Rick Rubin: What Jay-Z Did in 30 Minutes Left Me Speechless!
In a Nutshell
Jay-Z writes songs entirely in his head after looping a beat for 20-30 minutes without writing anything down, then records it in a few takes. Rick Rubin argues that the best creative work comes from following internal intuition, taking indefensible risks, and making work as a personal offering rather than optimizing for commercial success or audience approval. The most successful artists like Linkin Park, Radiohead, and System of a Down made their biggest leaps by abandoning what worked commercially to pursue what they genuinely wanted to create, even when it alienated half their existing audience.
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Jay-Z wrote in a way that no one else wrote. All the other rappers that Rick Rubin worked with spent a lot of time writing lyrics. Rick never saw Jay write lyrics. When Rick played him the beat for 99 Problems, Jay said, "Okay, just keep playing it over and over again." Jay sat in the back of the room. You could hear him mumbling or humming. After 20 or 30 minutes, Jay said, "Okay, I got it." Jay ran into the other room and did the first verse. Jay did three takes. Then Jay came in, listened to them, and said, "Oh, yeah. I think the second one's good." It just happens in his mind.
Rick has worked with Jay-Z, Kanye, Adele, Justin Timberlake, Mick Jagger, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. When asked why these people call him, Rick explains that he has been making things for 40 years. He started making music as a hobby. It ended up taking on a life of its own and becoming a business. The list of clients are not special. Rick would say they are ordinary people who made a decision. Rick thinks of Eminem as a good example. Eminem is someone who's always writing because he wants to be the best he could possibly be and he's insanely obsessive about that.
It appears that some people are just inherently more creative than others. Rick states that creativity is beaten out of us over the course of our lives. We go to school, we're taught to follow rules. The rules are not there to help us. The rules are there to control us. We're not taught to be free creative thinkers. Rick is suggesting we break free and express ourselves freely.
All of the best things involve risk. It's only through the risk that the greatness is shown. Something needs to die. That lifestyle, that moment, that career path, that relationship - that's what needs to die. When asked about a step one in that direction for people that want to hit the reset button, the conversation shifts to Rick's own experience.
Rick had a depressive episode in his early 30s. It was really a tough time. Rick felt like the rug had been pulled out from under him. He started having panic attacks and couldn't sleep and got really sick and it felt like he was shot with a poison arrow.
Rick self-categorizes himself as involved in art and creativity. His involvement in art and creativity might be as a coach, as a collaborator. It might come up in a film project or it might come up in someone who's has a startup who wants to talk about creative solutions. Any problem that we have or anything we want to get better at, there's usually a creative path to improve or at least to test to see if there are other ways around. Often the accepted version of how to move forward is another limitation.
Rick shares an interesting principle. A word he's been thinking about lately is indefensible. Indefensible is a really pejorative word. It's a strong pejorative. If something is indefensible, it's not just bad. Indefensible is really extreme. Rick is thinking that in making art, indefensible is actually a good thing. Maybe not only a good thing, maybe a necessary thing. That you take things to the extreme that are indefensible. Rick can't tell you why because it's beyond reason. Rick is in the camp that reason is a tiny sliver of how decisions get made. Rick would be much more in the camp of intuition or maybe some sort of guidance from the universe. Openness to being guided by something more, something the creative force of the universe. You could call it God. Rick calls it God.
A little over a year ago there was a meme about vibe coding. Andrej Karpathy coined the term vibe coding. Rick didn't know what it was. That same day that Karpathy coined the term and tweeted about it, someone put a picture of Rick wearing headphones with his eyes closed, hand on a mouse. That image became associated with vibe coding. It had nothing to do with Rick. Rick saw it and didn't know what it meant. But then over the next few days, friends started sending Rick hundreds of this image associated with vibe coding in all different ways.
Rick thought that the old him, pre-creative act him, would have laughed and moved on with his life. One of the things Rick learned through working on the creative act is that we're given information all the time around us. There are all these opportunities or invitations being made all the time.
In the past, if someone told Rick about a movie that sounded like he didn't want to see it, that doesn't sound like it's for him, he would ignore it. But if two or three people say you might want to see this movie, Rick might even if it's not interesting to him, it's almost like the universe has some too much energy behind this.
This was an example of a lot of energy coming towards Rick relating to vibe coding. Rick didn't know what it was. Rick thought, okay, how do I participate? If Rick wants to participate in this thing that's going on, an experiment, creative experiment. Rick thought he was going to write a joke tweet related to vibe coding. Rick came up with "tools will come, tools will go, only the vibe coder remains." Typically the tweets get 10,000-20,000 views. Rick looked the next day and this joke tweet had a million and a half views.
It was an indefensible act. There was no reason for Rick to do it. But Rick was feeling this energy coming at him from all of these different directions. Rick participates. Rick answers the invitation. It comes back with interest. Rick thought what would be the next step and the next step is well Rick still doesn't really know what vibe coding is, maybe Rick will write a book about vibe coding. Rick put aside all of his real work, his professional work, to dedicate himself to this book on vibe coding. Again, Rick couldn't explain it, couldn't tell you why, can't say it was a good idea. None of those things. Rick was following a calling, feeling like he was being invited to participate in this thing and this is the way that he could answer the call.
In so many parts of our life, we might get that invitation to participate in something that is none of our business. We usually say no because it's not what's on our business card. It's not what we've done in the past. The more successful we become, the more narrow we become in many respects.
Any label that you put on yourself or that's put on you makes you smaller. No label supply. We are beyond labels. It's tempting though because labels are nice shortcuts at cocktail parties. There are also no shortcuts.
If you feel a call, even if it doesn't make sense, for an artist to write a song and you really feel like this is really meaningful to me, I think no one's going to like it, but I really feel it, I can't defend it. That's the best thing you can do. If you make something where you think this is for everyone or they're going to love it, it's too easy. The most interesting things are challenging. It's challenging to you. It's challenging to the people who see it.
