Joe Rogan Experience #2519 - Scott Eastwood
In a Nutshell
Scott Eastwood and Joe Rogan discuss the collapse of Western cultural cohesion through unchecked mass migration, Sharia-driven city takeovers, and elite policies that prioritize division over security. They emphasize that personal discipline, real food, and staying engaged in meaningful work are the only reliable paths to health and sanity amid widespread societal breakdown. Both stress that civilization is fragile, that human capacity for evil remains undiminished, and that individuals must reject victimhood and focus on the path of self-improvement rather than results or comfort.
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Scott Eastwood is heavily involved in ownership of North Performance, a supplement company founded by Dr. Massi, a Stanford doctor. The product is a single daily satchel containing 70+ vitamins including amino acids, creatine, and MNM, designed for people who want to excel in training. The company sources ingredients from Japan, America, and Switzerland. It's subscription-based with monthly delivery. The product is third-party tested. Eastwood's wealthy friend started the company for his own use as a 55-year-old adventure athlete who wanted the best supplements regardless of cost.
Eastwood cycles supplements in and out. His non-negotiables are fish oil, vitamin D, NMN or NAD, and glutathione. His father was a big glutathione advocate. Rogan discusses liposomal glutathione being more bioavailable.
Rogan criticizes doctors who claim a balanced diet is sufficient and that excess vitamins are just peed out. He notes many doctors don't understand optimization beyond USDA requirements. Rogan recommends working with wellness clinics like Ways to Well that analyze blood work and create custom vitamin formulations.
Eastwood mentions considering blood type testing to determine optimal diet. Rogan notes this might be voodoo but acknowledges ancestral dietary patterns could influence optimal nutrition. Examples include societies without alcohol history having difficulty metabolizing it, and populations with meat-heavy ancestral diets potentially thriving on similar diets.
Blue zone populations follow Mediterranean-style diets with variety including fish, red meat, and wine. The key factor is eating real food rather than processed products. Rogan emphasizes that most American diet is garbage and actually harmful, contrasting a grilled chicken, avocado, and salad meal with Jack in the Box fast food.
Both Rogan and Eastwood report feeling better eating in Europe despite similar healthy eating habits. The difference is attributed to American food processing. Danny Dore's explanation covers how American bread processing removes bran and germ for shelf stability, enriches with folic acid many can't metabolize, bleaches with chlorine gas, adds carcinogenic potassium bromate, and uses glyphosate before harvest. This causes endocrine disruption, gut damage, bloating, brain fog, and fatigue. The real issue is ultra-processed, chemically altered wheat rather than gluten itself.
Eastwood visited cheese factories in Italy where 4-6 hour morning processing removes lactose. Rogan recounts buying a house from a French doctor in California in 2003 who smuggled raw cheese because it was illegal to import due to unpasteurized biology. Raw milk contains enzymes, calcium, protein, and milk fat. Pasteurized homogenized milk can sit on shelves for months while raw milk spoils in days.
Food companies built businesses on shelf-stable products with chemical preservatives. When RFK Jr. pushed to stop using dyes in children's cereals, companies argued it would ruin their business model, though they already produce dye-free versions for Canada. Companies hire lobbyists and place allies in FDA and regulatory organizations to maintain their processes.
Rogan and Eastwood discuss how culture war issues serve to divide people and prevent unified action against those in power. Rogan notes that when Clinton's Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, bombing campaigns followed as distraction. Politicians pretend to care about issues like homelessness and healthcare while many are sociopaths focused on their careers. Wealthy people get distracted by trans issues instead of focusing on substantive matters.
The two-party system creates illusion of choice between good guys and bad guys. On the right, people advocating Second Amendment rights get lumped with Christian nationalists and white nationalists. On the left, acceptance of certain positions like trans women competing in women's sports is required. Rogan notes the movement away from allowing trans women in competitive athletics after multiple championships. Psychopathic perverts who prey on women have always existed, and bathroom policies created opportunities for them to exploit.
Joe Rogan suggests hunting real perverts and child molesters, stating he would lose zero sleep over it. The conversation turns to the trend in academic circles labeling pedophiles as "minor attracted persons," which Rogan sees as empathy falling into chaos. He points to the UK rape gangs situation where authorities ignored crimes to avoid being labeled racist or Islamophobic.
Scott Eastwood agrees this represents a breakdown of culture due to extreme groups, and that it can happen anywhere including America. Rogan emphasizes that America's strength lies in being a true melting pot where people can practice any religion without persecution.
The discussion covers Dearborn, Michigan, where liberal residents supported a Muslim mayor who then banned pride flags and pushed toward Sharia law. Rogan notes that a significant portion of practicing Muslims worldwide would prefer Sharia law, which is their religion, but the problem is it cannot be pushed on others. He stresses that when cultures take over and impose values that grossly deteriorate women's rights, society falls apart completely.
