Bill Gurley: Searching for Feynman

Name: Bill Gurley: Searching for Feynman
Uploaded: 2026-09-19T00:30:06.000Z
Duration: 38 min 28 s
Channel: All-In Podcast

All-In PodcastSeptember 19, 202638m

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Introduction and Background0:00 Catastrophes and Human Response Framework1:30 Surfside Investigation Process3:00 Surfside Prevention Measures4:30 737 Max Crash Details5:00 737 Max Searchers6:30 737 Max Blockers and Regulatory Capture7:30 CAPA Framework9:00 Hurricane Katrina Investigation10:00 Katrina Institutional Failures11:30 Fukushima Disaster12:30 Fukushima Searchers and Blockers13:30 Fukushima Independent Commission14:30 Challenger Shuttle Disaster16:00 Richard Feynman Investigation16:30 Feynman Investigation Tactics18:00 COVID-19 Investigation Gap19:00 Missing COVID-19 Investigation Elements21:30 COVID-19 Blockers Identified22:30 Independent COVID-19 Researchers24:30 Five Women Who Questioned the Official Narrative26:12 The Misinformation Campaign27:02 Inconsistencies and Strong Statements28:31 The DEFUSE Proposal29:30 AI Assessment of the DEFUSE Proposal30:31 Current Status and Document Access31:00 Supporting Searchers and Root Cause Analysis32:01 Call for Independent Investigation33:00 Discussion on Damage to Children and Prevention33:31 Investigative Journalism and Pulitzer Prizes35:01 The Cost of Asking Questions36:02 Most Likely Origin Scenario37:00

In a Nutshell

Bill Gurley argues that COVID-19 caused 15 million deaths and $45 trillion in damage but six years later has no root-cause investigation like the ones conducted after Surfside, 737 Max, Katrina, Fukushima, or Challenger. He identifies five virology insiders as blockers who ran a misinformation campaign that suppressed lab-leak inquiry and blocked access to documents like the DEFUSE proposal, while a handful of independent searchers continue the work largely unsupported. Gurley calls for newsrooms and institutions to fund the equivalent of a Feynman-level investigation to determine the true origin and implement prevention measures before the next pandemic.

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Silicon Valley royalty. Legendary investor Bill Gurley. Track record's incredible. The legend who backed Uber and Zillow who's lived through every major tech cycle for over 25 years. You're not just a commentator, right? You've been an operator. I'd love to unlock this latent human potential. There's been no time in the history of the world where you can learn faster. You can increase your surface area for luck. I'm not a big fan of these dystopian narrative. The thing to do right now is to run as fast as you can.

It's good to be here again. Three years ago, I gave a talk on regulatory capture and this group was quite kind and how they reacted and how that video was promoted. And I'm very happy we got that word out into the public discourse. Obviously today you hear it quite a bit. I have a different topic I'm going to talk to you about today. It's not I'm not going to talk about AI. It's a serious topic and so there might not be as many fun joke parts in it. But it's something that's been weighing on my mind for the past five or six years and I'm thankful that the team here allowed me to come to talk to you about it and I'm hopeful that we can have an impact by getting the word out on this as well.

I'm going to start by talking to you about some catastrophes that have happened in the world and how humans normally respond to them. This is the Chamberlain Towers in Surfside, Florida. You may remember in June of 2021 when the building suddenly collapsed, 98 people died. What happened? There were design areas from the very beginning. There's poor maintenance schedule. And then the the board of the condominium did not listen to an inspection report that said they needed to take care of this. Three different things. That's kind of the institutional failure.

The technical failure was different. And you can see it here. This is a New York Times article. Hopefully they can push play so you can see. It's a 3D article. If if if they can't make it play, you'll have to watch it on your own. Um here we go. But the reason I want you to see this isn't to talk about the details of exactly how this collapsed. It turned out the pool deck was exposed to saltwater air. It corroded. The pool deck collapsed into the basement which took out the structural columns and the building came down. But what I want you to take away from this is the New York Times and its investigative team had excruciating detail about how this happened, which comes from doing primary investigative work.

There were four other parallel investigations that happened. The NIST is the National Institute of Standards and Technology. After 9/11, they were assigned as a federal agency to go investigate what happens in a building collapse. These two individuals, Matrini Risner and Bell, would spend five years on this. Allan Kilshimer is the wolf of building collapses. He's who you call when you want to figure out what happened. The town of Surfside hired him. Judge Randall would convene a grand jury in the state of Florida to investigate this. And there were 17 victim lawsuits which got put under a single class. Tropin was the the defender or the litigant and Hodsman was the judge that did that. All of these different groups were doing investigations on their own. Sometimes running into each other, sometimes helping each other out, but all trying to get at what caused the failure.

One particularly heroic group was the Miami Herald. They had just gone through bankruptcy. They had a new executive editor named Monica Richardson, but they went after this hard. The beat reporter, Alan Liuititz, was on the scene within two hours. Sarah Blaski would lead an investigative team. They would eventually find Don Leman who's a professor at the University of Washington. She would join the team. They would they would staff up to 37 people on this. They have a 3D model that's equally impressive to the New York Times one and they would deservedly win a Pulitzer Prize for the work that they did. When they won it, Monica Richardson, the executive editor, who also won an award for executive editor of the year from her peers, said, "We will continue to investigate the collapse to find answers to how this happened to ensure a tragedy like this never happens again."

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