The things that are revolutionary, most of the things that Rick has fallen in love with over his life creatively, art when he first sees it or first hears it, he might not like it at first because it's too much or he doesn't have any context for it. The true revolutionary works we don't have context for.
Sometimes things that are more of the same do bigger numbers. Rick worked on a record with Kanye called Jesus Is King. When the person first heard that as a huge Kanye fan, they thought they were going to get more College Dropout. They put it on and thought what the hell is this? But then they loved it. It took a while. It took a while to really persevere and then they thought it was genius because it was a new paradigm.
It was a sort of an anti-hip hop album and that was done intentionally and it definitely went as far as they could into an indefensible realm. When asked about the numbers and sales and the record label, Rick asks if it's an important album to them now. They say yes. Rick says it did its job.
We never consider near-term incentive ever at any point in time. Never once. Never a consideration. It doesn't exist. We're making things forever. We're making things that are truly personal to us. If it's truly personal to us, if someone doesn't get it, that's they just don't get it yet. Or maybe they'll never get it. And it's fine because I know this is my diary entry.
Everything we make is a diary entry. Everything we make is our personal true expression. The reason we're saying it is to show you see it like that. We see it like this or I see it like this. This is how I see it. And with that information, you can see it's like, ah, I never considered that before. There's more. The world is bigger than I thought. It's not just more the same. It's not just more numbers. And the more numbers game is a shorter term game.
Rick made an album with Linkin Park who at the time were probably one of the biggest bands in the world. They had made three albums that were stylistically very similar. They were rap rock and there was a rap rock movement. Korn was first, Rage Against the Machine, Limp Bizkit, all these bands. Linkin Park was probably the last of that wave of music. They were wildly successful doing that music.
When they started working together, there was a choice. They could continue and do the next in that same style which the audience would love and it would be easy to do, or they could be true to where the band was in this moment of time, 10 years after they started, about 8-10 years after they started, and be free to find the new sound, the next sound. When they did that, probably half of the audience didn't like it and half of the audience loved it and new people came along and they set themselves up to have a much longer career of making the things that they wanted to make.
Whereas they were already on the tail end of a genre that had they made another one, maybe it would have been as successful as what they had done. But long-term the genre was dying.
Another example is Radiohead's Kid A. When Kid A came out, Rick didn't like it at all. He loved The Bends and OK Computer. They were his favorite band. Then they made this album Kid A. It was totally different and it really alienated Rick. Today that might be Rick's favorite Radiohead album.
It feels like a risk. But that's all of the best things involve risk because Rick has also got examples where someone followed that thesis of listening to what they wanted to make or doing it for themselves and not thinking too much about the audience and it didn't work. Of course, and they could have just made a hit and paid off their mortgage. It's not so interesting. Rick knows it's not so interesting to him. Rick thinks that's a different game. That's the investment commerce game and Rick is in the art game. It's just a different thing. There's nothing wrong with that other game. It's just not Rick's game.
When asked which one leads to more success over the long term, defined by the subjective opinion of people that that was good and money, Rick says all he can say is that he's been making things for 40 years. Rick has never done it the way suggested. Rick has always taken the risk. Rick has always made his favorite thing. Rick has always supported the artists in making their favorite thing and luckily a lot of revolutionary things have happened from that and Rick would say things that probably inspired other artists to be more free and more true and more honest and take bigger risks to make something more interesting made the world more interesting place.
Why do these people call Rick? Rick thinks it's probably different for different artists. When asked why Jay-Z called Rick, Rick explains that the time that he first met Jay was when Jay was making the Black Album. Jay wanted to retire and this was going to be his swan song. His final album. The Black Album was Jay-Z's last album. Turned out not to be, but that was the plan. Jay asked his 10 favorite producers to each make one track with him. Theirs was called 99 Problems. It was a really fun experience to make.
Rick's contribution to that record was that they created the track and played it for Jay and he liked it and then he wrote the words and rapped on top of it. Rick produced the music. Rick made the music.
Rick read that he gave Jay direction in terms of the lyrics as well. When Rick's friend Chris Rock had the idea of Ice-T had a song called 99 Problems that was the opposite. It was I have 99 problems and a bitch ain't one and then it's a story about the girls. Chris said, you know, 99 problems would be a great hook and it doesn't have to be about the girls. Then Rick suggested to Jay, make it about the problems. And then that's what it was.
Jay-Z was signed to Def Jam Records. Def Jam Records was the label that Rick founded and Rick was no longer at Def Jam when they made 99 Problems. Rick remembers giving it to the people at Def Jam and the person who was the president of Def Jam at the time listened to it and said, "Oh, this is great. It'll never be a single, but it'll be a great album track."
Rick remembers thinking, okay, and again, Rick couldn't say, but the president of the label that Rick founded was saying this could never be a single because it doesn't sound like everything else on the radio. That was the old way of thinking. That was the normal way of thinking of like you make things to go on the radio that sound like everything else on the radio. But if you do that, who cares? It's just more the same.
So 99 Problems didn't sound like anything on the radio. So when it eventually got on the radio, it had a big impact.
Another band Rick works with is called System of a Down. Rick remembers bringing their record to Kevin Weatherly at KROQ, which is the rock station, alternative rock station in California. If they play it, all of the other alternative rock stations in the country play it. They were like the leading station. This was a California band that was starting to get popular in the clubs. Maybe 200 people would come, but in a club, the club would sell out. Good sign.
Rick brought the song called Sugar to Kevin Weatherly and played it for him. Kevin said, "Not only will we not play this record, we will never play this band on our station" because it sounded insane. It didn't sound like anything else on the station. One year later, number one song on the station, most requested, and two weeks ago, Rick saw System of a Down sell out 80,000 seats in a stadium in Paris. They sold it out two nights in a row.
