If asked at age 13, becoming a gynecologist would have been considered a dream job. The group jokes that porn stars must have to visit doctors and that would be an ideal position, though eight years of medical school is acknowledged as excessive.
A significant number of doctors get into drugs because they can prescribe them and prescribe them to each other. Joe mentions having a doctor friend who's always on something and taking pills for various conditions. The book "Dead Doctors Don't Lie" by Joel Wallach discusses nutritional supplements and argues that nutrition is the foundation of health rather than going to doctors, claiming most doctors are out of their minds.
Medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death, with hospitals regularly making mistakes. The book contains stories of doctors dying of overdoses during operations. The group discusses how a friend had the wrong kidney removed during surgery, with the correct kidney removed instead and the patient sent home before the error was discovered.
People have had the wrong leg amputated, and the group questions what the review process involves when such mistakes occur. The discussion notes that some people are shitty drivers but still maintain licenses, and terrible carpenters get hired despite poor work quality.
A lot of work gets done by people who are simply willing to do it, regardless of their skill level. Many people say they'll figure it out rather than admitting they'll do it badly. The group mentions that anyone can go to law school or medical school, with some schools in the Bahamas accepting anyone and graduates with C's becoming doctors.
The conversation addresses whether someone can attend medical school in Mexico, take a test, and practice in America. The joke about cab drivers being doctors in their home countries is referenced, noting that foreign doctors must go through lengthy licensing procedures to practice in America, unlike commercial vehicle operators where illegals can get licenses without proper training.
The recurring joke about cab drivers who were spinal surgeons in their home countries but now smell bad is discussed. The licensing requirements for foreign doctors in America are contrasted with the ease of getting commercial vehicle licenses.
A story about a father whose adult child was in a coma and scheduled to be taken off life support. The father brought a gun and had a two-day standoff with police, insisting his child was still alive. The child eventually came out of the coma and survived, and the father went to jail for a year but saved his child's life.
The Anna Nicole Smith incident where her dead body was being taken out and she popped up and sat up is discussed. They shoved her back down and put her in a body bag. The group notes this was a conspiracy theory but she might have been dying from a horrible car accident where she ran into a house while on drugs.
There's a phenomenon where dead bodies move in morgues, with arms going up and stiffening in weird ways. People have been brought to morgues thought to be dead but came back to life because they had such low heartbeats that death was assumed.
For organ donation, the donor must actually be alive. If someone dies in a car accident and has been dead for two hours, their organs cannot be donated. The organs must be removed while the person is still alive and receiving oxygen. The question of who makes the call about when to harvest organs is raised, with instances where people said no to organ harvesting and the person survived.
When someone is declared brain dead, organs can be harvested while the person is technically alive. The brother-in-law has transplanted lungs, and the discussion covers cold preservation and the typical windows between organ recovery and transplantation. The organs must be removed promptly after the heart stops beating to preserve oxygen levels.
Joe signed up to be an organ donor assuming organs would be taken after death in a car accident. The concern is whether doctors would give 110% effort to save someone who's an organ donor, or if financial incentives might influence decisions about life and death.
When profit is involved, gray areas emerge where subjective calls can be made about whether someone lives or dies. The 99 times out of 100 accuracy rate means that one time could affect someone loved. Joe's organs are described as garbage, with a fatty liver that smells like marb (Marlboro cigarettes).
Joe's brother-in-law has two transplanted lungs and couldn't attend a family event at Lincoln Financial Field due to wildfire smoke from Canada. Transplant recipients must take anti-rejection medicine for life, which is essentially giving yourself AIDS by suppressing the immune system. The brother-in-law couldn't go outside during the smoke because it would be certain doom.
Ben Askren almost died from an infection that was rotting his lungs. His wife convinced him to go to the hospital where they discovered holes in his lungs. He underwent a double lung transplant as a healthy, elite wrestler and former MMA champion. Joe experiences hypochondria and feels like the same thing is happening to his lungs during the conversation.
Face transplant technology has improved significantly. The discussion covers what happens when someone can make a decision about whether you live or die, and if it's the wrong decision, you're dead and no one cares while the hospital makes money.
Hulk Hogan told his son after an accident where a friend died that he didn't know what the friend did to get wrong with God. The group criticizes this approach, noting that when someone dies, you're supposed to say sorry rather than giving reasons why they died. The actual reason was the son drove into a tree.
