Joe Rogan Experience #2482 - Andy Stumpf
In a Nutshell
Andy Stumpf promotes his book *Drown Proof*, sharing SEAL training insights on drownproofing risks, military bureaucracy, wasteful spending, and high-stakes ops like recent SEAL drownings and Iran rescue speculations involving depleted uranium or heartbeat-detection tech. Joe Rogan and Stumpf critique COVID vaccine issues (SV40 turbo cancers, African hCG sterilization), California's decline, EV limits in cold, jiu-jitsu injuries/training tips (fundamentals, no-gi grips, Iron Neck), and fringe topics like Kandahar giants, UFO disclosure, and quantum computing proving multiverses. Key takeaways: success stems from elite influences and relentless discipline; avoid complacency post-hardship; prioritize health via TRT/peptides, smart training, and natural burials over funeral scams.
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Andy Stumpf discusses his new book, emphasizing that he's not technically an author until its release tomorrow, but Joe holds a signed copy. Joe notes Andy had more involvement in the book than he thinks. Andy credits supporters and associates, comparing it to life's collaborative nature: success depends on who you know, learn from, and associate with. No one is entirely responsible for their own life.
I can't suffer being in the presence of somebody who thinks that they had every idea and every right decision was theirs.
Andy views his life as defined by mistakes and idiotic decisions, shaped by family, upbringing, and current circle. Joe agrees everyone is a product of their influences; denying it is delusional. Exceptional people can't emerge from mediocrity—negative influences are contagious. While improbable, an exceptional person surrounded by poor company wouldn't reach full potential and would thrive more with exceptional peers. Joe has never seen such an example among exceptional people he knows, who all associate with other exceptional people. Joe Rogan's unique job exposes him to an incredibly diverse Venn diagram of influential people.
Joe points listeners to JRE #1 as a masterpiece, though others call it terrible, especially snowflakes. JRE #1 was a laptop video; now Joe sits with the most influential people on Earth. Joe never planned it—planning might have made him too careful, less fun, and less attractive. Key to success: ignoring online talk, following interests and instincts. Books guests purely on instinct from suggestions and requests, filtered by a team member who knows his tastes (e.g., physicists on quantum research). Receives hundreds of daily requests, filtered down effectively. Andy admires Joe's ability to converse with experts; Joe prepares deeply for some (e.g., Brian Cox, reading books, watching lectures months ahead) but hangs out casually with others like Evan Hafer.
Evan Hafer (angry small French painter, ex-Green Beret) is one of Joe's favorite people, met at Montana Knife Company HQ grand opening. Evan suffers from alpha-gal syndrome from a tick bite, allergic to mammal meat (some fish/chicken possible). Now eats only eggs for protein—exhaustingly boring, just vegetables and eggs at dinner. Battled it for years; cleared it once, ate meat again, then it returned worse. Joe mocks him caringly as a close friend.
Joe asks Perplexity: Alpha-gal first emerged in US late 1980s, recognized as tick-related meat allergy early 2000s. 1989: clinicians in Georgia collected ~10 cases of delayed reactions to mammalian meat linked to tick bites, not widely recognized then. Thomas Platts-Mills identified tick origin ~2002-2007; first described in medical literature 2009, linking to IgE against alpha-gal.
Lyme disease has historical forms; solid evidence ties it to Plum Island bioweapons research on ticks near Lyme, Connecticut. Prevalence on East Coast is outrageous. Lifelong if unmanaged, but curable with quick antibiotics. Bite shows bullseye rash (red circle around bite, fades in days); early recognition allows cure depending on severity.
Evan has slimmed down (lost ~10 pounds, wore tight pants at MKC event).
Women wear impractical, expensive high heels for fashion ('ste' meaning style, per Joe's daughter), restricting steps <24 inches wide, slippery soles, heels sticking in grass. Joe calls it dumb; women look good without them—a hot chick in flip-flops is more approachable. Andy suggests unapproachable look filters for confident men willing to approach. Joe: hard pass, too much work, life too short. Shared wardrobes with wife would be efficient but problematic (e.g., hard-to-walk-in shoes). Cavemen wore minimal animal skins, loincloths, tarps.