Rick can't tell you how or why this works. Rick can't tell you that there's anything to follow, but Rick will say we made the things that we loved. We never questioned if anyone else was going to like it. We never questioned what the audience was going to think. We never questioned where does it fit in the market. None of those normal conversations. We made our favorite thing. We took it to an indefensible level as far as we could go and luckily it worked out.
When asked if there is a way to get clearer on what you love, Rick says meditate. Rick learned to meditate when he was 14. Rick thinks having TM as a grounding element in his life changed him. Rick knows this because he stopped meditating when he went to college. Then when Rick moved to California, right after college, he started meditating again. Somewhere Rick knew it was a big decision and somewhere Rick knew there would be a right moment to start. It took several months before Rick actually sat for the first meditation after not doing it for several years.
In that first meditation, Rick realized, oh, this is very familiar to me. This is a big part of who I am, even though I haven't done it in 5 years. It's a big part of how I see the world. The fact that Rick got to do that from a young age.
When asked who Rick would be without meditation, Rick says he doesn't know. It would be interesting. Rick is happy that he doesn't know because he likes having the practice. But whether Rick continues a practice or not, he's done enough of it over the course of his life that he's there. When Rick meditates more, it gets deeper. But even if Rick doesn't meditate, it's like Maharishi, teacher of transcendental meditation, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi says every time you meditate it's like making a deposit in the bank.
So it builds up and again that was rhetoric before but in Rick's experience he got to see oh it's not rhetoric like Rick actually had this experience and it changed the way he saw the world. Rick will say you see beyond the surface. You can see the depth underneath. For Rick the things on the surface are not so interesting. Rick is interested in the depth, the depth behind it.
Transcendental meditation is a mantra practice that's done silently. You do it sitting with your eyes closed. You learn it from a TM teacher. Rick can't teach it. We close our eyes and then the mantra is a sound vibration that gets given to you. Rick was given his when he was 14. Rick has never uttered it out loud since that time. Rick has never shared it with anyone. That's part of the training. It's like a private sound and you engage with this sound in the way that you're taught. 20 minutes at least once a day, typically twice a day.
Rick would do it right when he woke up in the morning and then again before dinner. Those would be the two windows. When Rick lived in California and was working in different recording studios, he meditated with Tom Petty and Johnny Cash and different artists before sessions that would be part of their practice. Red Hot Chili Peppers would sit and meditate together before sessions. Rick has had this experience for a while in his life and it's probably the most profound thing Rick can mention.
How did Rick know it was efficacious? How did Rick know it was working? What is the measure that this practice is worth that investment in time in Rick's view? The only proof that Rick had was getting away from it and coming back to it. That was how Rick recognized it in that first meditation back how deep and connected he was to this thing.
Rick is guessing this unlocks a deeper level, a deeper level of creativity and ideas. Everything. Deeper understanding. People often hear that meditation in various forms is beneficial. Very successful people sit here all the time and say it's so central to why they've been able to do what they've done.
Rick has a question which is if you live with a person who says this practice is so impactful on her life, Rick is questioning why the person at least hasn't tried it with her for a month to see how. It's a good question. The person has no good answer for it.
What it has to do with is you're not looking for cues from the outside. You're looking for cues on the inside. What lights you up? What are you excited to play for your friend? Not what are you excited to play for your friend of like what do you think this will do? You're playing for your friend like wow can you believe something like this exists in the world? How cool is that.
The distinction that Rick is trying to make is often if you read business books or entrepreneurship books when they're talking about innovation when they're talking about the great companies like Amazon or Rick heard Sebastian who's the CEO of Clara say it the other day who's a tech founder they spend a lot of time thinking about the customer the customer's problem and they work
Amazon builds its platform by starting with the customer's problem and working backwards to find the answer. They zoom in on specific customer problems and then work backwards from there to create solutions. One of Jeff Bezos's famous quotes is that he bets on things that he knows won't change. He notes that no one in ten years is going to come up to him and say they wish their package would take longer. This allows him to double down on solving a customer problem.
Looking at Amazon's history, the company lost money for approximately 20 years and was considered one of the worst investments until it became successful. They kept doubling down on what they believed in even when the audience showed it didn't work and the model showed it didn't work. They stuck to their beliefs and ultimately changed the world. The key insight is that it's about doubling down on what you believe in when all of the metrics are showing you it's not working.
Creativity is beaten out of people over the course of their lives. Schools teach students to repeat back what they're told, to sit in a chair all day, and break their spirits through institutional control. People are not taught to be free creative thinkers but instead are taught to follow rules. These rules are not there to help individuals but to control them. The suggestion is to break free and express ourselves freely, as that is our purpose on the planet.
In the creative process, it's not productive to talk about how success will be measured or to try to optimize for that measurement. The approach tends not to involve thinking about those things at all. Data is not used in creative decisions. Instead, the focus is on internal feeling and the feeling experienced when sharing work with someone else. When something lights someone up, that resonance can be felt. Sometimes numbers cannot reflect this quality - two things might be on equal footing commercially, yet one lights people up while the other just gets the job done. Long-term, the one that lights people up tends to have more value and support over time.
One major block to creativity is believing you're not good enough. Someone at some point tells a child they can't sing, and that gets lodged in their identity. They may be told they're a terrible cook or not smart enough. These gifts get stifled and smothered. Everyone is creative, but people receive bad information and believe they're not good enough when it's not true.
When people say someone is creative and someone else is not, they're attempting to simplify a complicated world. Everyone can do anything, though not necessarily better than anyone else. The idea of competition creates problems - if someone wants to play baseball, they can get better at it, but if they can't play for the Mets, they think it's not for them and shut that off. This doesn't serve people or help them become their best selves.
Comparison should be avoided because it's always apples and oranges. Michael Jackson is better at being Michael Jackson, and Prince is better at being Prince, but they can't be compared because they do different things. Kanye West and Drake are not in competition because they do two totally different things. What comes from each is totally different, and it's pointless to compare them. The idea of competition between artists is strange - it's like asking who has a better diary entry.