Eastwood notes that traditional head garbs and body coverings represent their accepted culture, but the system flaw is allowing takeovers of towns or cities. Every city should maintain the same national rights regarding clothing, religion, and freedom from persecution.
Rogan criticizes England's mass migration policies that ignore resulting chaos. He questions whether authorities want society to deteriorate so they can implement new laws for protection, leading to mass surveillance, more police, and more arrests. He notes England arrests people for social media posts more than Russia and China combined.
Eastwood observes the grab for power happening in plain sight. Rogan points out England lacks the Second Amendment, so when things go wrong, citizens have limited options beyond using shovels or grandpa's bird gun.
Eastwood praises Rogan's platform for examining different people and subjects, creating an encyclopedia of knowledge. He notes ChatGPT can reference Rogan's two-hour podcasts with experts on various topics, making information more accessible than traditional reading.
Rogan responds that while stimulation is good, schools should teach people to think correctly from a young age rather than just providing information. He advocates giving students things that excite them and showing why being interested benefits them.
Eastwood reveals he turned 40 in March and took the year off after working nonstop for 20 years. Rather than gaining perspective, he became more depressed, reinforcing that staying busy doing what you love is essential. Rogan emphasizes that doing what you love is a gift, whether beekeeping, carpentry, or any pursuit.
Both stress the importance of being creators rather than takers. Rogan references hearing that creators are exponentially happier because they give society something it didn't have before. Eastwood notes that people like tasks and feeling good about accomplishments.
Rogan argues schools force history and math down students' throats without giving tools to be excited about learning. He believes showing cool things helps people realize learning is interesting, allowing them to get good at pursuits rather than feeling like cogs in the wheel.
Many people feel the economy sucks, get jobs they hate, come home to play video games, and by 35 don't know what they're doing. This stems from never being instructed how to think about things or find genuine interests.
Eastwood discusses his grind in acting, where despite being Clint Eastwood's son, he had to prove himself over years of hustling. Rogan notes comedians say it takes 10 years to become a real comic. They discuss the 10,000 hour rule, acknowledging there's value in repetition, but intention matters as much as time spent.
Using jiu-jitsu as an example, Rogan explains you get better the more you do it, but 1,000% more if you drill correctly with mastery of fundamentals like leverage points and technique timing. It's about enthusiasm and willingness to look at things objectively rather than just putting in hours.
Rogan notes ego holds people back in jiu-jitsu because they don't want to get tapped or humiliated, so they keep a tight game and never grow. Knowing how long it takes to reach black belt can discourage people from starting.
Eastwood observes that jiu-jitsu strips ego and reveals there are always 1,000 more guys above your level who can choke you out. Working for UFC means constantly being around people who can kill you, with levels upon levels above them. This keeps people humble and prevents delusion.
Rogan emphasizes that young people must get interested in the path, not just results. The path is where growth happens. Success will come if you keep getting better every day, but managing success comes after. The most important thing should always be the path.
Rogan argues that quick-money culture means morals and codes aren't taught enough to young people. When you make a promise, complete it. The sue-happy culture teaches terrible behavior to youth. Eastwood shares his father's teaching that your word is all you have in life.
Eastwood mentions his father was mayor of Carmel and realized politics weren't for him. Rogan suggests Clint Eastwood would have been a fun president. They discuss how acting skills benefit political roles, noting Josh Brolin could be president with his voice and presence.
Rogan proposes making presidential candidates take 7 grams of mushrooms in a dark room with infrared cameras to see how they handle the experience. He believes many would benefit from psychedelics to realize there's more to the world than what they see.
Eastwood describes his 5-MeO experience as life-changing, feeling like he died and then seeing the world for the first time again. He cried for 45 minutes afterward, overwhelmed by the experience. Rogan explains that 5-MeO shatters the ego completely, creating a feeling of being part of everything in the universe with no particular destination.
Eastwood notes prominent right-wing people who did psychedelics completely changed their lives, becoming different people. The experience reveals everything is connected molecules with no space between anything, just a giant soup of energy and vibration.
Rogan observes that psychedelics have become more accepted to discuss, with successful business people openly talking about them. When he was young, mentioning magic mushrooms meant you were considered a fool wanting to see things that weren't there. Now it's commonly discussed as a way to expand consciousness and enrich life experience.
He credits the internet for this shift, noting articles in the early 2000s and Terence McKenna's discussions about DMT, LSD, and other psychedelics. YouTube and podcasts spread information from respected figures like Michael Pollan, whose book "Change Your Mind" made rational, educated people free to discuss psychedelics openly.