Story of exceptional African marathon runners from Kenyan tribe with brutal rites: crawl naked through stinging nettles tunnel, beaten on ankles/knuckles, formic acid on genitals, then circumcised with sharp stick. Must remain stoic—no sounds, unflinching (mud mask cracks reveal twitches, labeling as coward 'kabet', stigmatized). Matthew Walker argues this builds pain tolerance, social pressure for endurance, advantage for running where pushing through pain is key. Distinguishes pain-embracing vs. Western pain-avoiding societies.
Andy: one event insufficient for true resilience; requires ongoing effort like marathon running. Joe jokes if that's what happened to 'your people,' you'd run fast to escape, but notes young age accustoms to discomfort baseline, building insane tolerance.
Ex-fighters/military endure brutal youth but later avoid discomfort, get fat, lazy, drink—still mentally beasts with big bellies. Laziness affects everyone, even special operations; discipline not lifelong without effort. Gravity pulls everyone to couch. Some recognize utility in resisting; true across occupations (e.g., half-assing doctors post-grind). Former SEALs avoid ice baths consensually.
Andy tolerates saunas (20 min sucky, last 5 brutal) but hates cold plunges emotionally—inner voice screams. Does them almost daily despite. Joe: first 10-15 seconds worst ('get me out of 34°F ice water'), then relaxes; post-plunge feels great. Women vaso-constrict faster, larger core temp drops (luteal phase, high progesterone); extreme cold (35-45°F) spikes sympathetic/cortisol, may disrupt menstrual/thyroid. Cautious for cramps, endometriosis, fibroids, HRT/contraception—consult clinician. Suzanne Soberg (Soberg principle, cited by Huberman): less muscle mass harder to heat. Huberman respected but hard to understand.
Drownproof book title shocks given SEAL roots in UDTs/Scouts/Raiders (pre-9/11: water-based ops/training). Recent 2024 Arabian Sea VBSS (visit board search seizure): SEAL peeled off ladder climbing vessel underway, swim buddy followed. Heads seen once, then gone—bodies never recovered (ongoing investigation).
Their bodies were never recovered, likely due to wearing negatively buoyant equipment that dragged them down, preventing activation of life jackets. Water doesn't care who you are or how much of a badass you are; it's one of the most gnarly environments on Earth. Every time swimming in the ocean, there's a feeling of thinking you can make it to shore but might not. Jumping off a boat a couple hundred yards from shore, you start swimming thinking you're fine, but then your heart races, breathing gets heavy, the distance feels long, and movement slow, leading to thoughts like 'what if I can't do this?'
Joe's friend Greg saved a woman caught in a rip tide on vacation; those currents pull people out never to be seen again. In northwestern Montana near Flathead Lake, the largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi, fed by glacially fed rivers from Glacier National Park with tons of snowfall, boating is huge in summer. Tourists from around the world visit, but every year people drown in these rivers due to lack of respect for even medium-moving water. They're not used to it and don't realize it'll kill them incredibly fast.
The water is so cold from glacier streams. Remy Warren rescued a lady from a capsized boat in a freezing cold river, seeing gear floating and her struggling while her partner died. He had moments thinking he wouldn't make it and would die trying to save her. When people are close to drowning, they try to use rescuers as a life raft, climbing all over them, resulting in two people gone instead of one. Water will eat your lunch.
Despite extensive water training, diving accidents and deaths occur in training about every 5 years, which sucks. Training must be so difficult that it gets people to the brink, directly reflecting the career's demands. Losing people in real-world execution would be worse without such dangerous training. Families suffer terribly, but lowering standards is dangerous. No fairness in that job; bullets don't change trajectory for equity.
The ocean gives no fucks. War requires the most from anyone—life or death, taking life—so special operations standards must be the most stringent, weeding out all quit. Only way is to make a bunch of people quit. Policymakers lowering standards often lack direct impact on training or job execution. Military is bureaucratic, even at JSOC level with paperwork like collecting receipts for travel claims after missions.