A video shows a priest who was talking about getting right with God before dying when he gets killed by a cross. The church scrambled to find dirt on this guy. Catholic priests and pedophilia are discussed as linked, with the group noting that mentioning Catholic priests to people their age immediately brings pedophilia to mind.
The documentary "Hear No Evil" details how Catholic priests who molested children were moved from place to place. One priest molested a hundred deaf kids after being moved to a school for deaf children. A disgraced pope was involved in moving these priests. This was standard policy for handling problem priests.
Dr. Seuss drew a lot of racist stuff, including problematic content. Looney Tunes and Warner Brothers cartoons from the 1930s contained racist imagery, including a big bad wolf that was originally a Jewish person before being converted to a wolf.
A racism episode of Bewitched used the nose wiggle trick to make a racist feel bad by making him see everyone as black, with the entire cast in blackface including children. The discussion notes that in the 80s and 90s, people could dress as basketball players for Halloween without the same level of scrutiny.
Blackface Halloween costumes from the 80s and 90s are common among people hoping the photos never surface. Justin Trudeau is mentioned as an example. The conditioning to fear any form of racial impersonation is discussed.
Roddy Piper wrestled Bad News Brown at Wrestlemania 6 and came out in half black body paint. The distinction between half black and full black is noted as making it acceptable.
At Naked Roast a couple years ago, Dave Smith painted his dick black for a black dick joke and was going to do blackface but stopped when Yamanika walked by. The distinction between blackface and brownface is discussed, with the pitch black Al Jolson style being the most offensive.
A hypothetical question asks if someone would take a black person's organ if needed. The answer is yes, of course. When given a choice between a white or black person's heart, the preference is for whichever person was healthier, ate fruits and vegetables, and worked out, regardless of race.
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The group discusses elaborate funeral memorials with sparklers and special effects that occurred within a week of someone's death. They debate appropriate grieving periods, with one person expecting his wife to remain inconsolable and wear black with a veil for five or six months after his passing, never moving on with another partner. He contrasts this with his own personality, stating he would require companionship and not want to be alone if his wife died.
The conversation shifts to cremation practices. They note that crematoriums mix ashes from multiple bodies, and even when paying extra for separate cremation, bone chips remain in the final product. One participant mentions paying additional fees for their dog's separate cremation to avoid mixing with other animals' remains.
They discuss alternative body disposition methods including tree pod burials where bodies decompose under trees. The cost of these methods is noted as prohibitively expensive. The Tibetan sky funeral tradition is described in detail, where bodies are taken to mountaintops, chopped into chunks, and consumed by vultures as part of returning the body to nature.
The hosts recount their failed attempt to fillet fish during a podcast, resulting in a messy, violent process that looked like "ceviche." They describe watching an online fishing expert named Sakana Syndicate who catches fish from a kayak and prepares gourmet meals on the water, including raw preparations and cooked dishes using portable burners.
Tiger shark encounters during kayak fishing are discussed, including a specific incident where a shark bit the side of a kayak. The group notes the inherent dangers of ocean activities compared to land-based activities. They mention Puerto Ricans not being present in the ocean as a humorous observation.
End-of-summer podcast games included filleting fish and a football throwing challenge where one participant wore a blindfold while holding a hula hoop above his head while another attempted to throw a football through it.
Specific filleting advice is given: start from the back along the spine rather than from the bottom near the guts. The failed filleting attempt is compared to a "Tibetan sky funeral" in terms of the violence inflicted on the fish.
Bass fishing is debated as potentially pointless since the fish are typically released. Concerns about forever chemicals (PFAS) in freshwater fish are raised, with specific mention of environmental toxins from plastics, car oil, and runoff that accumulate in lakes and fish. A tournament fisherman who ate only perch suffered health problems from these contaminants.
Fishing experiences in Puerto Rico and the Bahamas are shared, including warnings about not eating certain fish over specific sizes due to reef feeding and toxin accumulation. Barracuda safety varies by location around islands, with guides advising which areas are safe to eat from.
Fear Factor experiences include eating sheep's eyeballs and live Madagascar hissing cockroaches. The psychological aspect of eating unusual foods is emphasized - the difficulty is primarily mental rather than taste-based. The hosts note that survival situations would force acceptance of these foods.