Feeling you don't have the energy it takes is another thing not conducive to the work. Even when tired or jetlagged, showing up is what matters. Rick Rubin has referred to himself as a lazy workaholic - most days he would rather not do the things he's scheduled to do, but he schedules them and shows up to do what needs to get done.
Deadlines are not typically used until past the point where the work is already known to be good. The first time a deadline would be established is when the code has already been cracked and the direction is clear. It may not be completely finished, but there's a good idea of what it is and how it will work, perhaps 90% done. Then a deadline might be set for the last 10% of finishing. That last 10% probably won't make or break the project.
Part of accepting the creative process described - where it's really about whether the creator likes it - is that some things created will be legendary and unlike anything else that exists. However, the risk taken is that other things made will simply not be liked by other people. The process involves having an idea, building it, and potentially learning along the way that the idea wasn't the best. Sometimes starting out to make one thing results in something entirely different. The outcome can't be calculated or anticipated, but without doing the experiment, the better thing would never be reached.
There are different phases of creativity. The first phase is the seed phase, then the experimentation phase, then the crafting phase, and finally the finishing completion editorial phase. Timelines cannot be set early in the process. In the seed phase, many things must be tried, and it takes as long as it takes. The experimental phase, where seeds are taken and explored for what they want to be, also takes time. The crafting phase involves trimming and shaping what has grown, and all of this must happen before any timeline can be considered because until that time, what is being made is still a dream.
Once the three phases have been completed and something exists that can be seen and understood, it may not be finished but it can be seen clearly. When it's good to the creator - meaning it's liked enough to show to others - that's where it ends. If it's liked enough to show to one person, it's liked enough to show to everybody.
The creative act started with the idea of how to make things, but through writing the book it became clear that it's about how to be in the world. Either life is lived to allow these things to happen or it isn't. Living life to allow these things to happen makes someone an artist, whether they're a businessman, chef, or mother. It's about embodying creativity and having it come from within. It's who someone is in that moment - showing something beautiful as a reflection of how the world is seen today. Tomorrow the world may be seen differently, and that's fine.
The word failure and how to deal with it is important because people won't take the risk to listen to themselves and what they love due to the word risk. With risk comes the possibility of losing money, losing friends, or having people think someone is strange. The advice is that those things must be done - lose the friends, take the risk. However, this doesn't mean that moving to pursue something like being a violinist in Peru will work out 100% of the time. An actual job to pay the bills while pursuing creative work is acceptable.
The idea that everything has to be one thing - that a dream thing has to be both hobby and profession - isn't necessary. When starting to make music, the expectation was to have a real job while making music as a hobby. It would have been done forever regardless. The expectation wasn't that it could be a profession - that seemed like a ridiculous idea. It was done because it was loved. Many people are told to follow their passion and find their purpose, but the word passion is singular and find implies actively pursuing something. People may look at their current job and think it's not their passion yet but will be later.
There are realities of life that must be dealt with, such as paying rent. The advice is not to ignore these realities or live in parents' house until creative work succeeds. However, the pressure of these realities shouldn't be put on art because that leads to poor decisions. Short-term decisions based on immediate real-world issues won't support the long-term benefit of the work being done.
When working with artists, there's no attempt to persuade anyone of anything. Instead, the conversation involves asking what they hope to accomplish and then supporting that process. When an artist says they want to make an album, the first questions involve playing their favorite things they've made and talking about them. The approach is to listen and then talk about it, asking questions about what they like about it, how they got to that point, what equipment was used, whether it was fun making it, and what the experience was like playing it for others.
Often artists will come saying they have no idea what they want to do and ask for help. There's a barrier between people and their own understanding. Therapy works similarly - through talking, understanding emerges about what someone believes, thinks, and what's going on in their life. Epiphanies can occur just because someone is listening. Most people aren't used to being heard, really heard, deeply heard. Often when someone says something, others are thinking about what they're going to say next rather than truly hearing. When someone is really listened to, they tell what they want to do, and the job becomes helping remove the roadblocks they're putting in their own way.
When someone says what they want to do but then asks what they should do, that indicates a lack of self-trust. This lack of self-trust is the condition of the world - how people are indoctrinated. Most people don't trust themselves. There's a fine line because people who seem to really trust themselves might appear egotistical, but wildly egotistical behavior usually hides insecurities. It's like a mask. Dealing with someone who's insecure and someone who's overconfident are often two sides of the same coin. The goal is finding the middle place of reality - not what someone is afraid of about themselves or what other people will think, but where they really are on something.
The goal can be described as tasting food. If given two pieces of pizza and asked which one is liked better, the answer would be simple - one tastes better than the other. When asked which tastes better, the response wouldn't be about what someone else might like. It would be that one tastes better to the person tasting it. The goal is getting to that simple recognition of what tastes better to oneself. People don't believe it can be as simple as it is, but it is simple.
When betting on an artist being one of the great artists worked with, the characteristics or perspective or humility that leads to exceptional work are key. Similar attributes exist when investing in entrepreneurs. A venture capital friend said that when picking things to invest in, it's always the founder that matters, not the premise of the business. If the person is believed in, they'll be backed. The same applies to artists - it's the artist, not whether they wrote a great song. The great song is like the great product - maybe they could do that again. But seeing how they see music and how they innovate in the things they make is a good sign.
The Strokes asked for album production help approximately 15 years ago. After listening to the demos, there was no sense of how to approach it - no path could be seen. The same thing happened about 12 years ago. Then about 6 years ago, they sent demos again. These were probably the worst demos ever sent, but what it could be could be heard. Some demos might be 20-second voice notes, whereas in the past there were produced demos of great new songs. In a 20-second voice note, the whole song could be imagined, and whatever seed of an idea existed had the potential to really be good.