Equipment like night vision, weapons, ordnance, ammunition is serialized; you're responsible, with paperwork for issuance. Losing gear happens but repeated losses like night vision goggles weekly could be a problem. In small isolated units, you maintain paperwork even in the middle of nowhere. DoD has never passed an audit; Pentagon has failed for years, only Marine Corps has passed a legitimate audit. They're tightened up.
Failing audits without punishment opens doors to issues. Defense Department is the only one of 24 major federal agencies never to pass a full financial audit, ongoing since 2018. Pentagon aims for clean audit by 2028 fiscal year, contingent on fixing accounting problems. Imagine IRS giving that leeway while taking your money and increasing budget.
Current world events might require tabulating expended inventory. Ordnance sits around; there's argument to expend it before it goes bad. Rifle ammunition stockpiles burned because sitting too long makes it ineffective, or because issued ammo had to be expended, not returned.
Carl Gustaf weapon: shooting too many separates lung lining; manual warns around six rounds. In training, five guys get a pallet of ammo and must shoot it all, cracking off rounds until nose bleeds. Same with law rockets or M60 ammo—shoot thousands of rounds because issued.
Video of Carl G firing: two-man evolution, massive recoilless projectile with huge back blast. Can set warhead to air burst for hide-and-seek behind walls. Argument for robot dogs to fire it, avoiding lung damage, though reloading needed—possible with robot arms.
If not shooting, blow in place: pile ammo, layer explosives, light on fire. Ammo outside gun chamber explodes in place like popcorn, not directed like in barrel. Not safe to stand near, but sounds like popcorn from a distance.
Insanely wasteful; should save excess ordnance for future. Budgets: if you don't meet it, can't ask for same next year. Fiscal year October 1; September, bean counters push spending leftovers or lose it. As supply rep, ordered $100,000 in shoes in three hours; REI happy to take it. Never saw punishment tested, but assumption led to spending.
Missions vary by terrain: lighter all-purpose shoes favored over high leather mountain boots. Have a wardrobe—looking good is second to being good; matching top and bottom required for professionalism. Tool for every job: mountains in northeastern Afghanistan need different shoes than urban Iraq (lightest like Speedcross, last two months, bring extras). Water-passing footwear like Salomon Speedcross; soles don't last long.
Cold weather gear, desert gear; coldest in desert at high altitude due to temperature swings, colder than mountains. Before deployment, lay out two tables: desert, woodland, cold weather layering, shoes, load-bearing equipment, pack for what comes.
JSOC has flexibility to source best tools from outside vendors like REI, unlike conventional teams limited to issue gear.
Kandahar giant story: 12-foot giant engaged US troops in remote Kandahar, Afghanistan, shot and killed, helicoptered out. Tim Alberino on Jesse Michels podcast retold from people he talked to; one blurry face-covered witness. Want it true but need actual evidence, not 'know a guy who was there.' Same with aliens.
Logic kicks in at Bigfoot: know too many woods guys, millions of game cameras left behind. Could buy in 1960s before drones/satellites, but now no. Bodies hard to find—never seen mountain lion or bear skeletons despite tons around; hunted mountains many times. Small primate population burying dead with language not inconceivable.
Real evidence: Gigantopithecus, 8-foot-plus bipedal hominid in orangutan family in Asia. Giant woolly mammoths, giant sloths existed; giant primate not inconceivable. Size relative—compared to giraffe, our idea of big shifts.
Discussion on the possibility of massive creatures like giant apes or gorillas existing in lush tropical environments with abundant resources. Something could grow way bigger than a gorilla. For such a thing to exist today is unlikely. Reference to an image or depiction of what it used to look like, suggesting ancient myths are based on real bipedal creatures, inferred from jaw structure.
Question: Why don't we bury people vertically to save space and maximize square footage? It would provide a lot more space. Challenges include digging a six-foot deep hole for tall people, easier historically to roll a laid-down body into a shallow hole. Today, with technology like oil drills, it's feasible. Cemeteries have fences limiting space utilization.
Gravity is cited as an issue, but once in the coffin, it doesn't matter. Families might not like the idea of the body compressing at the bottom. Suggestion to slide or drop the coffin vertically.