The authenticity of survival shows is contrasted. Survivorman is described as genuinely surviving alone with no crew, documenting his own deterioration over days without food. Bear Grylls is portrayed as having production support and hotel stays between filming, though he did perform legitimate survival tasks on camera.
The Alone survival show format is detailed: participants are dropped in remote Canadian wilderness with temperatures dropping from 30°F to 8°F over 60 days. Contestants don't know how many others remain, creating psychological uncertainty. A participant named Jordan Jonas killed a moose with a bow and arrow and fought off a wolverine with an axe to protect the meat.
A fatal otter attack is described where a woman was killed after an otter grabbed her leg during a morning swim. Another incident involved a certified swim instructor from Reno who was attacked by an otter that bit and clawed her face, nose, cheek, armpits, and legs for five minutes, requiring 38 stitches and rabies vaccinations.
A woman was viciously attacked by a group of 10 otters while she was in a supermarket parking lot in Utah. The otters tore at her arms, legs, and even the back of her scalp. She had been filming them beforehand, gushing about how adorable they were before the attack occurred.
Joe Rogan described an encounter with a badger in Utah where he attempted to film it at night, but the animal puffed up and started marching toward him aggressively, causing him to panic and run back to his truck.
Ducks that cross urban streets receive different treatment from drivers compared to those in hunting areas. When ducks are accustomed to being hunted, they fly away quickly, but urban ducks take their time crossing roads because they know no one will run them over.
Evergreen, Colorado has a migration of elk that go through the center of town every year. The males are 800-pound animals that wander through streets and buildings. This behavior occurs because no one shoots at them in town, so they have learned that roads and buildings are safe. In the woods, they would immediately smell humans and run away.
Colorado has more elk than any other state. Hunting requires a tag and is difficult in the mountains, though the town elk are easier to find. Archery season typically runs in September, followed by rifle season, then a late archery season.
On Long Island, deer can only be killed with bow and arrow due to residential neighborhood restrictions. Even then, there have been incidents of poaching where neighbors' houses have been hit by crossbow bolts.
Deer are considered delicious, and there have been cases where they get their antlers caught in backyard structures like batting cages. One incident involved a deer trapped in a net for 30 minutes, flipping and swinging back and forth until police arrived to free it.
Deer can die from extreme stress and struggling after getting stuck in fences or nets. The condition is called capture myopathy or external myopathy. Signs include weakness, stiff muscles, tremors, dark urine, and collapse. A deer may initially look okay after release but deteriorate hours or days later due to severe muscle damage and overheating affecting major organs.
New Jersey has a high deer population, and driving at night is particularly dangerous. Deer sometimes jump through car windows and kick occupants. There was a case in Oregon where a driver was killed when a deer hit by the car in front flipped through the air and crashed through his windshield.
A Canadian man known as "Side Neck" was driving when he hit a moose. The moose's legs went through his windshield, and it kicked his head sideways like a cartoon, leaving him with permanent neck damage. He wrote a diss track about the moose but left out the origin story details.
Cross-country runners sometimes get hit by deer that run right through them. Motorcyclists on canyon runs at high speeds face particular danger when deer jump in front of them, with the combination of momentum and potential antler injuries being especially dangerous.
Joe Rogan expressed interest in getting a motorcycle but is too concerned about safety risks. He noted that even goggles wouldn't protect against an antler impact at 70 mph.
The saddest sight while driving is seeing a dead deer on the roadside with another deer standing next to it, particularly when it's a mother with her baby. Some suggest the only solution is having predators in neighborhoods, but this creates problems as mountain lions have been found with 50% of their diet consisting of pets in California.
Alligators sometimes grab dogs at the edge of water in Florida. There was a famous incident in Gainesville where an alligator snatched a woman's poodle. A man jumped in and rescued the dog by beating the alligator until it released the pet.
Joe has both a golden retriever and a King Charles Cavalier. The little dog is extremely enthusiastic, loving, and wants nothing more than to kiss and jump on people. He noted that small dogs think they're guard dogs despite their size limitations.
Dogs have short memories, with some estimates suggesting only about half a day of memory retention. However, there are videos of military dogs recognizing their former handlers after years apart, showing strong attachment to specific people.