Eastwood asks if alcohol lobbyists suppressed weed and psychedelics. Rogan confirms the alcohol lobby has interests against marijuana legalization because legal marijuana causes measurable diminished alcohol intake, costing them money. He also mentions prison lobbies and prison guards unions that lobby to keep marijuana laws on the books to maintain their business of keeping people in cages.
The private prison industry actively lobbies to increase incarceration rates, which creates a perverse incentive structure where companies profit from locking people up. This is particularly concerning for nonviolent crimes like marijuana possession, which most Americans do not believe should be illegal.
According to a recent Gallup poll, 70% of Americans believe marijuana should be legalized. When including people who support either medical or recreational legalization, the number rises to 88-89% of US adults, with only 11% wanting it to be completely illegal.
Legalizing all drugs presents a difficult argument because some people would likely use substances like heroin, fentanyl, and meth that they otherwise would not. However, the current prohibition system empowers drug cartels and organized crime. A multi-billion or potentially trillion-dollar industry operates across the Mexican border, and prohibition funnels profits to criminals rather than allowing regulation and taxation.
Joe Rogan finds marijuana makes him paranoid and scared about things outside his control. He enjoys the perspective shift that comes after the fear subsides, comparing it to Joey Diaz's advice to "go meet the devil" - the temporary freak-out provides clarity once it passes. However, he acknowledges that marijuana is particularly dangerous for brain development in young people, especially regarding schizophrenia risk.
Regular marijuana use before the frontal cortex is fully developed is harmful to brain development. Getting high regularly at age 14 will negatively impact cognitive function. The same applies to alcohol - getting drunk multiple times per week at ages 14-15 damages brain development. Even if someone maintains high intelligence despite heavy use, their brain would have functioned better without it.
European culture tends to introduce alcohol gradually in family settings, with children having a glass of wine at ages 11-12. This approach treats alcohol as less forbidden and potentially reduces rebellious overconsumption compared to rigid prohibition messaging.
Even with an age restriction like 25, legalization would likely increase drug use among people unhappy with their lives who could then purchase substances at stores. However, the alternative of prohibition empowers criminal organizations. Legalization would allow quality control, ensure products contain what they claim, and redirect profits toward rehabilitation and treatment rather than cartels.
Alcohol is legal and some people become alcoholics despite its availability, leading to health problems like liver damage. This demonstrates that legalization does not eliminate addiction problems but allows regulation. The same pattern would likely emerge with other drugs - some people would abstain entirely while others would struggle with addiction.
MDMA is being studied for couples therapy and particularly for treating PTSD in soldiers through MAPS research. The drug creates empathy and compassion that helps people process difficult experiences. The claim that MDMA creates "holes in the brain" originated from anti-drug campaigns using dramatic brain scan images that actually showed reduced activity or binding markers rather than literal physical gaps. High or repeated doses can damage serotonin neurons and alter brain signaling.
Moderation applies to everything - less is more. While agreeing with much of Dr. Paul Saladino's carnivore diet advice, Rogan disagrees with complete alcohol abstinence, noting that a glass of wine and laughing with friends has social value. Balance prevents extremes where someone becomes either overly social or unable to enjoy life.
Loneliness kills people faster than smoking cigarettes. Social connection through moderate drinking with friends - laughing and bonding - provides health benefits. The negative effects of occasional drinking can be mitigated with electrolytes, hydration, and sauna use, though it should not be done daily.
Dave Chappelle uses vitamin IVs with glutathione after shows to counteract alcohol effects. This approach acknowledges the reality of occasional heavy drinking while actively managing its consequences rather than pretending it does not happen.
Balance requires both discipline and the ability to occasionally cut loose. Non-negotiables include nutrition and exercise. Everything else can be flexible. Working out provides mental benefits beyond physical health - a hard workout day makes someone more easygoing and mentally free.
Both Rogan and Eastwood have ADHD, which Eastwood views as a superpower. People with ADHD often fixate intensely on interesting subjects for extended periods while struggling with less engaging tasks. The condition involves being scatterbrained with uninteresting activities but capable of 12-hour focus on compelling subjects.
Eastwood is dyslexic and describes his reading difficulty as his brain jumping around text rather than reading linearly. He needs intense focus to maintain rhythm while reading. Without focus, he becomes tired and frustrated. Schools now provide accommodations like extended test time and reading support that did not exist when he was younger.
There is emerging discussion about a link between ADHD symptoms and histamine levels. Some people combine Zyrtec and Pepcid AC to block histamine receptors, claiming this reduces ADHD symptoms. However, true ADHD involves the ability to hyperfocus on interesting subjects while struggling with others, rather than simple distraction.
