Joe Rogan Experience #2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard
In a Nutshell
Texas secured $100 million for the largest ibogaine research initiative to FDA-approve the plant-based alkaloid for treating opioid addiction (85-98% success in 48-72 hours), PTSD, TBI/CTE, and compulsive behaviors, driven by Rick Perry, W. Bryan Hubbard, and advocates like Marcus Luttrell after intense lobbying with Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick. Americans for Ibogaine leads a multistate push (Mississippi, Tennessee, others signing bills; tribes partnering) to bypass federal delays, highlighting ibogaine's neuroregenerative effects proven in Stanford studies on veterans and athletes. Momentum challenges War on Drugs stigma, promising societal transformation for trauma, addiction, and brain injuries amid opioid crisis failures.
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Joe Rogan welcomes Rick Perry and W. Bryan Hubbard back to the podcast.
Last visit was December 27, 2024. Organized 30 committed Texans whose families experienced trauma, addiction, alcoholism, and wounds of war. Developed plan based on Kentucky model to bring ibogaine as FDA-approved medication for addiction and trauma. Convinced Texas to fund drug development for public health crises.
After January 2, 2025 interview release, pursued 5.5-month campaign to convince 188 Texas legislators to fund $50 million Texas Ibogaine Initiative, largest psychedelic research project in history. Allies included Texans for Greater Mental Health led by Logan Davidson. Lived part-time in Austin, met legislators continuously. Secured yes votes from 181 out of 188 legislators.
On May 14, 2025, 36 hours before budget finalized, bill not funded. Received call about lack of funding, prayed for outcome. Three hours later, called to meet Texas House Speaker and Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick at 4:30 PM. Spent hour discussing project necessity.
On May 16, 2025 at 10:00 AM, Lt. Gov. Patrick confirmed approval and full funding. Just before studio, confirmed Texas committing $100 million fully on its own (originally public-private) to develop ibogaine through FDA process for American people and humanity.
Had advocates: twins Marcus and Morgan Luttrell (Joe knows Marcus). They shared personal ibogaine experiences saving their lives and war fighters'. Explained restoration after broken VA systems. Led to open-minded meeting.
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