Embalming is mandatory in some places but often unnecessary; it's a racket exploiting grieving families. Funeral homes upsell fancy coffins and services. Joey Diaz's friend who ran a funeral home confirmed it's all a scam. Natural burials (green burials: simple shroud, no vault, minimal disturbance) are legal in all 50 states if complying with local rules, regulated by state, city, county zoning—no federal rule on body position (horizontal vs. vertical). Distance from water sources is a concern to prevent rotting contamination, though dead animals like cows or coyotes rot naturally.
Most gnarly funeral: Tibetan sky burial where bodies are chopped into chunks for vultures. Vultures gather anticipating it. Tradition views it as natural cycling back into the ecosystem—humans are the only animals that opt out by embalming with chemicals, poisoning the body, preventing natural deterioration into soil that feeds animals.
For direct cremation (no public viewing), embalming is unnecessary and not legally required in most states; body refrigerated. Many funeral homes require it for open casket or public viewing, or for transport (airlines, long delays). FTC: embalming necessary only for certain arrangements like public viewing, based on funeral home standards, not law. Anecdote: Childhood memory of smelling a rotting body in apartment building—unique human decomposition smell, grosser than animals.
Funeral homes allegedly mix random ashes into urns, not necessarily the family member's—"It's grandma forever," but it's not. Joey Diaz's friend confirmed the scam.
Sam Kinison bit about homosexual necrophiliacs paying for fresh male corpses. Real cases exist of people caught with freshly dead bodies, including hot girls. Humans include gross, evil people. Oncologist arrested for giving chemotherapy to non-cancer patients for profit.
Friend in 40s, fit, got aggressive cancer post-vaccination, went into remission after first chemo round with Gary Brecka's help, but chemo sores made brushing teeth painful. Cancer returned a year and a half to two years later; died six months after. Mom survived cervical cancer, but lung metastasis led to chemo so horrible she chose hospice over treatment.
SV40 (Simian Virus 40) found in some mRNA vaccine batches—legacy from monkey kidney cells used in vaccine production. Linked to turbo cancer cases post-vaccine, ignored inconvenient fact by pharma. Not all batches contaminated; individual reactions vary. Not a global depopulation conspiracy, but pharma made enormous money during COVID.
Bill Gates quoted on reducing population through vaccines. Real example: DTP (diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis) vaccine in Africa laced with hCG (endocrine disruptor) rendering women infertile under guise of tetanus vaccination—experimentation in low-oversight areas.
First podcast post-LA lockdown; drove to San Diego in 17 minutes, ghost town. Essential businesses like fast food stayed open, media too. Health department enforced masks, 6-foot distancing; adapted studio setup. All protocols later proven unnecessary.
Gaslighting about people/children dropping like flies—most deaths had 4+ comorbidities (75% of total). Kids who died had pre-existing conditions. Media ignored vaccine injuries due to pharma ad revenue controlling criticism (e.g., Fox, NBC, CBS). Not anti-pharma, but corporations prioritize shareholder profits over people—$1,000/pill drugs, unnecessary chemo.
Entrenched in politics via money. Extreme suggestion: torture corrupt doctors with hammers. AI god referenced hyperbolically as solution. Critique of money in politics: billionaires endlessly pursuing more wealth are sick.
Some people always aim for higher dollar figures. Brian Ken's friend is worth $3 billion but feels poor compared to his $80 billion friend. Imagine feeling insecure with $3 billion—eating ramen and mac and cheese from the microwave. Joe feels poor around Elon Musk, who's worth around $800 billion on paper, close to a trillion. California taxes would siphon it off for homeless programs, which they say need just a bit more money like a wealth tax.
Andy is glad he left California after almost six years in Texas. He's been in Montana since 2009 and can't think of a reason to leave—it's amazing with fewer people (1.1 million in the state, equivalent to Austin proper plus surroundings). Montana had a net population decrease last year as Yellowstone influx left after harsh winters or remote work ended. Electric cars struggle in -30°F, range dropping from 200 miles to 30. Locally, one Cybertruck owner runs a Thai restaurant, possibly with nail salons—maybe money laundering. EVs great when warm but battery life tanks in cold; blizzards stranded EV drivers on highways while gas/diesel idles 24 hours for heat.