Knowing whether something has potential comes through feeling it. There is no knowing in the conventional sense - it's a knowingness, an internal experience. One indicator is leaning forward rather than leaning back, wanting to listen again rather than skip to the next one. It generates curiosity and interest, creating a desire to know more.
No goals are set in life. Uncertainty is accepted as real. A house in Malibu that was the main house with all possessions burned in a fire 8 years ago. The realization came that impermanence is real - what was thought to be lived in forever was gone, now just a dirt lot. Nothing can really be known. Decisions are made based on the information available at the time, and life unfolds.
An analogy would be a satnav in a car - setting a destination and driving toward it. Instead, the approach is just driving. There was a period when working many hours in the recording studio, making eight albums a year, working on different projects simultaneously. On days off, no plans would be made - just driving and listening to music in the car. Sometimes a destination would be reached, sometimes just driving for a couple of hours to relax. Getting lost is okay. Goals and 5-year plans and New Year's resolutions have never been done and seem like terrible limitations. Having more ordinary understanding of the world than what actually happens prevents seeing the impossible become possible on a regular basis. Planning for that couldn't be done. Now that it's happened so much, it's accepted as how it is, and the ride continues.
The unknown and uncertainty are accepted. This may be something everyone can do, or it may be a privilege that comes with success, as people limit themselves in so many ways.
A successful artist going through a difficult time was at dinner in Malibu. Their energy felt so unbalanced and conflicted that suicide seemed like a real possibility. The advice given was that they did not have to continue with what was causing so much conflict, that they had done enough already, and that they could move anywhere in the world, live on the beach, eat good food, and play in the water.
Years later, the artist revealed that the words had been heard and that they had chosen to "check out" by leaving the industry entirely. The artist did not commit suicide but instead walked away from the lifestyle causing the pain.
Several people who attempted or committed suicide felt their choices had boxed them in with no way out. The core insight is that when someone feels suicidal, something does need to die, but it is not the body. What needs to die are the choices, the lifestyle, the career path, or the relationship that created the entrapment. People can start an entirely new life at any moment.
The belief that "this is all there is" is an illusion. At any time, a person can decide to do everything differently and start a whole new life. This does not require significant money. One can move to beautiful, low-cost places where people are happy. It is simply a choice. Life is compared to a chess game where one can get up and leave the table to play a completely different game.
Identity can function as a prison. A person described accepting the identity of being a lawyer in Manhattan and a father. This identity was accepted as a trade-off for social recognition at cocktail parties. The trade created a sense of being boxed in.
The statement "We're free. We just have to choose to take advantage of this human gift of freedom and we can start over" emphasizes that freedom is always available.
A close friend who attempted suicide survived and was visited in the hospital. He was catatonic in a fetal position and had not spoken. Previous visitors entered crying and acted as though he had died. When it was time to enter, the words that emerged were: "This may be hard for you to see right now, but you're in the sweet spot." The friend looked shocked.
The message continued: "You just hit the reset button. All of the things that you hate to do, that you feel obligated to do, that you feel committed to do, that made you want to not be here anymore, you just hit the reset button. You never have to do any of those things again. And now you can do anything you want." The friend got up, dressed, and returned to himself.
The first step is to identify the things one truly wants to change and then find the cleanest way to change them, whether that means leaving a job or leaving a relationship. Commitments are generally good to make and keep, but there comes a point where a commitment can become a matter of life and death.
Examples include a marriage where one partner becomes an alcoholic, making the situation unbearable. Staying because "this is the life we signed up for" does not serve either person. Being unhappy in a relationship does no favors to anyone involved.
Love is described as requiring mutual pull, like magnets. Unrequited love is not real love because love is a two-way connection. If a relationship is not working, it is better for everyone to find a new path.
A life can become fundamentally misaligned through many small misalignments rather than one large issue. These can sometimes be repaired through difficult conversations. People pleasers often struggle with this.
Large sums of money have been turned down when the project did not align with the goal of making something good. Decisions are never made for financial reasons alone. If something is made successful, that is valuable, but money is never the deciding factor.
At age 33, after years of unbroken success, a business relationship with a major music industry figure ended when the mentor was politically forced out. The new person called and stated they did not like the existing agreement and wanted to discuss it upon return to California. This triggered panic attacks, insomnia, and physical illness that lasted for years, even after the practical problem was resolved by leaving the company and starting a new relationship.
The experience was described as being like a balloon that burst. It permanently changed the person, moving them from a Superman-like belief that everything would always work out to a more rooted view of reality.
The episode improved empathy and understanding toward artists dealing with personal issues because the experience of having the bottom fall out became personally known.
Therapy was pursued along with an antidepressant after seeing multiple therapists and healers five days a week. The condition was severe enough and long enough that medication was used despite a general reluctance to take drugs. Every morning the hope was that the day would be better, but it was not.
The experience was described as feeling like being shot with a poison arrow on a psychological level. Physical symptoms included inability to sleep, constant nausea, and not wanting to get out of bed.
Parents were loving and supportive. The person was raised believing they could do no wrong. Early success reinforced this belief until the first professional rejection occurred. There was no prior context or emotional musculature for handling instability or rejection.
The experience would not be erased if given the chance because every event, positive and negative, contributed to becoming the current person. The gift received was a more realistic perspective on the world while still believing in magic and possibility.
Great artists share a distinct point of view. They see the world in ways others do not or notice something everyone sees but no one has pointed out before. This is the same quality found in great comedians who articulate shared but unstated observations.
Art allows people to experience emotions happening to others and feel them as their own. A heartbreak song can be felt even without personal heartbreak. Art widens perspective and reveals angles previously unseen.
Great artists work very hard. Success requires both exceptional talent and work ethic because the field is highly competitive. Without the willingness to do whatever it takes, even tremendous talent may never reach an audience.
To develop a more interesting perspective, look outside one's primary field. Read great literature, visit museums, take audio tours, see the greatest movies, and read old books rather than new ones. Ancient wisdom is recommended as the best source.