When pressure is applied, some people excel while others fold. Eastwood notes he tends to excel under pressure, which may explain his success in acting where emotional scenes require performing on demand in front of many people. The ability to focus and execute under pressure is a critical skill that people who avoid discomfort never develop.
Eastwood's upcoming World War II movie "Lucky Strike" highlights how that generation faced genuine life-or-death stakes, with families listening to radio broadcasts unsure of the outcome. This created a different breed of people who experienced real pressure that modern society largely lacks.
The term "toxic masculinity" conflates criminal behavior - beating, robbing, raping - with normal masculine behavior. Masculine behavior involves being protective, getting things done, providing for family, and being reliable in emergencies. Strong people benefit society, and strength needs proper channeling rather than being labeled inherently bad.
Martial arts training benefits the brain, confidence, and humility while teaching vulnerability. Many people remain delusional about their fighting ability because they lack exposure to actual violence. Experiencing some danger and fear is beneficial for growth, and society currently overemphasizes comfort and sedation at the expense of mental health.
Pushing personal boundaries in the ocean leads to a profound sense of calm and clarity once the challenge is overcome. The experience of confronting fear creates a zen-like state and mental clarity. Scott Eastwood began surfing between the ages of 8 and 10. Early experiences involved waves that were intimidating, progressing to larger waves that created life-or-death situations when pushing limits.
Eastwood has seen sharks while surfing but never in a threatening close encounter. Experienced surfers develop an understanding of shark behavior through extensive time spent in the water. A video showed great white sharks stalking paddleboarders in what appeared to be northern California waters, with the individuals unaware of the sharks behind them. Eastwood suggested increased shark sightings may result from more cameras and drones rather than increased shark populations, though heightened shark activity has been documented in certain areas.
A story was shared about Tommy Woodward, who died in an alligator attack in Orange, Texas in 2015—the first such fatality in Texas since 1836. After drinking with friends at a marina, Woodward decided to swim in Adams Bayou despite warnings about a large alligator. His reported last words were "fuck that gator" before jumping in. He was killed almost immediately. The incident highlighted the danger of swimming in bayou waters known to contain alligators.
Eastwood participated in alligator hunting in the Florida Everglades at a ranch where alligators were abundant and easy to locate. Unlike hunting elk where tracking and glassing are required, alligators were visible in high numbers. This raised questions about how many more remained unseen. The experience created an unsettling awareness of the population density. Pythons were also discussed—occasionally seen crossing roads at lengths of 15 feet with girth comparable to a football player's thigh.
Eastwood expressed preference for being in the water with sharks over dealing with Florida's alligators and pythons, noting that in water one can see threats and potentially climb trees on land. However, he acknowledged that being in water limits mobility and escape options compared to having distance and a firearm on land. A tip for shark encounters involves touching or bopping the shark's nose as a deterrent, causing them to typically turn away. Flailing and screaming is discouraged—instead, the recommendation is to get underwater and strike the nose.
Bull sharks in Florida waters, particularly around the Keys, present ongoing issues for fishermen. Videos showed sharks destroying tuna catches before they could be retrieved from bridges using gaff systems. Bull sharks are considered more dangerous because they continue attacking rather than biting out of confusion like other species. They have been compared to pit bulls or chihuahuas in their persistence. Fishermen now target bull sharks to reduce local populations.
The inspiration for Jaws came from bull shark attacks in fresh water on a New Jersey river. Bull sharks are among the few shark species capable of surviving in fresh water. The 1916 Jersey Shore attacks killed four people and critically injured one during a summer heatwave and polio epidemic. Bull sharks have been found as far north as Illinois through river systems. The show River Monsters featured British biologist Jeremy Wade, who caught unusual fish and explored bull shark behavior in fresh water environments.
Eastwood's daughter developed an interest in Megalodons, leading to research and acquisition of a Megalodon tooth. Documentaries explored theories about whether Megalodons might still exist. The creature was described as a shark the size of a whale. Eastwood suggested being swallowed by a Megalodon while surfing would be a reasonable way to die compared to prolonged illness or suffering in old age, though acknowledged the instinct to survive remains powerful.
Discussion covered potential future medical advances including cellular reprogramming that could reverse aging at the cellular level. The philosophical question arose whether immortality would diminish life's value, noting that finiteness may be part of what makes life meaningful. Eastwood expressed uncertainty about wanting to live forever.
The film White Whale Fall starring Josh Brolin was discussed, involving a scuba diver swallowed by a whale. The plot centers on survival inside the whale's body with limited oxygen. Practical considerations included whether carrying a knife would allow cutting an exit through the whale's jaw or tongue, potentially causing the whale to expel the person. Concerns were raised about rib cages, blubber thickness, digestive acids, and whether sufficient time exists before oxygen runs out. The film is based on a New York Times bestselling novel.
