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China Outbuilds America 230-to-1. Saronic Has a Plan

All-In PodcastAugust 6, 202648m
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Saronic is building autonomous ships to counter China's 230-to-1 shipbuilding advantage, having already demonstrated the first autonomous rescue of American pilots in the Strait of Hormuz using their 24-foot Corsair vessel. The company plans to produce hundreds of attritable ships annually with vertical launch systems at a fraction of traditional destroyer costs, leveraging integrated design-build operations and firm-fixed-price contracts rather than cost-plus models. Their strategy focuses on mass deployment of unmanned vessels in contested waters to keep personnel safe while delivering 320 VLS tubes per year versus 10-15 from conventional $3 billion destroyers.

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Saronic co-founders Dino Mavrukas and Vib Alka car joined the All In interview. The company recently made news with an autonomous ship operation in the Strait of Hormuz, representing the first time an autonomous ship rescued people in the field.

The mission involved rescuing two downed American pilots in a contested environment during conflict with Iran. The Navy trusted Saronic's Corsair, a 24-ft fully autonomous speedboat, to conduct the rescue rather than risking additional personnel. This demonstrated the ability to rescue people without putting soldiers in harm's way.

Dino Mavrukas shared a personal story from his Navy SEAL experience (2004-2015, with the last 5 years on SEAL Team 6), referencing the 2005 incident where four SEALs were trapped on a mountainside in Afghanistan and the rescue helicopter was shot down.

The pilots were in the water in a contested environment in the Straits of Hormuz. When the autonomous Corsair arrived, they recognized it as their way home. The pilots did not know in advance they would be rescued by an autonomous ship.

The United States can build 100,000 gross tons of ships per year. China can build 23 million gross tons, representing a 230-to-1 advantage. Thirty years ago, China had 5% of the world's shipbuilding capacity; today it has 57%. The Communist Party subsidizes raw materials and labor costs, making Chinese-built ships five to six times cheaper than American equivalents.

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