Joe likes EV concept, drove a Tesla Model S today—it's a time machine with insane silent acceleration to 90 mph instantly. His is modified by Unplugged Performance: widened track, robust suspension, carbon fiber fenders, better brakes and handling, same 1000 horsepower. Andy prefers his 1000-horsepower Hennessey F150 Raptor; supercharger whine is audible on speakerphone. Pricey, but capability like 0-60 under 2 seconds in a four-door sedan is nuts—some shouldn't drive such power.
Concealed carry requires range training and demonstration in Texas (constitutional carry state, but license gives reciprocity in Florida, Nevada). No such proof needed for buying a 1000-hp Corvette ZR1— just show you can pay and have a driver's license. Risk of crashing into telephone poles; videos of LA street takeovers with gunshots, cars circling, no cops until shooting starts. Chaos needs dense populations; LA releases criminals without cash bail. Former gang member leaving due to 70,000 prison releases—too dangerous even for him.
California seems designed for destruction: release prisoners, overregulate. Can't buy flavored Alps nicotine pouches (wintergreen, Tucker Carlson's brand) because illegal. Joe deals them to dads like Daniel Cormier who smuggle from Texas. At Tucker launch in Tennessee (Dave Ramsey's barn), Tucker spoke from a chair; Mel Gibson attended. Andy felt out of place among celebrities, retreated with cheese.
Mel Gibson is normal, easy to talk to, no airs. Andy avoids big social scenes, prefers Montana's 1.1 million. At Joe's San Diego Performance Archery event, Joe took 30 minutes to reach bathroom amid fans. Joe appreciates fans, treats each meeting as unique, better than hate. UFC events tough—navigating crowds between commentary, high-fiving but can't stop for pictures or swarms.
At UFC 300, watched from back projection, heard Gachi knockout reaction first—insane. Better on couch or with headsets. Pre-jiu-jitsu, frustrated by cage/grappling; now as black belt, embarrassed—don't let opponent earn position, stay off cage/ground, especially sweaty. Hard to take down and hold skilled opponents. Prefer UFC pay-per-view over Paramount due to commercials/streaming issues; should offer ad-free premium.
Montana has Starlink—Andy one of first, works fantastic (portable book-sized used in Utah cabins). Life-changing for FaceTime, but sometimes leave it to enjoy nature. Elk hunting exhausting, no phone time, but signal drops in woods—perfect disconnection. Last year, Andy wounded an elk with rifle (worst feeling, searched 2.5 days); waits year for next chance. Self-deprecating as Navy SEAL sniper with most confirmed misses from rushed trigger pulls.
Rifle hunting after training with 15-year-old and black belts; relaxed too much on armbar, shoulder cavitated (partial pec tear, drawing arm black and blue)—nothing gentle about jiu-jitsu. Injuries common: artificial discs, multiple knee surgeries (Andy has three), torn/reconstructed shoulders, blown elbows. Andy wants to train again but knee issues; hard to find partners—not group classes, everyone targets him. Trained open mats always for real progress against aggressive opponents like 210-lb 25-year-old wrestlers. Started at 41, offended by kids trained longer with superior mat-developed movement.
Joe started martial arts young, body matured flexible/fast; wonders if late starters match. Started jiu-jitsu at 30, wishes earlier—kids have innate scrambles/transitions. Andy avoided early enthusiasm (questionably gay vibe), started 1995-96 post-UFC 2 VHS from kickboxing gym. UFC proved grappling best vs striking debates, like Jean-Claude Van Damme movies. First commentated UFC 12 (1997, age 30). Trained at Carlson Gracies with Vitor Belfort, Murilo Bustamante; stumbled there after mistaking for Helio Gracie's, closer to Comedy Store. Extreme Fighting had Carlson guys like Mario Sperry, Igor Vovchanchyn.