When multiple people recommend a book, it should be read. The idea is that if everyone reads the same current books, everyone develops the same perspective. Looking elsewhere creates differentiation.
The Dao was first read approximately 30 years ago upon moving to California. Each reading at different life stages revealed an entirely different book. The central lesson extracted is: "The soft overcomes the hard." Non-action is often the best action.
A story about Napoleon illustrates this: when presented with emergencies, he instructed that the matter be brought back in two weeks. Most problems resolve themselves within that time, and only persistent issues require attention.
Carl Jung's ideas of archetypes, dreams, and synchronicity are viewed as accurate descriptions of how the world actually works. These concepts provide comfort because they differ from conventional math and science explanations yet feel closer to reality.
The world is considered much bigger and more interesting than commonly acknowledged. Most things assumed to be understood may not be accurate. Science represents current understanding until the next breakthrough negates prior knowledge.
Certain attractions and repulsions between people cannot be explained by science. When one person feels a strong desire to spend time with another while feeling the opposite toward someone else, something energetic is occurring that science does not address.
Believing that wisdom impacts lives more than data could change how decisions are made. Instead of relying on numbers to determine outcomes, recognize that many times numbers have been followed and three years later the results did not match expectations. The Moneyball approach represents one narrow way of viewing situations, while meeting someone and feeling an immediate desire to be with them operates differently, without any calculable metrics.
Trusting oneself more involves paying attention to energetic feeling rather than external validation. Spending extended periods without trusting personal judgment causes the antenna for sensing what is happening to become rusty. Using this antenna as frequently as possible allows it to guide decisions more effectively.
Miracles that once seemed surprising become expected through repeated experience, though they remain unpredictable and cannot be bet on. When they occur, they align with what seemed likely to happen despite the inability to forecast them.
A higher creative intelligence exists as a generative force that allows plants to grow and life to continue. This energy is not specifically directed at individuals but represents a force that life wants to express, comparable to catching waves that exist beyond ocean waves. These waves cannot always be seen but can potentially be felt and recognized over time.
The universe appears to want people to understand this concept through paying attention and following feelings that may not make logical sense but feel like an invitation to participate.
Rationality can function as a curse by creating an overly narrow perspective. The rational world is very small compared to the broader range of interesting phenomena occurring beyond rational explanation. Partners who help break outside of rationality demonstrate how these ideas impact their lives by raising their vibration, which becomes valuable enough to want to remain around that energy.
AI represents a wildly powerful tool that could be dangerous or beneficial, similar to fire, the internet, and the printing press. Each of these technologies faced attempts at restriction but ultimately produced both positive and negative outcomes.
Creativity requires point of view, which AI does not possess. AI represents collected ideas that already exist without seeing from any particular angle. When asked the same question multiple times, AI may provide different answers each day, indicating it lacks a consistent perspective on the world.
AI could theoretically generate 10 million tracks, though whether any would constitute a hit remains unclear. The technology might function similarly to crate digging in hip-hop, where old records are sampled and context is changed to create something new. AI could play music continuously and provide clips for sampling rather than replacing the complete artistic process.
AI cannot replace the artist because what audiences want from artists involves point of view. However, AI could serve as a tool to help artists and enable people who do not consider themselves artists to express creativity. Someone unable to draw, play instruments, or lacking recognized talent could prompt AI through iteration to create something beautiful.
Creativity encompasses the entire process beyond just the output. When considering great songs, the perceived creativity includes the complete journey: meetings, building distribution and reputation, and the artist's life story that audiences follow. Olivia Dean's music carries additional weight because of the story and support system behind it.
Alfred Hitchcock worked out entire movies in advance through storyboarding, making the finished film almost unnecessary since the complete vision existed in drawings. Wes Anderson similarly creates movies frame by frame before actors arrive. AI could assist in this mocking-up process, but the prompt represents where creativity resides, not in the drawing or finished product.
Anyone can learn prompting through experimentation, making the barrier to entry very low. This accessibility allows people who consider themselves non-creative to participate in creation, which represents a positive development.
The distinction between great and lesser artists remains unchanged regardless of AI availability. People love artists who create work that changes their lives, moves them, and creates desire for repeated engagement. Whether AI could produce work that audiences want to experience repeatedly remains unknown, with no indication this capability will develop.
A song was enjoyed until discovering it was AI-generated, at which point the appreciation diminished. The song had resonated because it appeared to come from a woman singing about subjects meaningful to her. When this human element was removed, the song lost something significant.
Andy Warhol began as a commercial illustrator drawing shoes for advertising before developing pop art. His famous Campbell's soup cans and images of Elvis and Marilyn Monroe were created through screen printing rather than direct painting. Warhol prompted studio workers to execute his vision without personally touching the final pieces, yet these works remain authentically his because the ideation originated with him.
Renaissance painters operated studios where masters like Rembrandt might paint only 30-70% of works while directing disciples to complete the rest according to the master's vision. This practice continues in music production where bands may not play on their own records, with studio musicians handling performance while the artistic vision remains intact.
Watching Formula 1 would lose interest if Lewis Hamilton were removed and cars drove autonomously, even if times improved. The appeal lies in witnessing human beings experience emotions of competition and anger, with driving styles revealing their feelings in relatable ways.
The human relatability and resonance experienced when discovering a song was AI-generated represents the element that creates connection. However, enjoyment occurred before knowing the song's origin, raising questions about whether opposition should exist based solely on creation method.
Miracles occur regularly when working with great artists. During recording of a Brother song called "No Hard Feelings," the performance shifted dramatically in one take without any instruction to change anything. Time seemed to stop, creating an incredible result that no one understood or could explain. The fear emerged that the performers might not complete the song, potentially losing the magic permanently.