Ari's dog Bandit waits outside the bathroom door when Ari goes in and shows complete devotion to him. The dog was a rescue that had a difficult previous life and now associates Ari with love and safety.
Joe's golden retriever loves everybody equally and has no favorites among visitors. In contrast, his girlfriend's dog growls at certain people, and this instinct is trusted because the dog normally loves everyone.
When Joe and his girlfriend would have sex, her dog would scratch at the door and whine, then sit on the pillow and stare at them if allowed in the room.
Joe's dog ate two pounds of gravel after chicken food spilled on it, then later ate a turtle including the shell, requiring multiple vet visits. The dog has zero survival instincts and would be friendly to anyone regardless of appearance or threat level.
Joe's big dog panics during fireworks and storms, running around the house and whining, while his little dog shows no reaction to loud noises.
Joe loves watching old cell phone videos of fireworks shows he's personally witnessed, though acknowledges nobody actually watches these videos after recording them.
There was a video of a man whose firework exploded in his hand, causing severe damage, yet he immediately shotgunned a beer while holding his injured hand before the aftermath showed the permanent damage.
Joe has created a safe fireworks launching system using a tube surrounded by cinder blocks to prevent misfires from hitting nearby structures like third-floor windows or bushes.
Joe buys about $800 worth of fireworks and sets them off himself. In Long Island, fireworks are illegal, so he travels to Pennsylvania to purchase them. In Texas, much more powerful fireworks are legally available from roadside vendors.
Fireworks can be purchased legally in Texas with minimal restrictions. A machine gun-style firework tube was demonstrated that launches projectiles horizontally rather than vertically, creating significant safety concerns. The group discussed the potential for these devices to be misused if pointed at structures instead of into the sky.
Roman candle fights were common among the group during their teenage years. Chlorine bombs were also made using empty 2-liter soda bottles filled with cracked chlorine tablets, which are then sealed, shaken, and thrown before exploding after approximately 15 seconds.
A graphic image was shown of a man whose hand was severely damaged by fireworks, appearing almost completely severed. The injury left the hand resembling a claw-like structure. The discussion included speculation about prosthetic options, including attachments that could function as tools or even include sexual enhancements.
A man from Australia was mentioned who lost his hand and leg to a shark attack and now uses carbon fiber prosthetics. The prosthetics are described as lighter than natural limbs and potentially more functional for certain tasks.
The conversation explored the ethical implications of voluntary amputation for healthy limbs if advanced prosthetics become superior to natural body parts. A case was discussed of a vascular surgeon in England who had his own legs amputated as part of a sexual fetish, then attempted to file an insurance claim by claiming the injuries resulted from sepsis. He was sentenced to 32 months in prison for insurance fraud.
The surgeon was found to be a paying customer of a website called UNICMAKER.COM, which featured videos of men and boys engaging in self-mutilation or allowing others to mutilate them. One video showed a man named Gustofson castrating another man, while another featured a man tied to a bed while dice determined which body parts would be removed.
Devin Lorat's brother Shannon Lorat ran the website Body Modification Extreme (BME), which featured extreme body modification content including genital modifications. The site received submissions of people slicing their own genitals with razor blades.
The discussion covered various fetishes, including foot fetishes where individuals derive sexual pleasure from feet, particularly after physical activity. Instagram content was mentioned showing women inserting objects between their feet and shoe insoles for sexual purposes.
Autogynephilia was discussed as a psychological condition where men become sexually aroused by dressing as women without identifying as women or being attracted to men. This was contrasted with modern transgender identification, noting that autogynephilia has been documented in psychological literature for decades.
The surgeon's arrest involved possession of extreme pornography, including videos showing castration procedures and self-amputation. The content was described as being available at surprisingly low prices on specialized websites.
Instagram algorithms led to content about penis enhancement surgeries where tissue is inserted to increase both length and girth. The procedures involve cutting at the base where the scrotum meets the penis and inserting plastic sheaths to stretch and plump the tissue.
Jay considered getting liposuction on his pubic area to make his penis appear larger. During a consultation, the surgeon required him to stand in front of a mirror while demonstrating the difference between his current appearance and post-surgical results.
Viagra was originally developed to treat high blood pressure and chest pain. Recent research suggests it may limit cancer cells' ability to use cholesterol, potentially preventing metastasis by inhibiting cancer cells from breaking away from primary tumors.
