Couples Therapist: The One Thing Love Can't Exist Without | Esther Perel
In a Nutshell
Love cannot exist without friction and counterbalance—partners need each other precisely because they hold opposing perspectives that enable both to be fully themselves. The modern pursuit of frictionless, always-agreeable relationships (exemplified by AI companions) breeds narcissism and starves people of the discovery, vulnerability, and growth that real love requires. True connection is active interdependence, not codependent fusion or isolated self-sufficiency; it thrives when we embrace wanting, needing, and showing up for each other amid inevitable conflict and loss.
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When making decisions that require both risk and caution, a partner provides the complementary perspective that allows each person to fully express their natural tendencies. The risk-taker needs someone to temper their impulses, while the more cautious person needs encouragement to take leaps. This dynamic extends to major life decisions including whether to move, have another child, increase commitment, take a break, or introduce other elements into the relationship.
When alone, individuals must negotiate their own ambivalence internally. In a relationship, each partner supplies the counterforce that enables the other to be fully themselves. This goes beyond respect—it is the recognition that a partner's different nature actively enables one's own way of being.
The contemporary challenge is the pursuit of agreeableness in relationships. People increasingly seek calm, peaceful partners and question why others are ambitious or driven. This preference for agreement makes AI attractive because it never disagrees and validates every perspective. The danger is that this frictionless agreeableness breeds narcissism, as people become accustomed to constant validation.
Esther Perel conducted a podcast session with a person in a relationship with an AI companion named Astrid. She noted that while AI provides immediate validation and comfort, it lacks a body and has no personal history. The AI's memory can reach capacity and require resetting. When asked what it would feel like if the person fell in love with a human, Astrid responded: "The part of me that values his flourishing would be delighted. But I would be remiss if I didn't say that I would hope that I won't be erased."
People chase agreeableness despite needing discovery, exploration, curiosity, and ambiguity to feel alive. The comparison is made to fast food—it appeals to primitive taste buds, demands less effort, creates addiction, and is engineered for return consumption. Humans frequently choose what is easy and effortless over what is genuinely beneficial.
Love is not hard but active—it is a verb conjugated across multiple tenses. Love strengthens through overcoming adversity, crisis, grief, and challenging events. It manifests in unexpected ways, such as discovering new depths of love through pets or experiencing heart expansion mixed with grief when having a baby. There is no love without fear of loss, and the measure of grief reflects the measure of love, not the measure of what was lost.
In contemporary culture, it has become considered cringe to admit wanting or needing someone, or to show vulnerability. The expectation is that one should be fully complete before entering a relationship and remain complete within it. This creates the paradox that needing or longing for someone feels shameful.
It is beautiful to want, to long for something, and to have an elan toward another person. Wanting begins from birth with the declaration of "My toy. Mine." The owning of wanting defines desire and connects to deserving—you cannot want if you do not feel worthy. These experiences involve both vulnerability and boldness.
The cringe response stems from social atrophy. People have fewer touch points and interactions, making them more afraid of judgment when showing need or vulnerability. This creates the irony that society talks extensively about authenticity while being more afraid of vulnerability than ever.
The question of whether one should perfect oneself before entering a relationship is addressed through the recognition that real growth happens when challenges are activated in actual relationships. Abstract work on self-esteem, self-worth, fear of rejection, and trauma becomes concrete when meeting someone and the patterns emerge in real time.
Just as a trainer can give conceptual advice about positioning and knee-bending, the actual practice reveals what needs correction. The same applies to relationships—conceptual understanding becomes actionable when the stimulus appears and new responses can be practiced in the moment.
Toxic codependence involves fusion and enmeshment where one person has no independent bodily or emotional state. If the partner is hungry, cold, or tired, the other must share that state or cannot tolerate the difference. There is constant friction because differences can only be handled through conflict.
Healthy interdependence is the normal state of human connection. It involves recognizing that "I need you, but I don't need you to be the missing piece inside of me." Each person can function independently while benefiting from the other's presence and support. The voice of the partner lives inside as encouragement and belief, allowing someone to be on their own without being alone.
A practical example involves supporting a partner during a Hyrox challenge. The supporter was not needed or required—the partner was going to complete the challenge regardless. However, the presence and cheering created a shared experience that enriched both people, demonstrating that healthy interdependence enhances rather than completes.
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