An album recorded with Neil Young initially seemed impossible during the first week, with the band appearing unable to play the songs and potentially never developing the ability. Neil Young maintained confidence that the second week would improve. When attempting to re-record a song from the first week, the drummer insisted the original version was better. After minor adjustments like lowering bass and raising piano, the magic became apparent despite mistakes. The feeling transcended technical problems, and most of the album was ultimately completed during that first week that initially seemed destined for failure.
These moments of great art creation cannot be repeated. The repeatable element is showing up and continuing until the work becomes great, regardless of required effort. Sometimes a five-minute demo or sketch proves superior to months of work on a larger piece.
Initial recordings with Johnny Cash occurred in a living room setting without intention of creating an album. The purpose was getting to know each other through exploring songs Johnny remembered from growing up and testing what sounded good when he sang. The plan involved testing a hundred songs to identify ten for studio recording with a band. The band recordings proved interesting but not superior to the living room versions, which were ultimately released despite having no original intention for public release.
Creative work sometimes reveals it wants to become something entirely different from the original vision. When something feels wrong, the indicators become clear that changes are needed, such as slowing down a song thought to be fast or making quiet a song intended to be loud. The work communicates its true nature through the process.
Work considered amazing by creators sometimes receives different reception from audiences, which occurs frequently. Once deciding work is ready to share, the creator moves on without concern for external opinions. Positive reception provides enjoyment but represents a bonus rather than the core motivation.
Thinking about what happens next undermines the creative process, which requires protection as a pure and delicate endeavor. When artists suggest something sounds like a single during recording, the response is to avoid that conversation entirely since it has nothing to do with making the best possible work.
The work aims toward timeless greatness without knowing exactly what that means. More recently, the realization emerged that creating represents making an offering to God. When working as an offering, metrics like numbers become insignificant compared to doing one's best as a gift.
This understanding developed a few years ago while sitting on a lifeguard chair in Hawaii, creating an epiphany that clarified what had been done for 35 years without previous understanding. The realization felt like everything made more sense.
Creating as an offering to God means the higher power serves as beneficiary rather than customer. The motivation involves showing the best work out of love, thanks, and gratitude. If others appreciate the work, that represents additional positive energy, but the core purpose remains offering the best possible creation regardless of reception.
We are here to show who we are through self-expression. The goal is to communicate how we see the world and invite others to share their perspectives. This creates dialogue where people may align or differ, and through this process we figure things out. Self-expression takes many forms, but the authentic version never involves copying what worked for someone else. Copying successful approaches is a different game entirely and not the purpose of being here.
A physicist who studies consciousness proposed that consciousness itself may be God, divided into many pieces - into Rick, into a French bulldog named Pablo, into people in China - each sent out to explore and understand the world. Through this process, consciousness seeks to understand itself. While observing tourists in Malta looking at a mountain, this idea seemed plausible - that consciousness has fragmented itself to explore the novel and understand its own nature. This concept resonates with the idea of self-expression as consciousness expressing itself.
Jay-Z had made Cristal champagne popular in hip-hop culture by featuring it in songs and clubs. When the person running Cristal made disparaging remarks about hip-hop people drinking it, Jay-Z was insulted. He immediately stopped supporting the brand and removed it from his clubs. Almost immediately after making this decision, someone approached him about starting a new champagne brand. The only asset they had was the bottle, which Jay-Z loved for its shape and gold color.
The universe responded to Jay-Z doing the right thing by removing Cristal. He wasn't thinking about starting a business when he made his decision - he simply refused to support a brand that insulted the hip-hop movement. The new opportunity arrived unbidden, and he ended up owning a champagne brand that was worth $630 million when he sold his stake.
When something isn't working, ending it creates a vacuum that allows the right thing to come in. This differs from the common approach of staying in a situation while looking for something better to replace it. Jay-Z wasn't looking for a new business opportunity - he simply created space by removing what no longer aligned with his values, and the universe filled that void with something better.
Society celebrates starting new things but stigmatizes quitting, yet quitting is often the necessary first step to beginning something meaningful. This applies to leaving jobs, relationships, or creative approaches that no longer serve.
When artists present work they genuinely believe is great, the response is to support them putting it out, regardless of personal taste. If the creator truly loves something and wants to share it, that authentic belief is what matters. Personal disagreement doesn't override someone else's genuine conviction about their own work.
There have been cases where presented work didn't resonate but was released anyway and became commercially successful. One such example involved a song that didn't seem to fit with the rest of an album but became a major hit.
Stating dislike for something only reflects personal taste, not objective truth. This principle applied when declining to produce Guns N' Roses' first album after seeing them perform as what appeared to be a hair band with makeup. They went on to massive success, which validates that the decision was correct for that particular collaboration - the fit wasn't right.
Great creative work can exist without commercial success, and this may be more common than the reverse. Commercial breakthrough depends on many factors beyond talent, including timing and circumstances outside the artist's control. Some exceptionally talented artists never achieve commercial success, possibly because it simply isn't part of their life path.
Jay-Z's writing process differed from other rappers who spent considerable time writing down lyrics. When presented with the beat for "99 Problems," he sat in the back of the room while the beat looped repeatedly. After 20-30 minutes of silent listening and occasional mumbling, he announced he had it, went into the booth, and recorded the entire first verse from memory without any written lyrics.
He recorded multiple takes where the words remained identical but the cadence varied - similar to how a saxophone solo maintains the same melody but changes emphasis and phrasing with each performance. After listening to the takes, he selected the second one as best, then repeated the process for the next verse.
There is no single correct creative process. What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another. Advice based on someone else's successful method may not apply because it reflects their story, not yours. The danger lies in following prescribed methods simply because they worked for someone else.
To discover authentic direction, immerse deeply in the relevant medium and listen to internal guidance. There may not be one right answer, or even a universally correct answer. The goal is finding what feels right for you personally after considering input from multiple sources, including conflicting perspectives.
This requires doing enough research and internal processing to reach a point of clarity where you know what the right answer is for you. When you don't have this clarity, more exploration and consideration is needed.