Arrived at the perfect time right before Vitor Belfort made his UFC debut at UFC 12, which was commentated. Trained at the same school as Vitor, knew what to expect. Others didn't know what he was doing; thought he was just a jiu-jitsu guy, but he had lightning hands. Slimmer Vitor at 200 lb moved like a panther. Saw the sport emerging into something different. Initially, fighters knew judo or karate, no mixed martial arts knowledge. Hoist Gracie tapped everyone, leading to belief that jiu-jitsu was the way. At Carlson Gracie's, realized jiu-jitsu is kind of the way but need to account for striking like a professional boxer's hands.
Jiu-jitsu is awesome. It's not complete.
You can have a nice black belt and end up in an ambulance if you can't get through a striking range.
Many relied on the gi back then, before Abu Dhabi Combat Club, which paid grapplers to compete no-gi. Many didn't know what to do without grabbing sleeves, collars, pants. Jean Jacques Machado, born with one hand (just a thumb on left hand due to birth defect), developed game around overhooks, underhooks, gable grips, not collars. Dominated Abu Dhabi, opening door to Eddie Bravo, who learned from Jean Jacques and based style on no-gi grips.
Don't rely on the gi because you don't always have the gi. Good tool if available, like fighting a judo guy in a winter coat.
Not optimal for how your head's going to feel when it hits the concrete.
Advice received early on as white belt: whether gi or no-gi, focus on taking no-gi grips.
The only gi technique I really love is the clock choke. Deep grip on collar, funnel left arm underneath and spin. Instant death.
Cross collar choke also great, available for more areas, nasty. Gi techniques super effective with clothes; t-shirts durable for choking. Henner video: closed guard, grabs shirt bottom, pulls up, wraps around like a garrote, horrible especially with strong shirt like flannel.
Jean Jacques's style: use no-gi grips even with gi, concentrated on defense since couldn't pull out easily. Never felt lost in no-gi. Trained at both Eddie Bravo and Jean Jacques places; got black belt from Eddie first, then Jean Jacques right after. Beautiful relationship between Eddie (Jean Jacques student) and Jean Jacques, no feeling of being a traitor or crunch.
If had time machine: buy Bitcoin, get into jiu-jitsu earlier. Got black belt in five and a half years, impressive and quick. Standard 10-year window for 1-2 hours/day or twice a week. Trained 10 times a week as long as wanted, math works out, but hard on 40-year-old body. Vitamin I (ibuprofen) used, terrible for gut.
Previous job taught how to learn, rewards coachability.
How to be a good student: Do what your instructor says and nothing more. If they say put your hand here, just do it.
Internet great but disrespectful to show Instagram technique while coach teaches. To accelerate learning: focus on what coach says only until mastered.
Listen and never question. Unless bad coach, get a good coach.
In this era, many choices. Jean Jacques detail-oriented, higher level than previous schools like Hixon's or Carlson's (which closed quickly). Started taekwondo as child at elite Jon Kim Taekwondo Institute in Boston with multiple national champions; ingrained listening without questioning, doing exactly right develops technique.
Mastery of fundamentals essential; upon black belt, realized don't know much about jiu-jitsu. Elite like Hickson Gracie honed fundamentals to razor edge: triangles, armbars, rear naked chokes to perfection. Stories of lining up black belts, telling them submission, catching each one despite watching.
Gordon Ryan wrote submission on paper, sealed in envelope for commentators to open after match. Caught opponents in predicted submissions like triangle multiple times.
Aggressive hobbyist, competed twice (white belt, purple belt) just to spend time with wife coaching. Not seeking violent confrontation; filled cup already. Does jiu-jitsu for community, can't master it, keeps brain and body young, addictive but led to injuries like numb fingers from fucked neck.
Neck issues from head and arm chokes, not tapping to neck cranks, not working neck enough. Iron Neck machine: halo on chest, pump up, chin strap, adjust tension, giant bungee cord ~50 lbs resistance. Swear by it, keeps neck strong, no problems now.
Regenicine (PRP platelet-rich plasma advanced): take blood, make inflammation-fighting fluid. Guys like Kobe Bryant, Peyton Manning went to Germany early on. Injected into neck, cured bulging discs and numbness.