Videos exist showing women performing sexual acts with horses, with the surprising volume of ejaculate being noted as a consistent feature. Professional horse semen collection was described as requiring specialized equipment and techniques.
An incident on Legion of Skanks involved Jay holding a flashlight while performing a sexual act on another cast member. Ari Shafir was mentioned for frequently urinating in bottles rather than using bathrooms, including during recordings and at comedy events like Skankfest.
Ari was described engaging in public defecation during a Kill Tony appearance at Skankfest, placing cardboard on stage and defecating in front of the audience.
A journalist was harassing Bjork at the airport by following her around with a camera in her face. She eventually turns and starts attacking the person. The group initially thought it was a man but realized it was a woman. Dan Soder showed a video years ago of Bjork explaining the inside of a computer on YouTube, describing it like a little city with people going up in elevators and wires like people. She also explains an open TV. The group finds it hilarious but notes how rude it is to run up to someone and stick a camera in their face.
The conversation shifts to people who stand outside stores videotaping others under the guise of free speech. These individuals are described as looking for trouble, with the response being to get the camera out of their face. The group notes there's a whole genre of this content on X (Twitter) and that too many people are looking for content. If someone's response to something you say is "what," they're already an asshole.
Bjork attacked a paparazzi photographer after arriving in New Zealand for a concert in 2008. The photographer described how she grabbed the back of his black skivvy, tore it, and fell to the ground. At no point did he touch her or speak with her. Bjork said nothing during the incident, but her male companion was saying "Don't do this, she's just wild." The group describes her as untethered and unfathered, noting she dressed like a duck. They joke that having an umlaut in your name creates mental problems.
Bjork is from Iceland, which is described as a wild place filled with giant human beings. Some of the biggest strong men in the world come from Iceland, including Prometheus and Bjorn from Game of Thrones. The group discusses whether this is due to genetics or Viking heritage, noting these are the real leftover Vikings. When seeing strongman competitors, you have to imagine a boatload of them pulling up on shores with battle axes, possibly on mushrooms. The genetics are still present in those mountains.
The group mentions the scene in The Odyssey where giants run through the woods hacking people up. They discuss the adaptation, noting some people were mad about the woke casting but still said it was good. Elliot Page was cast as a soldier, which took some viewers out of it. They note that a trans cop is less scary than a female cop.
Joe had an interaction with a trans man (woman to man) who had a pleasant interaction. Another story involves almost hitting a city bike guy while pulling out of a parking space. The cyclist fell off but was fine. A woman started screaming from the street telling them to stay there, claiming a pedestrian was hit. The cyclist took off on his bike, leaving the woman screaming at the driver. The driver decided to stay for what promised to be a fun argument.
The woman called the cops, claiming she was being threatened. A trans man (appearing like Conor McGregor but with a woman's voice) started screaming out a window about talking to a woman that way and threatening to kick ass. The driver yelled back, saying he'd been waiting his whole life for this moment. The trans man came back with what appeared to be a gun but was actually a black dildo with a gun handle that he flashed through the window. The cops shut down the block with fire trucks, ambulance, and 20 cops. After 45 minutes, they discovered it wasn't a gun but a black dildo. The group jokes that a black dildo is more scary to a Puerto Rican guy than a gun.
The conversation turns to why some people are so insistent on being involved in conflict. It's described as conflict finding them, like a Larry David situation where they can't let things go. Small slights snowball into bigger things. Road rage is discussed as coming from being in a heightened state of awareness while driving, already at a seven on the tension scale. The advice is to let out the anger but not chase people down. A Louis C.K. bit is referenced about getting angry over slight lane changes.
Ideas for getting back at bad drivers include getting a dry erase board to write clever clips, an LED banner on the windshield, or a loudspeaker system. Steve has a middle finger device in his car that can show different gestures. Legal considerations are discussed regarding sound systems in New Jersey, where anything plainly audible at 50 feet or more is illegal, and emergency sirens are prohibited. Horn laws are mentioned, with New York City making it illegal to honk unless warning of imminent danger, with fines from $800 to $2,500.