A bowhead whale discovered in 2007 near Barrow, Alaska had a late 19th-century bomb lance harpoon embedded in its neck. The harpoon was patented in 1879 and manufactured in the late 1880s in New Bedford, Massachusetts. The whale survived over a century with the metal fragment lodged in thick blubber. This finding helped prove bowhead whales can live 100 to 200 years. The harpoon likely reached Alaska through trade routes involving trains and boats. Demand for whalebone corsets drove 19th-century whaling until corset fashions changed.
During filming of Flags of Our Fathers in Iceland approximately 20 years ago, Eastwood observed that whaling remains culturally accepted there as a means of survival given limited resources. Iceland has a fermented shark dish considered a delicacy that Anthony Bourdain described as the most disgusting thing he had ever eaten.
The process of using every part of a harvested whale is described as highly efficient, with all components utilized for various applications including hide. This complete harvesting approach makes people feel better knowing nothing goes to waste. Having a connection to a good ranch provides the best access to food, especially when the operation is ethical, grass-fed, and the animals are raised on pasture as intended.
The slaughter method at one particular ranch was notably gentle and respectful, operating with the philosophy that taking a life is part of existence since life eats life. The process was designed to be painless, executed quickly with a tool similar to the air-powered device from No Country for Old Men that delivers a projectile through the head to instantly shut off brain function before bleeding the animal out.
Javier Bardem's performance in No Country for Old Men stands out as potentially one of the single best performances in film history. The believability of his character, particularly in the coin-flip scene, creates genuine chills. His distinctive weird haircut and the darkness visible in his eyes contribute to the commitment to portraying a psychopath. Bardem excels at playing bad guys, with roles like his current Cape Fear character demonstrating his ability to make audiences uncomfortable even in trailers.
Robert De Niro's performance in the original Cape Fear is also referenced as a strong example of playing a menacing character.
Scott Eastwood discusses his experience playing bad guys, noting it was liberating and fun to act out impulses not normally allowed. The process involves thinking of dark or messed-up scenarios and reveling in that thinking to a limited extent. However, he doesn't love playing villains and wants to do it very selectively, making an exception for working with director Guy Ritchie, whom he considers one of the best directors ever.
In Wrath of Man, Eastwood had to portray evil while killing a character, and the transformation was visible enough that Rogan noted his face looked legitimately evil and different from his normal appearance. Eastwood describes the role as greedy and let that greed take over during performance, which he found somewhat scary.
Eastwood treats acting as a job rather than letting roles distort his mind. He references Daniel Day-Lewis as someone who commits deeply to characters. His father Clint Eastwood maintained strict boundaries, viewing acting as work that should be left at the door after putting in preparation and interesting choices.
Eastwood acknowledges that to fully embody a character like a greedy person, some evil or greedy thoughts must be manifested before scenes. The key is the ability to release those thoughts at the end of the day. He emphasizes not valuing a career too preciously, recognizing that storytelling is fun and grateful work but doesn't define him.
Jim Carrey reportedly struggled after playing Andy Kaufman, becoming so immersed that he remained in character constantly, requiring coworkers to tell him to stop. Jared Leto sent dead birds and rats to colleagues while preparing for the Joker role. Shia LaBeouf is mentioned as another example of an actor who goes deep into roles.
Eastwood believes getting famous too early can stunt personal growth. Working normal jobs like valet and barback helped him understand how the real world operates. He notes it's particularly problematic when child actors are pushed into fame, and he has never met one who came out completely normal, with Leonardo DiCaprio cited as an exception due to good people around him, discipline, and a grounded sense of the world.
DiCaprio is noted for frequently dating much younger women. Jodie Foster is mentioned as another child actor who appears well-adjusted. In contrast, Britney Spears and Corey Feldman represent cases where early fame appears to have caused lasting damage.
Macaulay Culkin appeared on the podcast and seemed like a nice, smart person but struggles with the realization that he was robbed of a normal childhood after becoming famous as a young child with Home Alone.
Eastwood credits his father for protecting him and his siblings from the industry by keeping them out of Los Angeles, raising them in Carmel to experience as normal a childhood as possible.
Carmel is described as beautiful but slow-paced, known as a place for newlyweds and nearly dead people where people get married and later retire. The area has strict homeowners associations that regulate fence colors, paint shades, and other details, which Eastwood finds annoying. Older residents tend to prefer living around other older people and enjoy controlling their neighborhoods.
California is praised as one of the most beautiful places on Earth with deserts, beaches, and mountains all contained in one state. During westward expansion, people were drawn to California by the gold rush and later by the movie industry in Los Angeles.