Lower back problems from lack of tissue strength, mobility. Does rotation exercises, reverse hypers. Guys who only train jiu-jitsu get hurt; strength and mobility essential for longevity.
First couple years jiu-jitsu was workout itself. Done with barbells (no linear equally loaded object in real life outside gym). Zerchers great for grappling (barbell in elbow crook); could use sandbag. Goblet squats phenomenal, especially slant board knees-over-toes with 90 lb kettlebell, activates core.
Kettlebells best: rotational exercises like pick down one side, swing clean press other side; supine leg-up twists. Demolish self with single kettlebell. Travels with 50 lb in bowling bag. Hotel gyms have tiny 1.5 kg kettlebells.
Kettlebells good for wrists: forearm on bench, wrist curls at weird angle strengthens forearms/wrists. Turkish getups phenomenal for stability, core, body control.
Played with peptides. Two years ago hormones checked: low testosterone ~2 something, assumed life ending soon. Attributed to training volume (10x/week overtraining), previous job PED use. Started TRT two years ago, now dialing in, better recovery. Goal: healthiest lifespan, live to 80 doing awesome stuff over 90 in nursing home eating jello.
Smart training avoids catastrophic injuries for fitness into 60s/70s. Fill life with awesome experiences.
Stay out of flying squirrel suit (wingsuit). Broke world record ~18.2 miles. Done skydiving 16 years. In Switzerland, wingsuit flights playing tag with shadow on steep cliff. Sent videos causing anxiety.
Manages risk: immense time analyzing, mitigating. Worth enrichment, hasn't worn suit 5-6 years but tempted if told not to. Now not worth it without skydiving volume for currency. Base jumping no altimeter, 120 mph face first, camera one/two. Fun while happening, like Olympic skeleton. Closest to ground ~3 feet. Jumps like hiking hours in Switzerland, picture-storybook views like Kandahar giant home. Zip up nylon suit, check gear, rock forward to point of no return. First seconds freefall until airspeed, then right-hand turns.
Wingsuit flying near trains involves small sections where the angle is correct to connect briefly with the train before getting away. Survivors are not those flying 3 feet off the ground constantly; it's very short periods on jumps practiced many times, incrementally working closer. A mistake means impacting an object head first at 120 mph.
They discuss a scary video of a guy flying through a bridge. Andy flew over a beautiful grass field, about 10 feet off the ground, calling it the 'field of joy.' No Disneyland ride compares.
Conversation turns to jetpack wingsuits. A guy in trouble for flying one illegally; authorities tried to locate him. In Dubai, one innovator died due to an issue at low altitude and air speed where parachute deployment fails.
They watch video of a guy with micro jet engines on a wing suit, taking off from standing on the ground, going vertical, transitioning to flight. He has a skydiving parachute. Landing possibly with engines or parachute.
Jetpack racers are real with a league. Up to 56 mph, uses diesel or jet fuel/kerosene. Backpack provides majority thrust, hand units for stabilization/steering. No parachute; stay 50 feet off ground. Flights last 1-4 minutes, up to 5-10 if careful. Gravity Industries sells for about $440,000-$600,000 USD depending on configuration, 1050 horsepower like a ZR1 Corvette.
$2400 for a half-day experience. Joe saw one in Denver parking lot lasting 30 seconds; guy wore knee braces from blown ACLs. Military applications fringe despite videos in fatigues.
Andy was in southern Afghanistan near Kandahar, a relatively built-up city in high desert terrain with topography and caves. Kandahar giant stories stem from biblical tales and ancient civilizations mentioning red-haired giants. Native Americans had tales of fighting red-haired giants.
Theory: different human races like Homo sapiens survivors, others like 3-foot hairy 'hobbit people' from Flores Island with tools/weapons. Stories may nest greater messages/morals, like warrior societies creating threats. Purpose of hiding a real giant unclear—no military/national security reason.
UFO disclosure makes more sense: advanced tech. Hal Puthoff (physicist) consulted by Bush administration on pros/cons of disclosing crashed non-human vehicles and biological remains. All categories (government, religion) had more cons than pros; decided against.