Parents and external sources often influence what people believe they want. After moving away to college, it took approximately a year to distinguish between personal desires and inherited expectations. Many people express goals that, upon deeper questioning, reveal no authentic foundation - they're simply repeating messages from Instagram, parents, or other external sources.
Practices like meditation help ground people in their authentic selves. Therapy can serve the same purpose for some individuals. The process requires ongoing work - there are no quick fixes. Initial therapy sessions may involve not knowing how to articulate feelings or access inner states, but this skill develops through repetition over time.
The difference between not knowing oneself and being grounded involves the ability to clearly articulate feelings and perspectives. While happiness existed both before and after this development, the current state involves a "knowingness" - an internal clarity about how one feels and sees things.
Happiness isn't necessarily the goal, though it's preferable to unhappiness. Peace may be the more accurate aspiration - a state of resting comfortably regardless of external circumstances. Even positive emotional highs can be followed by lows, possibly due to chemical processes in the brain.
Kanye's defining characteristic is complete fearlessness in art and life. This fearlessness enables taking significant risks that, when successful, produce exceptional results. The risk and the achievement are inseparable - greatness emerges through the willingness to walk the tightrope rather than produce ordinary work.
Normal and average outcomes aren't worth aspiring to when the goal is creating the most beautiful expression possible. This requires operating at the edge where failure remains possible.
Everyone has potential to be the greatest version of themselves. Greatness is not defined by comparison to others but by how brightly one's own light shines in their chosen pursuit. Not everyone is cut out for greatness because it comes with a cost and requires walking tight ropes.
The list of artists Rick has worked with are ordinary people who made a decision. Some had particular gifts while others were ordinary and cultivated a gift. Eminem exemplifies this through his obsessive dedication to always writing. He sits with a notepad writing all day and all night because he wants to be the best he can possibly be. 99% of his writing no one will ever see - it's practice.
Eminem is always in training. Like athletes who train in the offseason versus those who don't, the ones who train continuously are usually better and have longer careers. The dedication to constant improvement is what makes him who he is.
Johnny Cash fundamentally changed Rick through his humility, quietness, and intelligence. Cash wouldn't offer much unless drawn out, but knew about everything and had incredible points of view. He was a beautiful spiritual person who didn't have a need to let others know what was going on inside. Spending time with him was inspiring and improved Rick's life.
Tom Petty represented the ultimate craftsman, embodying what Paul McCartney brought to the Beatles - someone who could play anything, saw all ways around music, and knew how to make it. He combined the raw nerve and soul-showing ability of John Lennon with Paul's craftsmanship, plus being a great songwriter. Working with him taught Rick tremendously because he was an established, brilliant studio recording artist at a time when Rick had only worked with new artists.
One key lesson from Tom Petty was that everything always had to be in time and in tune. Every word of vocals must be understandable - if you can't understand it, it loses something in translation. Petty would work forever on something until it was right, never wanting it to be done. The album "Wildflowers" took over 2 years to complete. This taught Rick about patience, not procrastination.
Real procrastinators delay putting work into the world out of fear. The longer you wait, the harder it gets because the pressure builds that it can never live up to expectations. Perfectionists delay for different reasons - not fear-based but about getting it right. The distinction is that perfectionism has no procrastination in it.
Adele is like a myth - everything she does is great. When she sings, everything stops. She can sing a song 30 times in a row and it will be great each time. Unlike some singers who piece together takes, she delivers consistently. She writes her own songs, making her more like a 1970s singer-songwriter throwback rather than manufactured pop. This personal quality can be felt in her songs.
The main idea is to not listen to what anyone tells you. Be true to yourself, work hard, never give up, don't quit, and keep going. Don't put undue pressure on your art. Find a way to live that doesn't put pressure on your art so you can be totally free in making the dream version. Hopefully at some point the dream version takes over and becomes your whole life, not just your passion.
The Jay-Z documentary was made because Jay-Z is thought of today as an incredible businessman, billionaire, behind-the-scenes genius, married to a famous singer. Most people don't first think of him as a poet. Even people who like Jay-Z might not know the depth of his writing. The lyrics are intricate and difficult - astounding what he does. The goal was shedding light on the poet, the lyricist, the artistry of Jay-Z.
When Rick shared the documentary idea with Jay-Z, he said he liked it but wouldn't say yes because if he said yes they'd make it and he didn't know. A year passed without discussion. A friend advised Rick to call and ask directly. After 6-8 months of feeling uncomfortable, they eventually spoke and Jay-Z said "Yeah, let's do it."
The documentary abandoned traditional shooting rules. The black and white color grading and unusual angles created the feeling of spying on a personal conversation. In all years of seeing Jay-Z interviews, he's never been like he appears in this documentary. This shows who he really is - a real intimate view into someone so great.
The book "The Creative Act" contains 78 chapters or areas of thought. Originally there were 63 areas of thought, then grew to 83 or 84. Rick wanted it to be 78 to relate to tarot cards, which also have 78 cards. He considers certain numbers good numbers - 78, 108, 144. After working on sections independently and putting them in order, they discovered there were exactly 78 sections the next day.
Rick finds phone calls difficult as he almost never makes them and isn't a phone person. He feels there aren't many outstanding apologies to make. For a thank you call, he would call his wife Moodielle to thank her for being in his life, or his child to thank them for bringing so much light into his life.
Rick and his wife travel everywhere together as a pack and have never been apart except for maybe three nights in 15 years. Being a father is totally different and beautiful. He gets to see the world through his child's excitement, which reminds him of things he was excited about as a child. There's a real wisdom in children that's baffling.
Children haven't yet been told what they can and can't do, how the world works. They look at things with wonder - the perspective of a great artist. Great artists walk around in wonder and awe of things that seem ordinary to everyone else. The world is filled with incredible beauty that's breathtaking. People are amazing and interesting if you slow down and really listen.
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