The film industry has largely left Los Angeles, with very few productions still filming there due to unfavorable conditions. Eastwood notes he has rarely worked on films shot primarily in Los Angeles. He lives nomadically, traveling between locations like Atlanta and Italy for work rather than maintaining a permanent residence in California.
Eastwood doesn't have many industry friends and finds actors often aren't his type of people. He avoids intellectualizing about acting and doesn't want it to define him. The constant attention and ego-stroking on sets can make people feel entitled and self-important.
Eastwood describes shocking behavior he's witnessed where famous actors believe the world owes them something and refuse to do the right thing. He recounts working on a film where significant money had been spent on pre-production when a director decided they no longer wanted to work with another person and refused to return the invested funds, despite the ethical obligation to do so.
Some people pursue stardom specifically to gain the ability to order people around and behave unpredictably. Eastwood states that people think they want fame, but being rich is preferable to being famous. The ugly side of fame became visible to him growing up with Clint Eastwood as a father who never bought into celebrity worship.
Eastwood hesitated about entering acting because of his father's fame but always loved storytelling and movies. He is now producing and wants to direct, appreciating the idea of showing up to work in his own clothes. Film is described as a director's medium where the real work happens in script development, shooting, and editing.
Eastwood has worked in creative producing capacities with some directing involvement but hasn't yet found the right material to direct independently. He doesn't write and finds sitting to write unappealing, preferring collaboration and discussion about material. He suggests working with a writing partner who can translate ideas to paper.
Guy Ritchie throws out the script on set and gives actors new lines and actions in real time based on what he's already shot and how he envisions the final film. This improvisational approach doesn't work for everyone, but Eastwood enjoys the spontaneity. Ritchie watches footage in a blacked-out trailer and radios adjustments to actors while shooting continues.
Clint Eastwood's approach is the opposite, preferring to capture a take and move on without additional takes unless necessary. Matt Damon recounted working with Clint where he wanted another take on a scene, but Clint declined, saying they already had it.
Ritchie's films like Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch are considered all-time favorites and established the benchmark for British crime drama.
Lee Murray was a UFC fighter and notorious street fighter in London known for being a gangster. He was stabbed in the heart during a street fight but returned to training six weeks later, hitting mitts on video. Murray participated in the largest armed robbery in UK history, stealing 53 million pounds, equivalent to 92 million dollars. The heist involved high-tech planning with full masks and body armor, comparable to the movie Heat. Murray was arrested and remains in jail, likely for life.
The largest peacetime cash robbery in world history occurred in 2006, worth 92 million dollars or 53 million pounds at the time. The perpetrators left over 150 million pounds behind because they ran out of room in their transport vehicles. Only about 21 million pounds of the stolen cash has ever been recovered, meaning somebody made away with more than 30 million pounds.
Lee Murray, a UFC fighter who Joe Rogan had called fights for, was involved. Murray and several associates fled to Morocco because he held dual British-Moroccan citizenship and Morocco did not have an extradition treaty with the UK. Moroccan police arrested Murray in June of 2006 in a shopping mall in Rabat following an international manhunt. Instead of being extradited, he was tried in Morocco and initially sentenced to 10 years. A Moroccan appeals court extended his sentence to 25 years in prison for his role in forming a criminal gang, kidnapping, and armed robbery.
When the story broke, everybody was saying it had to be a Guy Ritchie movie because he has locked down that genre. There was talk about Guy Ritchie doing a movie on the Lee Murray heist. Something came out as a mini-series about the crime, but Guy Ritchie did not make it. He instead did a true crime docu-series called Diamond Heist, which is a similar story but not the same. The story itself is so bananas because this world-class MMA fighter was also a high-level bank robber. Jason Statham could probably nail the role of Murray, even though he doesn't have the hair for it since Murray had a full head of hair.
There is security footage of the robbery where the perpetrators wore masks. It looks like a movie. When you think about that kind of guy and that kind of story, it is right up Guy Ritchie's alley. His show Mob Land is really good. It feels like a movie that is seven hours long.
Oliver Stone is a favorite director worked with. George Tillman Jr. is a great director known for Men of Honor with Cuba Gooding Jr. David Ayer is really interesting and had a really dark past. He lived on a submarine for two years underwater. Living underwater for two years will mess you up for 200 years because of the claustrophobia.
The OceanGate Titan submersible implosion is referenced, where the people were liquefied instantaneously by the pressure of the ocean. It might be better than a shark attack because it is quick, but people talk about you like you are an idiot for getting in that tin can, especially as a billionaire. James Cameron went to the bottom of the Mariana Trench by himself in a single-piloted submarine vehicle and holds the world record for the deepest depths.