Universe size makes it unlikely we're alone. Bigfoot unlikely due to camera traps; universe different. Disclosure could unite humanity against bigger issue, net calming effect long-term. Nations like US, Russia, China reverse-engineer for advantage (Bob Lazar/S4 story).
Bob Lazar telling same story since 1988. Credible witnesses describe aircraft exceeding human performance envelopes. Bill Thompson debunks videos via parallax, lens effects.
Bill Thompson's background, Spartan Forge app (20+ years targeting/intelligence for consumers/hunters): terrain analysis, foliage penetration, Lidar. Ethical—won't sell data/emails despite offers.
Andy has low-tactical operational experience, not strategic/operational war planning or defense policy meetings.
Operators were tasked with retrieving depleted uranium as part of a potential rescue. Multiple ships and crafts were involved. Discussion centered on an F-15 weapon systems officer who ejected during a CSAR (Combat Search and Rescue) operation, surging forward assets. Reference to Operation Ghost Murmur—a rumored technology to identify someone from a heartbeat 40 miles away using long-range quantum magnetometry with diamond-based sensors.
I want them to be able to identify somebody from a heartbeat from 40 miles away. If that technology existed and we're not using that on to help our own populace find people that are lost in the woods, we're a bunch of [] [].
PJs (Pararescue Jumpers) described as absolute badasses: great at plugging holes (medical expertise) after JSOC guys put holes in things. Two cargo aircraft brought in four MH-6 Little Birds, each fitting probably three guys (light on fuel), totaling 24 operators, some PJs. Daytime insertion into a hardened facility is high-risk, especially in full protective gear for depleted uranium retrieval, moving slowly. Geographically proximal to suspected uranium site, but likely a rescue of the WSO.
Little Birds lacked fuel capacity to cross required distance, got stuck in sand, so detonated in place (blow it or bip it). Disclosed losses: four MH-6s, two cargo aircraft (possibly C-130s), potential Predator/Reaper drone shot down, A-10s damaged, plus the F-15.
Military accepts immense risk in hostage rescues (e.g., Jessica Lynch rescue, outnumbered but proceeded) and CSAR, even daytime without night vision advantage, leveling the technological playing field.
Official story (F-15 rescue) more plausible than alternatives. Ghost Murmur originated as a Twitter story, spread by New York Post (claiming President Trump said CIA's secret tool rescued downed airman in Iran; physicists debate heartbeat detection). Iran claimed U.S. tried snatching uranium, foiled them. Challenges: distinguishing target heartbeat from animals/mammals without prior EKG/HRV on file.
Separating the [__] in the modern era is more like an art form than a science.
Government can lie, use propaganda/misinformation for national security; public won't know operational details. Preference for transparency: "This is what we can tell you; beyond this is national security."
Quantum magnetometry with diamond sensors likely real, tested on mice. WiFi can map 3D objects in motion inside a house; radar/sonar evolutions enable location tracking. Tactically vital, but enemies will eventually acquire, requiring tactical evolution.
Quantum computers solve equations in minutes that would take the entire universe (every atom as supercomputer) until heat death. Google's Willow quantum chip (Dec 2024 blog): solved task in minutes vs. 10^25 years for classical supercomputer, longer than universe's age. Hartmut Neven (Google Quantum AI) suggests borrowing power from parallel universes, aligning with David Deutsch's many-worlds interpretation—evidence of multiverse.
I understand every word that you just used, but I don't understand what that means and what it is capable of.
Reference to Doctor Strange and Spider-Man multiverse depictions. Need experts like Bill to explain without five-hour tangent.
Andy Stumpf's book Drown Proof written in normal language, no multisyllabic words. Blurbs from Jaco, Jack Carr, Joe Rogan. Inscription notes Rogan's impact on Stumpf's post-military life via introduction through Tate Fletcher; mutual enrichment—Stumpf's appearances improved the show. Promise to positively impact the world. Rogan narrates the forward; Stumpf read the audiobook, praises voice actors. Book out now.
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