The Craziest Prenup A Divorce Attorney Has Ever Seen
In a Nutshell
The most extreme prenup clause required $50,000 deducted from alimony for every 10 pounds gained after marriage. Modern prenups increasingly include specific monthly allowances for personal expenses like cosmetics, reflecting women's growing demands in negotiations. The underlying principle is mutual financial protection since every marriage ends in either death or divorce.
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The most bizarre and effective stipulation encountered was a weight-based penalty: for every 10 pounds gained after marriage, $50,000 would be deducted from alimony. This creates a dramatic financial consequence where gaining 50 pounds results in a $250,000 loss.
A hypothetical scenario was posed: if gaining 10 pounds granted access to new sexual experiences, how much weight would one allow their partner to gain? The response emphasized that the partner should remain healthy and happy. One participant shared a past experience of deliberately feeding a partner butter to explore weight gain, referencing the concept of an "800 pound wife."
The reverse scenario was also considered: if losing 5 pounds revealed something new to discover, how thin would one allow their partner to become? The consensus maintained that the partner must remain happy and healthy, with a limit against excessive thinness where "bones sticking out" becomes visible.
Preferences were expressed for healthy, slightly plump women rather than excessively thin ones. The term "Rubenesque" was discussed in relation to Ruben Studdard from American Idol, noting that the word refers to the style of fat little angels in Renaissance paintings.
The term "pre-marital surname" was explained as the surname written on divorce papers, referring to the name used before marriage.
Women are often told they "deserve a lot," and this mindset appears during prenuptial negotiations, particularly when appearing before female judges. The speaker expressed reluctance to use "Lady Your Honor" in court to avoid causing trouble.
A viral video was discussed showing a woman carrying children, food, drinks, and a diaper bag while managing multiple tasks simultaneously, including charging her phone. The man was described as a "modern Kevin Federline," and the scene was noted as representative of situations observed during air travel where women manage all the baby-related items.
The speaker was taught to give up seats to women or older individuals on public transportation. Two polarized reactions typically occur: either "What? No" with annoyance, or "Oh, yeah" with emotional gratitude. The issue shows no middle ground in public responses.
Young women increasingly present lists of demands during prenuptial negotiations, including monthly budgets for personal expenses such as cosmetics. The speaker clarified that women are typically not the ones offering prenuptial agreements due to economic disparities, with men usually having more wealth among clients.
The philosophy underlying successful prenuptial agreements centers on mutual protection: "I want to protect your heart, even from my hand." The speaker noted that every marriage ends either in death or separation, and statistically separation is more likely. The question becomes what each party needs to feel safe and protected from financial exploitation.
Strange demands observed include specific monthly budgets for cosmetics and personal expenses. A hypothetical question was raised about whether demands could include compensation based on penile size changes with aging, though this was presented as speculation rather than an actual observed case.
The medical term "buried penile syndrome" was explained as a condition where excess fat covers the penis, making it less visible. The speaker noted that approximately 5% of American men cannot see their penis completely, referencing the animated character Peter Griffin as an example of someone whose anatomy is always partially obscured.
A friend was mentioned who takes photographs holding a 175-milliliter Diet Coke can in a way that obscures its actual size, demonstrating manipulation of visual perception regarding penis size comparisons.
Prenuptial agreements originated in Germany in 1497, though they have been effectively enforced since the 1960s. They were not popular among the general public until approximately 20 years ago. The rise in popularity correlates with increasing divorce rates rather than changes in women's legal status.
In 1890 England, only five divorces occurred throughout the entire year across the whole country. This extremely low rate meant there was little need for protective agreements when divorce was statistically negligible.
The divorce rate among Navy SEALs has exceeded 100%, which is possible because the same individuals may marry and divorce multiple times, inflating the statistics. This demonstrates how divorce rates can be calculated per capita versus by number of marriages, leading to misleading figures.
Many couples remain together unhappily without divorcing due to financial concerns about dividing assets. Others physically separate without legal paperwork, described as an "Irish goodbye" or "Irish divorce" - leaving to buy milk and never returning.
There is a responsibility to communicate when a partner's weight gain affects attraction, though the approach requires strategy. The issue should be addressed incrementally rather than waiting until 50 pounds have been gained. The key is mentioning changes as they occur rather than allowing gradual shifts to go unaddressed.
Relationships require ongoing communication about changes in sexual frequency, desires, and physical attraction. The difference between planned and spontaneous relationships lies in the willingness to discuss issues directly rather than allowing problems to accumulate. Changes should be addressed as they happen, not after significant time has passed.
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