There is no desire to go to Mars or space despite being a Musk fan. Being in Earth's orbit once to look down at the whole Earth would be cool. Astronauts talk about the overview effect where being above Earth looking down gives you the realization that we are so fragile and it is all just us together. You have to stop tribal conflicts and world wars because we keep repeating the same cycle. It is sad, actually, because eventually it will probably happen again.
It feels like a world war is kind of happening right now and it is very disturbing.
When playing a character in a period piece, you talk to a lot of people. For war movies, meeting veterans who have done 20 years of those films allows you to hear their stories and see the pain in their eyes when they tell them. You realize the gravity of what they are carrying and what they did for the world. There are so many heroes in World War II who did things that affect our way of life and the world's way of life. All of France and most of Europe is not speaking German because of what happened.
Colonel Herbert Irving Stern was met at the Washington Archives in D.C. He is 107 years old and one of the oldest living veterans. He was still quite clear-headed when he spoke. He was a battalion commander during World War II and was awarded the Silver Star Medal during the Battle of the Bulge for his actions. In April 1945, while driving through Germany, Stern and his men discovered a concentration camp with 3,000 Jewish women. They liberated the camp, provided immediate relief to the prisoners, and destroyed the facility. Stern told them they got it right with the movie, which brought tears because it felt like a great responsibility to tell that story.
Stern would have been about 20 years old in 1942, meaning the war happened 84 years ago when he was around 34 or 35. It is still probably the most impactful thing that ever happened in his life at 107 years old. His life is defined by something that happened 84 years ago.
During the war, information came from newspaper articles and radio broadcasts.
Playing these characters comes with a cost. You go through an emotional journey and pay a price. You have to lend your own emotion and grief and relive some of that to see what it would have been like to witness atrocities, lose your best friend beside you, and see a concentration camp full of women who were probably skin and bones. It makes you so grateful for what we have and where we are at.
The human's capacity for evil is disturbing because people are capable of doing things like that and they still are. To this day, somewhere in the world, there are human beings committing atrocities and killing people. It is brutal to think how savage we can become. We are not far off from savagery. Take water away for 72 hours and we are dead. Civilization is a very thin veneer that is very vulnerable.
Most people are delusional because they are very well fed and rested and do not have any idea how precarious the thing we exist in is. Doing a World War II film forces you to realize and encounter the reality of the human condition. Throughout history, defining moments are often the history of war and conquests, invasions and conquests. Most of what we talk about when we talk about history is the various wars and what happened, what the result was, who was the king, and who did what. It was over greed and resources.
World War II is fascinating because there is no ambiguity between right and wrong. What they were doing in Nazi Germany was terrifying because they were exterminating innocent people. The world came together as a coalition and fought that evil. That is very different than a war like Vietnam where you are questioning why we are there and whether it is just a politically motivated thing. World War II was to save people. It is considered the last great war and the last just war in most people's eyes because it needed to be done.
The Germans were on meth, which is really crazy. Norman Ohler wrote the book Blitzed about the Blitzkrieg when they went through Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Poland in three days. It was all meth. They gave them 35 million doses of meth. They gave the guys at the front of the lines and in the tanks the most meth. They wanted them messed up, just driving for three days killing everybody they saw. When they ran into the people in France, the French were all drinking wine and chilling while the Germans were messed up.
There were German Americans living in America who had a life here. When the war kicked off, thousands of them went back to Germany and fought for Germany. They became spies because a lot of them spoke English and had American culture. They understood things and became spies.
The people willing to give up on America to go back and fight for Germany represent a different kind of brainwashing. It makes you think about brainwashing nowadays and how strong the government is to brainwash people. The MK Ultra stuff is terrifying because you get a patsy or get someone to do something you want them to do, like kill somebody. If you find someone who is vulnerable, you can coax them slowly but surely into becoming a different person. You give them a purpose and a direction. They have done it before and did not stop doing it in the 1960s.
The guy who tried to shoot Trump was probably a product of that kind of manipulation. Someone talked that young kid into getting on that roof and trying to shoot Trump. Someone gave him direction. His background is too squeaky clean after the fact. They professionally scrubbed his apartment. There was no silverware in his apartment when they went to examine it. All of his hard drives were gone, all of his computers were gone. He had more than one cell phone, which is very odd for a 20-year-old kid, and had no social media profile.
The theories around the Charlie Kirk shooting include questions about how the guy was able to climb on top of that roof with a gun, dismantle it, put it back together again, then dismantle it again. There is footage of him with a backpack, but a backpack does not carry a gun. The excuse was that he dismantled the gun then reconnected it, but that does not work because anybody who knows anything about guns knows that taking the scope off, the barrel off, and the stock off means you have to put it all back together again and might not be on target anymore. You would have to sight that gun in and want targets to practice on. You are not just going to take a 140-yard shot not knowing if your sight is on.