Tesla's horn placement is criticized as being a button on the steering wheel rather than the center. The removal of stalks for blinkers and drive/reverse selectors in favor of buttons and screen swipes is discussed. The group notes these changes seem designed for eventual fully automated cars. Cyber cabs in Austin are mentioned, with some appearing to drive aggressively. An Uber driver story reveals that an earlier self-driving company learned horrible habits from real drivers, including going through red lights and speeding through school zones.
When telling Uber drivers to hurry up, some have pulled over and told passengers to get out. The advice is to be smoother when requesting faster service, saying things like "I'm kind of in a rush" rather than demanding they step on it.
Joe Rogan and his guests discuss their experiences with Tesla's full self-driving feature. One guest shares that they initially ignored the technology for a long time, preferring to drive themselves, but recently started using it when coming home from the club at night. The car stops at red lights automatically and handles everything without driver intervention. The system includes a camera that monitors the driver, preventing use while intoxicated.
The conversation addresses whether drunk drivers could use the feature. It's clarified that the driver camera prevents this, and claiming the car was driving wouldn't be a valid defense. The guests discuss the potential for blind people using the technology and the challenges with navigation systems misinterpreting voice commands. They express skepticism about the reliability of speech-to-text systems for navigation.
Tesla's Summon feature is discussed, which allows cars to pull out of parking lots and drive to the user. The feature doesn't work at gated communities, airports, or locations requiring security checks. The guests predict that within 5-10 years, Uber drivers will be replaced by automated taxis.
One guest recounts getting their first Tesla in 2017-2018, noting the early self-driving required stopping for stop signs and lights. They describe driving on Laurel Canyon with hands off the wheel, though the early version was shaky. The new system has five modes: snail mode, slow mode, normal, fast, and an aggressive mode.
The guests discuss Waymo vehicles in Austin that were shut down after one pulled between cops and shooters during a shootout. They mention problems with multiple Waymos at intersections not knowing how to proceed. Waymo operates on Lidar while Tesla uses cameras, creating different vulnerabilities when power grids fail.
Recent arrests in South Korea involved hackers who enabled full self-driving without paying the subscription fee. The feature isn't legal for most Tesla models in Korea, only US-built Model S, X, and Cybertruck. The guests express frustration with subscription models for features already built into cars, comparing it to Audi requiring monthly fees for Apple CarPlay.
One guest shares their Tesla has 106,000 miles with no brake changes or oil changes needed. The regenerative braking system reduces brake usage significantly. The battery life decreases over time, similar to phone batteries, dropping from 310 miles to 250 miles range.
The guests compare Tesla to BYD vehicles seen in France, noting BYD's comfort and that China has supercars faster than anything available in America. The Cybertruck is described as polarizing but incredible, with one guest sharing a story of someone losing furniture from an unsecured load.
A visit to the Tesla diner is recounted, noting the limited 10-item menu and two giant movie screens. Only Tesla owners can watch movies in their cars at the diner. The cheeseburger is described as terrible, leading to commentary that Elon Musk should focus on rockets rather than food.
A guest describes the best burger eaten at Bar Desi in San Sebastian, Spain, describing it as meat that's almost like cream cheese in a bun, barely cooked. The emotional reaction to the final bite is compared to taking ecstasy. The meat blend was developed over two years with specific fat-to-meat ratios.
The conversation covers Spanish steak culture, noting older cows are preferred and aged. The fat is dark yellow from grass-fed diets rather than corn. Spanish steakhouses cook over live coals with just salt. One guest believes the best steakhouse in the world is in Spain.
The guests discuss visiting multiple Michelin star restaurants in Spain, including Castle Julian. They describe the cooking techniques of chefs who've worked in famous kitchens for decades. The yellow fat on steaks from grass-fed older cows is highlighted as particularly impressive.
The group discusses their ideal single food for life, with ribeye steak being the most popular choice due to its fat and protein content. Elk meat is mentioned as too lean without added fats. Sushi is considered but dismissed due to mercury concerns. McDonald's is acknowledged as an occasional guilty pleasure when nothing else is open.
One guest shares their experience filming a McDonald's commercial where a chef creates the best possible version of the burger, noting the final product never matches the commercial. They compare it to an actress's headshot versus reality. The conversation touches on McDonald's food preservation, mentioning a European country where a McDonald's burger on display hasn't rotted after 20 years.
McDonald's quality is judged primarily by temperature - when it's piping hot, that's considered a good experience. Busy locations are preferred because food turns over faster rather than sitting under heat lamps. Late night fast food is a specific consideration where Wendy's is considered the best burger option.
The group discusses the Ariel Castro kidnapping case in Cleveland involving multiple girls held captive, some becoming pregnant, with Castro kicking them to induce miscarriages. Castro eventually killed himself in jail. The story includes the detail that he fed them McDonald's daily from across the street.
The Legion of Skanks "Subway Counts" episode with R Shafir established that Subway counts as fast food. The hypothetical scenario discussed was: if kidnapped and chained to a radiator, what fast food chain would you choose for your daily meal as your only pleasure.
Wendy's was the clear winner because of variety including salads and baked potatoes. The discussion notes Wendy's lacks breakfast options.
Burger King is preferred for breakfast, particularly the croissant sandwich which they claim to have pioneered. The rectangular chicken sandwich is also highlighted. The Whopper is defended as superior to a Spanish burger mentioned in conversation.
Louis has an intense emotional reaction to a Spanish burger, including lip quivering and feeling moved by the final bite. The group jokes about this representing unresolved issues, loss, tragedy, and wishes to share experiences with his father.
Skankfest is promoted with single day passes available. R Shafir is returning, along with Mark Normand, Jim Norton, Christina P, Tim Dillon, and Eric Andre appearing for the first time.
Eric Andre and Chad Hanks had a confrontation where Hanks got in Andre's face. The conflict stems from Chad Hanks appearing on Eric Andre's show and messing with the format, which Andre didn't appreciate. Eric Andre allegedly called Chad Hanks the shittiest guest. The situation escalated when Chad cornered Andre at a comic event.
Chad Hanks is described as doing seven genres of music including R&B, rap, country, and country rap. The transition from rap to country is noted as a current trend, with Jelly Roll mentioned as an example.
Tom Hanks has two sons with very different personas. Colin Hanks is described as more traditional, tucking in button-down shirts, and appeared in the movie Orange County. The other son has neck tattoos and represents a complete departure from the Tom Hanks image.
The group discusses cultural appropriation controversies, including Chad Hanks getting in trouble for using certain language. They note the irony of black women complaining about cultural appropriation while wearing white wigs. Videos of black women confronting white women with braids are mentioned as examples of this issue.
The conversation covers how attitudes toward blackface have changed over time. References include Bewitched episodes, Ted Danson incidents covered by the New York Post, and Howard Stern's parody of Ted Danson. Joni Mitchell's 1977 album Don Juan's Reckless Daughter featured her in blackface as an African-American alter ego named Art Novo.
The discussion explores how people with questionable pasts often engage in excessive virtue signaling to compensate. The Bill Cosby effect is referenced. Howard Stern's shift to woke positions is discussed in context of his problematic archive material from his shock jock days.
Jay came up with calling Legion of Skanks "the most offensive podcast on earth" three years into the show so listeners know exactly what to expect. This transparency has prevented trouble despite controversial content. The subscription model was implemented early, avoiding advertising and maintaining unfiltered content.
The group discusses early Opie and Anthony content including the baby bird incident where someone vomited into another person's mouth. Pat Duffy is mentioned as the intern involved. The content was originally on FoundryMusic.com and streamed on Paltalk.
Ari Shafir was originally known as the Amazing Racist before being known as a comedian. Joe Rogan and Dave Smith rented National Lampoon videos featuring the character. The Amazing Racist content was created by the Shamwow guy.
A video shows someone attempting 75 shots with a flip phone recording from 2003. The person is noted to be diabetic. The content was from Opie and Anthony and involved extreme drinking challenges.
Opie and Anthony is credited as the birth of podcasting due to its open-ended format without predetermined topics or segments. The show featured comedians sitting and interacting naturally. Patrice O'Neal's first appearance is highlighted as particularly brilliant, taking over the room within seconds.
Howard Stern's transition from shock jock to more mainstream content is discussed. The change includes interviewing former adversaries in friendly settings and avoiding controversial Olympics segments with porn stars. Age and having daughters are mentioned as factors in this evolution.
The internet's arrival changed media dynamics by providing immediate feedback and making old content searchable. Stern faced attacks for past content that previously had no consequences. The concept of virtue signaling is discussed as becoming addictive due to social media validation.