A hunting story illustrates this: falling with a rifle required going back to the range to test it, and it was off by 6 inches at 100 yards just from the fall. On a block, you are not moving at all. All you are doing is pulling the trigger to make sure the gun is on. Taking the scope off and putting it back on and screwing it back together again gives no guarantee that the thing is going to be accurate. This kid is not a marksman and does not have a ton of experience shooting people at a distance.
The text messages between him and his boyfriend seem like they were AI made. There is also footage of him in a yogurt shop about 20 minutes later where the guy is just chilling at a frozen yogurt store, which seems weird. There are theories that some people around the shooting were signaling for the shot to happen at a certain time, but that seems like speculation because people move around all the time in crowds.
The actual wound itself is weird. A .30-06 is a big rifle round. To shoot a guy in the neck with a .30-06, you would expect an exit wound, but there is no exit wound. It just goes in and looks like a smaller hole. It does not look like the kind of hole expected from a large rifle round that you would shoot an elk with. Video footage from the back does not show an exit wound, so it just goes in his neck and stops.
The details about him being at a Dairy Queen are very weird. There is footage of him at a Dairy Queen, but they do not know which one, and the one they thought he was at closed down weirdly a couple weeks afterwards. After shooting Charlie Kirk, going to a Dairy Queen seems strange. It was supposedly before the shooting. There is an update as of June 12th from a hearing stating there has not been a plea entered yet. Prosecutors intend to seek the death penalty if Robinson is convicted. He has not yet entered a plea. It is crazy that this has not happened in September. It feels like they are keeping him in limbo. The prosecution went on public talking about the bullet fragment found and the defense is saying they should not have done that.
Tucker Carlson was just talking about it and thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk. A lot of people are saying that is ridiculous, and there are questions about how many people are getting paid by Israel to run cover versus how many are just saying Israel did it without real evidence. Kirk was critical of Israel in text messages and said he was going to get out of the Israel supporting business. There was also a long letter he wrote to Netanyahu expressing his support for Israel.
Nothing is 100% real these days, especially with major news stories involving anything significant. There's widespread distrust, including among younger people, though this may ultimately be for the best. The conversation turns to the Charlie Kirk shooting and questions whether the narrative—that the shooter was in love with a trans woman and acted because of Kirk's position on trans people—is accurate.
The crime scene was paved over within days afterward. Similar concerns exist around the Thomas Crooks assassination attempt, where the body was cremated quickly, preventing any toxicology examination. There's interest in knowing what psychiatric medications Crooks may have been on and what drove him to shoot at the president and kill people in the crowd.
The gun handling details don't add up. Varying accounts describe how Robinson got the gun onto the roof—whether it was in a backpack that couldn't fit it, whether parts were taped to his legs, or whether he assembled it on site. The claim that he disassembled the gun after the shooting, jumped off the roof, escaped, and reassembled it in the woods is viewed as implausible, especially for an untrained person under high stress and adrenaline.
A July 24th, 2024 House Homeland Security Committee hearing included Rep. Eli Crane stating he received information that Crooks' house was scrubbed, cleaned, and even silverware removed before investigative units arrived. Crane entered the allegation into the record. When asked whether the home had been extremely clean or missing silverware, Pennsylvania State Commissioner Colonel Christopher Paris replied he had not received such details in his briefings.
Crooks' primary residence was listed as his parents' single-family home. Investigators found bomb-making materials at the house after the assassination attempt. The question arises whether Crooks believed he would escape after the shooting, given the presence of snipers and the possibility that someone convinced him they had an exit strategy.
The quick cremation of Crooks prevented toxicology testing that might have revealed psychiatric medications or other substances like LSD in his system. Metadata from a phone connected DC and Virginia locations outside FBI offices to Crooks' house multiple times. The possibility is raised that someone got a young person to attempt the assassination, especially given the number of people before the election who wanted Trump dead.
The idea that the assassination attempt was staged—with a bullet intentionally nicking Trump's ear—is dismissed as unrealistic. At that distance, such precision is impossible; the risk of killing people behind Trump or causing far more severe injury makes the theory implausible. One person died, another was badly injured, and two others are suing the government for negligence due to permanent injuries.
The former head of the Secret Service claimed no one could be posted on the roof because the slope was too steep, despite the sniper positions being on a steeper slope. This suggests the setup may have allowed the shooter access. The broader point is made that powerful interests pull strings, and those who refuse to "kiss the ring" face consequences, a dynamic present in both politics and Hollywood.
Scott Eastwood is described as one of the most normal movie stars, with people often not recognizing him despite his lineage. Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are also noted as regular guys who manage to stay grounded. The conversation closes with thanks for vitamins from North Performance and promotion of the film Lucky Strike, releasing the next day to celebrate 250 years of veterans.
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