Stern controlled the morning radio slot across the country before the internet era. His pioneering status in controversial radio content is acknowledged, though he didn't accept credit for creating a genre others followed. The shift to SiriusXM removed concerns about FM radio competition.
In the early days of comedy, there was intense competition among comedians because there were only a tiny amount of spots available and millions of guys who wanted to host shows like the Tonight Show. This created a different attitude where comedians felt they had to be the best or everyone else would catch up to them. There was a time when having ABC scouts in the audience was a major event, and getting put on an NBC showcase at a comedy club was considered significant. In the 1990s, getting a development deal would genuinely change someone's life, and everybody was getting them.
Michael Roof, known as "chicken," got the biggest development deal ever - a million dollar deal. The agents who signed him were young kids who didn't understand comedy and just heard noise, thinking he was amazing and talented. They signed him to the biggest development deal they had ever given anyone, but it all fell apart and nothing happened. Years later, he killed himself because his career went nowhere, hanging himself in front of a school.
Ali Joe Prader had a picture in the comedy store back room showing him big in a limo. The story goes that he was so unable to make it to the stage that he would sit during his set, and they would put a tarp over him. When the feature act was done, they would remove the tarp and he would start doing the show.
Ralphie May had multiple stomach stapling operations that he would eat through, requiring them to be redone multiple times. At one point, he was carrying a catheter that came out of his pants into a briefcase he was holding while performing. He was known for his pace and southern accent, and he could murder crowds at places like Dublins in Houston. He performed at Bonnaroo where he was taken around on his own golf cart and set up with a chair in the pit of the music, even falling asleep in front of a stack of Marshalls during Kendrick Lamar's set.
The Laugh Stop in Houston produced an incredible crop of talent including Mattie Kersh and others who were really funny comics but never made it big. Both Sam Kinison and Bill Hicks came out of that scene. Boston also had a strong comedy scene that produced talented comics like Steve Sweeney who never became stars despite their abilities.
On an old episode of Legion of Skanks, there was a challenge where the punishment for Ari Shaffir was that Joe Rogan, Dave Smith, and Big Jay shaved all their pubes and glued them to Ari to make a Hitler mustache. They used spirit gum to attach the pubes to his face, and the reveal was considered one of the funniest moments ever captured. The photo shows Dave Smith before he got political, and Louis J. Gomez taking particular perverted happiness in the prank.
Ari Shaffir has had two anal corrective surgeries described as "scrape out the ass" surgeries. He used to have to take pieces of toilet paper and stuff them between his cheeks to stop issues from happening. The group held his ass open once while he got it bleached, and another time when he had a hemorrhoid that looked like the demogorgon from Stranger Things. It's suggested he might need his anal glands expressed like a dog due to his feral nature.
Ari Shaffir is described as leaving the biggest stamp in standup comedy despite not being an arena act, mainly through affecting people's lives around him. He's considered the architect of his own happiness, creating a world where he does exactly what he wants to do. He takes off six months to a year from his podcast whenever he wants, and lives life on his own terms without caring about industry expectations.
Ari's Comedy Central special "Jew" was considered amazing and rock solid, with Ari working hard on it for a long time with a very specific subject to write material on. After the Kobe Bryant incident, he stopped doing it for a while until being encouraged to release it as a special, which performed well. Ari moved to New York and became an elite level comedian, with his standup becoming exceptionally good after the move.
Ari will go to Asia for six months with no phone, completely abandoning it so nobody can reach him. He sends cryptic text messages from places like Uganda and Sweden without identifying himself initially. He missed the first Skankfest ever last year but is coming back for the 10th anniversary. He recently got a tattoo from wherever they filmed Star Wars in Tunisia.
Skankfest is scheduled for November 13th and is described as the greatest comedy festival in the history of the known universe. Single day passes are available at skankfest.com, with Saturday potentially sold out. The festival is in its 10th year anniversary and will be the last one in New Orleans for quite some time.
The naked roast battle features comedians and judges all naked with no phones allowed. The judges include Joe Rogan, Jason Ellis who has an enormous penis, a porn star, and Steve. Joe puts his home phone number on his back and flexes for the audience, and one year he painted himself as having a black dick. The event is known for having no industry passes, with everyone there just to have a good time, and it's always sold out.
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